ReccePhreak Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) I just picked up the Airfix 1/48 P-40B at our local Hobby Lobby, with my 40% off coupon. I bought the Xtradecals sheet X48162 from Hannants, and plan to do the Tomahawk Mk,IIA AH893 'RM.D'. I also ordered the Eduard P-40B seatbelts set 49787 at the same time, but I think now that these might be the wrong type of seatbelts for an RAF bird. Is that a correct assumption? Do I need a Sutton Harness? Also, which seat in the kit should I use, the round top one or the square top one? I may have to order one of the Ultracast seats, if that would work better, although I am not looking forward to the added costs. Maybe I should just put the kit's pilot in the model? Larry Edited October 20, 2018 by ReccePhreak More questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 30 minutes ago, ReccePhreak said: I just picked up the Airfix 1/48 P-40B at our local Hobby Lobby, with my 40% off coupon. I want to use the camera in the kit, so I was wondering if any of the markings on Xtradecals sheets X48162 or X48163 include markings for a camera-equipped bird? The instruction scans on Hannants aren't clear enough to make out that detail. Larry HI Larry the RAF boxing has markings that use the camera AFAIK, the RM-D option, you might want to ask if someone has those spare https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1025407-airfix-a05133-curtiss-tomahawk-mk-iib RM-D is on this sheet https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X48162 Also, I think some of the schemes on the Xtradecal sheet are from the Ducimus guide https://boxartden.com/reference/gallery/index.php/Modeling-References/Camoflage-Markings/12-Tomahawk-Airacobra these are some 26 sq pics, and you can see the camera ports, so I'd just ask if some has the RM-D decals leftover HTH T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Troy Smith said: HI Larry the RAF boxing has markings that use the camera AFAIK, the RM-D option, you might want to ask if someone has those spare https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1025407-airfix-a05133-curtiss-tomahawk-mk-iib RM-D is on this sheet https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X48162 Also, I think some of the schemes on the Xtradecal sheet are from the Ducimus guide https://boxartden.com/reference/gallery/index.php/Modeling-References/Camoflage-Markings/12-Tomahawk-Airacobra these are some 26 sq pics, and you can see the camera ports, so I'd just ask if some has the RM-D decals leftover HTH T Thanks Troy, for the very informative reply. I think my first option will be to try to get the RM-D from the Tomahawk kit, especially since I wouldn't have any use for all the extra decals on the Xtradecal sheet. Larry Edited August 11, 2018 by ReccePhreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 13 hours ago, ReccePhreak said: Thanks Troy, for the very informative reply. I think my first option will be to try to get the RM-D from the Tomahawk kit, especially since I wouldn't have any use for all the extra decals on the Xtradecal sheet. Larry Hi Larry Got me thinking, there have been threads here on Army Co-operation Tomahawks before..... I was able to remember that @Dave Fleming posted some info (makes a google search easier "britmodeller tomahawk fleming camera" is what I used) this maybe of interest if you have not seen it before? from the photo link here are to a beta IWM site but it gives the photo reference numbers. And this will give Dave a notification, and he might have some additional info as well. HTH T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Thanks Troy, I had seen that recce Tomahawk photo before. This time I made sure to download it & save it. Love the detail of the camera mounting hardware & "black boxes". I would love to see a 1/32 Tomahawk kit, with all that detail incorporated in it. Have you seen the Colour Conundrum article entitled "US Equivalent Colours for the RAF 1938-1942 Part 2", in the August 2018 issue of Scale Aircraft Modelling? It has color profiles of the left, bottom & top of RM-D. It lists Vallejo paints for the paint scheme, but I will try to do it with Testors Model Master enamels. What is really interesting is the mismatched colors on the camera access panel, like it came from a different aircraft. I did put a Wanted post up for those decals on the Wanted Subforum here. Larry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 The wing that NEAM has shows colours not a million miles from standard RAF colours, after 40 years in the elements and an attempt at ‘restoration’ . There is a photo during recovery that hints tje brown areas were actually painted over in ‘mixed’ grey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Updated original post with more info and more questions. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I'm not a P-40 expert but I do know that RAF Tomahawks had Sutton harnesses fitted. HTH in a small way, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Smithy said: I'm not a P-40 expert but I do know that RAF Tomahawks had Sutton harnesses fitted. HTH in a small way, Tim Tim, Thanks for that, I think I have the seat belts sorted out. Now I just need verification if the plane I am doing would have had the rounded top seats or the square top seats. I found a set of Ultracast Curtiss P-40 seats in my stash (48037). They have the round seat top and the Sutton Harness and are said to be for the B-M variants. I am not sure if they are correct for my Curtiss Tomahawk IIa. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBBates Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 33 minutes ago, ReccePhreak said: Tim, Thanks for that, I think I have the seat belts sorted out. Now I just need verification if the plane I am doing would have had the rounded top seats or the square top seats. I found a set of Ultracast Curtiss P-40 seats in my stash (48037). They have the round seat top and the Sutton Harness and are said to be for the B-M variants. I am not sure if they are correct for my Curtiss Tomahawk IIa. Larry You want the squareback for a Tomahawk H-81 https://www.ultracast.ca/product-p/ult48257.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 hours ago, HBBates said: You want the squareback for a Tomahawk H-81 https://www.ultracast.ca/product-p/ult48257.htm Thanks for that confirmation. Considering that ordering just the seat would cost me over half what the whole kit cost, I think I will go with the kit seat, and the Eduard Sutton harnesses my friend gave me. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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