Airfix 1/48 P-40B questions (Updated)

[ReccePhreak]

I just picked up the Airfix 1/48 P-40B at our local Hobby Lobby, with my 40% off coupon.

I bought the Xtradecals sheet X48162 from Hannants, and plan to do the Tomahawk Mk,IIA AH893 'RM.D'. 

I also ordered the Eduard P-40B seatbelts set 49787 at the same time, but I think now that these might be the wrong type of seatbelts for an RAF bird. Is that a correct assumption? Do I need a Sutton Harness?

Also, which seat in the kit should I use, the round top one or the square top one? I may have to order one of the Ultracast seats, if that would work better, although I am not looking forward to the added costs.

Maybe I should just put the kit's pilot in the model?

 

Larry 

Edited October 20, 2018 by ReccePhreak
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[Troy Smith]

30 minutes ago, ReccePhreak said:

I just picked up the Airfix 1/48 P-40B at our local Hobby Lobby, with my 40% off coupon.

I want to use the camera in the kit, so I was wondering if any of the markings on Xtradecals sheets X48162 or X48163 include markings for a camera-equipped bird? The instruction scans on Hannants aren't clear enough to make out that detail.

 

Larry 

HI Larry

the RAF boxing has markings that use the camera AFAIK,  the RM-D option, you might want to ask if someone has those spare 

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1025407-airfix-a05133-curtiss-tomahawk-mk-iib

 

RM-D is on this sheet

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X48162

 

 

 

Also, I think some of the schemes on the Xtradecal sheet are from the Ducimus guide

https://boxartden.com/reference/gallery/index.php/Modeling-References/Camoflage-Markings/12-Tomahawk-Airacobra

these are some 26 sq pics, and you can see the camera ports,  so I'd just ask if some has the RM-D decals leftover  

 

HTH

T

[ReccePhreak]

2 hours ago, Troy Smith said:

HI Larry

the RAF boxing has markings that use the camera AFAIK,  the RM-D option, you might want to ask if someone has those spare 

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1025407-airfix-a05133-curtiss-tomahawk-mk-iib

 

RM-D is on this sheet

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X48162

 

Also, I think some of the schemes on the Xtradecal sheet are from the Ducimus guide

https://boxartden.com/reference/gallery/index.php/Modeling-References/Camoflage-Markings/12-Tomahawk-Airacobra

these are some 26 sq pics, and you can see the camera ports,  so I'd just ask if some has the RM-D decals leftover  

 

HTH

T

Thanks Troy, for the very informative reply. I think my first option will be to try to get the RM-D from the Tomahawk kit, especially since I wouldn't have any use for all the extra decals on the Xtradecal sheet.

 

Larry

Edited August 11, 2018 by ReccePhreak

[Troy Smith]

13 hours ago, ReccePhreak said:

Thanks Troy, for the very informative reply. I think my first option will be to try to get the RM-D from the Tomahawk kit, especially since I wouldn't have any use for all the extra decals on the Xtradecal sheet.

 

Larry

Hi Larry

Got me thinking, there have been threads here on Army Co-operation Tomahawks before..... I was able to remember that @Dave Fleming  posted some info (makes a google search easier "britmodeller tomahawk fleming camera" is what I used)

 

this maybe of interest if you have not seen it before? 

 

from

 

 

the photo link here are to a beta IWM site

but it gives the photo reference numbers.

 

And this will give Dave a notification, and he might have some additional info as well.

 

HTH

T

 

[ReccePhreak]

Thanks Troy,

 

I had seen that recce Tomahawk photo before. This time I made sure to download it & save it. Love the detail of the camera mounting hardware & "black boxes". I would love to see a 1/32 Tomahawk kit, with all that detail incorporated in it.

 

Have you seen the Colour Conundrum article entitled "US Equivalent Colours for the RAF 1938-1942 Part 2", in the August 2018 issue of Scale Aircraft Modelling? It has color profiles of the left, bottom & top of RM-D. It lists Vallejo paints for the paint scheme, but I will try to do it with Testors Model Master enamels. What is really interesting is the mismatched colors on the camera access panel, like it came from a different aircraft.

 

I did put a Wanted post up for those decals on the Wanted Subforum here.

 

Larry

[Dave Fleming]

The wing that NEAM has shows colours not a million miles from standard RAF colours, after 40 years in the elements and an attempt at ‘restoration’ . There is a photo during recovery that hints tje brown areas were actually painted over in ‘mixed’ grey

[ReccePhreak]

Updated original post with more info and more questions.

Larry

[Smithy]

I'm not a P-40 expert but I do know that RAF Tomahawks had Sutton harnesses fitted.

 

HTH in a small way,

 

Tim

[ReccePhreak]

9 hours ago, Smithy said:

I'm not a P-40 expert but I do know that RAF Tomahawks had Sutton harnesses fitted.

 

HTH in a small way,

 

Tim

Tim, 

 

Thanks for that, I think I have the seat belts sorted out.

Now I just need verification if the plane I am doing would have had the rounded top seats or the square top seats.

I found a set of Ultracast Curtiss P-40 seats in my stash (48037). They have the round seat top and the Sutton Harness and are said to be for the B-M variants.

I am not sure if they are correct for my Curtiss Tomahawk IIa. 

Larry 

[HBBates]

33 minutes ago, ReccePhreak said:

Tim, 

 

Thanks for that, I think I have the seat belts sorted out.

Now I just need verification if the plane I am doing would have had the rounded top seats or the square top seats.

I found a set of Ultracast Curtiss P-40 seats in my stash (48037). They have the round seat top and the Sutton Harness and are said to be for the B-M variants.

I am not sure if they are correct for my Curtiss Tomahawk IIa. 

Larry 

You want the squareback for a Tomahawk H-81

 https://www.ultracast.ca/product-p/ult48257.htm

[ReccePhreak]

4 hours ago, HBBates said:

You want the squareback for a Tomahawk H-81

 https://www.ultracast.ca/product-p/ult48257.htm

Thanks for that confirmation.

Considering that ordering just the seat would cost me over half what the whole kit cost, I think I will go with the kit seat, and the Eduard Sutton harnesses my friend gave me.

 

Larry