Uncle Dick Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Received the Xtradecal X72254 1/72 Dassault Mirage F.1B Part 2 Two seaters decals from Hannants and surprise, surprise all the Iranian roundels are not centred/out of register. What to do now? 1. Throw a Roundel Tantrum? 2. Send them back to Hannants from Australia with love? 3. Use them for target practise? 4. All of the above? Through them in the junk stash with all the Berna and Authentic Decals out of register (already quite a collection)? Seriously - what to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobski Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 If you haven't used any of them yet then I would get in touch with Hannants to return them for a refund. You might have to pay the postage, but better than either binning them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Contact Hannants via email and let them know your findings. Umcentered roundels should not be available for sale as they really are defective products. I think a new Decal sheet (at the very least just roundels) should be sent out to you free of charge. I once purchased a set of Hunter Black Arrows decals and the thin white roundel surrounds were off as well. I probably should have done something about it, but didn’t? Good luck.. Cheers.. Dave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 By preference (and comedy factor for those nearby), 1), but for your own sanity, the following: 14 minutes ago, Bobski said: If you haven't used any of them yet then I would get in touch with Hannants to return them for a refund. You might have to pay the postage, but better than either binning them. Roundel related tantrums rarely have positive results, but other than looking at your model cross-eyed for the rest of eternity, Bob's suggestion is best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Sometimes I’ve found this problem with “classic” kit decals. Options for me then (returning not being feasible): 1 raid the decal bank for something similar or an alternative valid for the airframe...or go whiffy? 2 ignore if not too bad, sometimes turning the roundels makes the out of register less obvious (ignore method also used when I incompetently place those separate decal centres) the shape of the surface underneath sometimes helps. 3 cut out the centre dot, paint the whole middle (eg the white on RAF roundels), then use the cut out centre dot exactly as for separately supplied dots. Hope this helps, sometimes I can’t decide if it’s better to ignore the out-of-register as my efforts in response may be equally out anyway due to my slight astigmatism! Or just photograph the model from her best side... cheers Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 If you do not want to send it back try the following providing you have the gear. Before you use the decal use a hole punch to remove the red centre. Then use a circle cutter to cut a solid white circle and centre it on the green outer circle. Place both on the model green first then the white circle. Then place and centre the red dot. A bit of work l know but it is up to you. Robert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 For some reason it is usually the yellow outline on RAF roundels that is offset. Not just kit sets but also on specialist roundel sets! In which case use a second transfer underneath, with the top one slightly offset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris57 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 From my dealings with Hannants, contact them and they'll probably just send you a replacement. cheers Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Fwiw, Hannants have been lax in not inspecting the decals received from the printer, is it still Microscale, before releasing them for sale? The issue should be between Hannants & printer, who've not been doing their QC checks either. The days of out of register decals should be long gone. Steve. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 21 hours ago, Uncle Dick said: Received the Xtradecal X72254 1/72 Dassault Mirage F.1B Part 2 Two seaters decals from Hannants and surprise, surprise all the Iranian roundels are not centred/out of register. What to do now? 1. Throw a Roundel Tantrum? 2. Send them back to Hannants from Australia with love? 3. Use them for target practise? 4. All of the above? Through them in the junk stash with all the Berna and Authentic Decals out of register (already quite a collection)? Seriously - what to do? As others have said, contact Hannants, email photos to prove the point. It's unlikely they will want return, they will see the problem by photo - and nobody is going to want to use those decals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dick Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) Thanks Lads - for all the suggestions, shall in the end contact Hannants! The sterling community that is Britmodeller certainly had a most calming effect on my mind after my "Roundel Tantrum" Edited July 29, 2018 by Uncle Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I'd just like to say that I had cause to contact Hannants about an issue with an Xtradecal sheet recently and they responded quickly and resolved the issue very promptly. Cheers, Mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dick Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the advice chaps, as a follow up this was Hannants reply following email with photos of the culprit roundels Quote Thank you for your email and sorry for the very late reply. Unfortunately some decals go like this as when they are printed they are put through several times for each colour. It is then hard for the decal sheet to be placed exactly as the first print, hence the problem caused. Sometimes all the decals are the same but I have checked what we have in stock and they one I will send to you should be fine. Your replacement will leave today. Edited October 16, 2018 by Uncle Dick 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Well done you For dealing with it properly And Hannants For dealing with it properly I have found whenever necessary that a nice letter gets nice results usually 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoran Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Unless you would by a kit with short shot parts, or a car with a missing windscreen, don't buy decals that are out of register. The job of a decal printer and a decal company is to sell products that are correctly printed. If they're selling products that aren't, then they're defrauding you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivand Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) Mind you, that's what Heller did for some decades. They were thorough, though, as I've seen a set of instructions in which they actually managed to make the roundels as off centre as the decals! This case, on the contrary, has been handled as it should between gentlemen. Edited October 28, 2018 by ivand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaddad Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I had a similar situation with a set of Print Scale MiG 15 decals, the North Korean decals were out of register. A quick phone call to Hannants resolved the situation. They sent me a new sheet & I sent the defective one back. Hannants customer service is, in my humble opinion, second to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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