Tommygunn1972 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I am in scratch building awe at this! i love how you have combined so many techniques. Cant wait to see it finished. Top Job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-fever Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 This is awesome, so good to see "good-olde-scratchbuilding". Really cool to see you incorporate 3D printed parts with kit-bashing! Are you printing with HIPS filament? If so, why not use ABS? I am inspired, thanks for this! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Thanks! I guess I could have used ABS, but I thought sticking with the same material throughout the build would be better. The plastic card and tubes are HIPS, as are the model kit parts. (HIPS stands for High Impact Polystyrene). The Tamiya cement that I'm using works amazingly well with the filament and it sands beautifully. Sometimes when you glue materials together that have different coefficients of thermal expansion, gaps and seams will show up at the joints down the road. Granted the CTE mismatch between ABS and HIPS is probably negligible, compared with, say, aluminum and oak. As for combining 3D printed polystyrene with kit-bashing and scratch building, I'm really starting to see the possibilities that it holds. Filament deposition printing can't deliver the detail demanded by scale modellers, but it excels at complex forms that would be very difficult to build in any other way. Kit parts can then be used to add some of that missing detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-fever Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) I was wondering about HIPS, since it seems that the 3d printing community uses it mostly for support material. However for model making, Styrene and ABS are great. IMHO styrene to ABS will work fine most of the time with a good welded bond, never the less I agree with you. I have printed plenty of ABS, PLA, some Nylon and Flexible materials, so another solution might be resin DLP? Found bits and greebles + kit bashing might be so much faster and easier while using plastics over resin. With my kids, it seems to inspire them too. Cheers JH Edited October 27, 2018 by j-fever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 I really like HIPS. But you're right, not many folks are printing it as a primary material. There's been very little guidance online that I could find to help me through some of the difficulties that I've had. I have a couple of parts on the ship that were printed in resin on a Formlabs printer we have at work. I was able to get the guy who runs it to piggyback my parts in with another job he was doing. Unfortunately, I don't think I can make a habit of that. I may get a DLP printer at some point. I think prices will really start coming down in the next few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 That's looking so great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-fever Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Photon said: I really like HIPS. But you're right, not many folks are printing it as a primary material. There's been very little guidance online that I could find to help me through some of the difficulties that I've had. I have a couple of parts on the ship that were printed in resin on a Formlabs printer we have at work. I was able to get the guy who runs it to piggyback my parts in with another job he was doing. Unfortunately, I don't think I can make a habit of that. I may get a DLP printer at some point. I think prices will really start coming down in the next few years. Yeh I have encounter similar issues, that is why I asked. heh heh. The Form 2 is awesome, I have a Wanhau D7 that I have yet to find time to use, most of the time I am using my Taz6 FDM. Keep up the great work! JH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Cool Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I have an Anycubic Photon DLP and it is incredible. The price was only around £350 and the quality it produces is insane. This is a 1:350 DS9 runabout I printed as a test. The model is 65mm long. And brush painted. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 That's really amazing. It's crazy how nice it prints for so little money. Is the resin very expensive? I think the Anycubic Photon stands alone at the moment. I don't think it really has any competition at that price. I'm pretty sure I'll be getting one. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Cool Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) No problem. The resin is quite pricey but you don't use much unless printing large solid objects. Mostly you can model the parts as shells though to save resin. I currently use Wanhao resin as its easier to get hold of but the anycubic resin makes a much better job. The runabout was anycubic. The Wanhao needs a lot of practice prints to work out what layer thickness and exposure time is needed for the model that you are doing. Still worth it though as it means that you can model things that are truely custom parts, or replicate parts that you just cant get hold of for whatever reason. This was it off the printer. Edited November 18, 2018 by Father Cool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo52 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 "After fighting with print bed leveling for weeks, I made a removable mount that would allow attaching a dial indicator." That is an awesome solution! Headed to the garage now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Father Cool said: The Wanhao needs a lot of practice prints to work out what layer thickness and exposure time is needed for the model that you are doing Ah, I didn't realize there was much model specific tweaking that had to be done. Very good to know. Do the transparent resins cure better than the opaque ones (i.e. Better UV transmission)? Also, do you do a post-cure? I know some people use those UV nail drying lamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Bravo52 said: "After fighting with print bed leveling for weeks, I made a removable mount that would allow attaching a dial indicator." That is an awesome solution! Headed to the garage now... Glad to help. Unfortunately, the dial indicator cost more than the printer. I borrow that one from work when I need to level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Cool Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 47 minutes ago, Photon said: Ah, I didn't realize there was much model specific tweaking that had to be done. Very good to know. Do the transparent resins cure better than the opaque ones (i.e. Better UV transmission)? Also, do you do a post-cure? I know some people use those UV nail drying lamps. Well the Wanhao resin I use is black but it is transparent at the layer thickness so cures well. I usually give the Wanhao a tad longer cure between layers though. I do post cure yes. I use a UV nail lamp but you need to replace the bulbs with 405nm ones as the ones that come with them are no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 A few touch ups are needed here and there and maybe a final weathering pass, but I'm going to call this finished. I used Vallejo acrylics for the base colors and weathered with cheap student grade oil paints and odorless thinners. Thanks everybody for following along. I really appreciate all the encouragement. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Brilliant. Unorthodox. Stunning. Love it. Need I say more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Smeg Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Loved watching this thread from day 1. The results are superb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 Thanks fellas, I really appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Very Chris Foss. Love it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpopandchips Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Absolutely stunning, fantastic in every way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMK Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Wow! @Photon - lovely, lovely work! Wish I’d been following from the start. Ten points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just found this and I'm glad I did. My Gob is well and truly smacked. Awesome result. Thanks for revealing PS test tubes to me as well. I've been stalled on a project and they will do what I need perfectly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan R Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 That is amazing! It may inspire me to have a go at scratching…. Cheers, Alan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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