Tim1981 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) Hi, I have made a start with building the Italeri Hurricane Trop and was after some help with using a wash at the end of the build to add some depth and weathering to the model. I was thinking of using a light wash over the whole model. I am using tamiya acrylics for the camouflage painting. My last build I left clean looking but I don't think this would look right on a Hurricane. Is there a wash you could recommend please. Any help is much appreciated. Edited July 27, 2018 by Tim1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventura11 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Hello Tim, I use Humbrol Washes . Italeri is releasing a new set of 6 acrylic washes, it may be interesting. Probably I will buy it, price is interesting and it is not enamel based. Kind regards, Paolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Tim1981 said: Hi, I have made a start with building the Italeri Hurricane Trop and was after some help with using a wash at the end of the build to add some depth and weathering to the model. I was thinking of using a light wash over the whole model. I am using tamiya acrylics for the camouflage painting. My last build I left clean looking but I don't think this would look right on a Hurricane. Is there a wash you could recommend please. Any help is much appreciated. Hi Tim Don't assume that a weathering wash is the answer. There are trends in modelling, and it's easy to see many models based on other models, and assumptions. This might help Hurricane 1944. by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr Note the very distinctive exhaust stain (which would get cleaned off) More Hurricane colour here https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=8270787@N07&q=hurricane You might want to say what plane you are modelling, as there are probably photos about of it. One really specific bit of Hurricane staining is oil leaking from the rear of the engine bay, and then being blown by the airstream over the UC doors, start of stain here Leading to this You get heavier examples, but the cause and pattern is not usually explained. There are loads of photos here https://www.asisbiz.com/Hurricane.html Note, these are by unit, have a look for your subject. The Italeri kit can be greatly improved by replacing the spinner, though you may need to scrape the nose down to fit. Ask if you want more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim1981 Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 Thanks for all the info. The aircraft is RAF 74 Squadron, Malta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tim1981 said: Thanks for all the info. The aircraft is RAF 74 Squadron, Malta. Is that unit correct Tim? Although I haven’t checked my references it doesn’t seem right to me. Cheers.. Dave (always happy to be corrected - I quite like the taste of hats!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Italeri say 74sq, but 74 was not on Malta. The above is Z4189 There is a comment here that Z4189 was not on Malta either https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234920183-hurricane-pair/ Mentioning @Graham Boak, who may know more. There is this http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/commonwealth_fell.htm Quote In late 1941, he served in the composite RN Fighter Squadron, which operated alongside the RAF in the Western Desert. At 16:40 on 23 November, Hurricanes from RNFS intercepted reported Italian Fiat G.50s 20 miles south-east of Gubi. Sub Lieutenant Fell (Hurricane I Z4189) claimed a probable while Sub Lieutenant J. F. Kee claimed a damaged. This is the Italeri profile Which shows a scheme of Dark Green and Middlestone, over Sky Blue. Given the lack of contrast with the upper colours, I suggest this was Dark Green and Dark Earth, The actual plane does not look that weathered either. Note, Italeri are not very good at research, and as a Hurricane buff, their kits are my "where's Wally" kits, the harder you look, the more glitches you find.... Anyway, hope this helps? Cheers T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Beema Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 @Beard built SLt M Fells Hurricane Z4932 in this thread - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 47 minutes ago, Grey Beema said: @Beard built SLt M Fells Hurricane Z4932 in this thread - Ok neat, but not the same aircraft. I posted a shot of Z4189. Fell came up in searching for Z4189, I just added in the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I use ground pastels (not oil based ones) of a suitable shade pertinent to the aircraft colours. Applied as appropriate with a battered old micro brush then brushed in the direction of airflow over the aircraft. That's my basic method for highlighting panel lines. Antics in Cornwall Street has Micro brushes and pastels can be had from Hobbycraft on Exeter Rd outbound from Charles Cross roundabout. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim1981 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 Thanks a lot for all the help again. Can I get away with doing this model in Battle of Britian colours with the decal markings provided. I was never really too keen on painting the tropical camouflage but this was the only kit version available. Cheers Darby, I have been using hobby craft and Antics ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Tim1981 said: Thanks a lot for all the help again. Can I get away with doing this model in Battle of Britian colours with the decal markings provided. I was never really too keen on painting the tropical camouflage but this was the only kit version available. Not easily. AFAIK, the kit only contains the De Havilland Hurricane spinner and most BoB schemes are for schemes using a Spitfire Rotol See here if this is gobbledegook https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234980181-hawker-hurricane-propellers-and-spinners-a-modellers-guide/ I should be able to find some spare BoB code decals and a Airfix Rotol spinner if you want to go that way, though you will need to scrape back the nose ring for it to fit. PM or email if you do. HTH T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim1981 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 Unfortunately I have run into this problem with the wing fit : I may be able to reshape the wing to fit and carry on with the build but it does seem to be miles out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tim1981 said: Unfortunately I have run into this problem with the wing fit : I may be able to reshape the wing to fit and carry on with the build but it does seem to be miles out ! You might want to try Italeri and ask for a replacement? The wing looks to be for a IIA, not a IIC, interestingly Italeri have not done a IIA.... All you need to do is from the front edge to fit, though the carb intake was further back on the Mk.II ... Oh.. inevitably I've posted in that thread... Cheers T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim1981 Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) Thanks Troy, I did see a reply post from the author saying he waited weeks for a replacement and they sent another identical wing which does not fit. I have reshaped the wing and it fits well now. I know its not going to be authentic but I have learned my lesson and will stick with other brands although I was pleased with my Italeri Mustang. Edited July 28, 2018 by Tim1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 28/7/2018 at 22:01, Tim1981 said: I have learned my lesson and will stick with other brands although I was pleased with my Italeri Mustang. if that's the 1/48th P-51D it's a reboxed Hasegawa kit. There are a fair few 'Italeri' kits that are reboxes of Hasegawa (Hawker Typhoon, P-51D) and Academy kits, some of those being originally Accurate Miniatures, the Italeri Il-2 Shtumovik and Avenger are of this heritage. You can usually track down a kits origin quite easily, and if not, then just ask. Did you want me to look for some Battle of Britain decals? cheers T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim1981 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 It was this version : Thanks for the offer but I am going to go with the SAAF John Frost camouflage. Hopefully it will turn out ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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