keefr22 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Scarlet said: a glaring spelling mistake. The co-driver gas been renamed Angel Harris! Looks like it's catching.....!! Sorry, on, gone... Keith PS sounds like a great kit. Must resist, must resist, mus......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 On 8/4/2020 at 10:42 AM, keefr22 said: Looks like it's catching.....!! Sorry, on, gone... Keith PS sounds like a great kit. Must resist, must resist, mus......... Sorted.😉😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanali Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Just got this kit, looking forward to building it, not sure what they will do about the error. I'm hoping someone will produce a conversion decal set for Tony Pond's car anyway which would solve the problem for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Noble Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Deanali said: Just got this kit, looking forward to building it, not sure what they will do about the error. I'm hoping someone will produce a conversion decal set for Tony Pond's car anyway which would solve the problem for me! There's a sheet announced by Decalcas which is for the Metro 6R4 as raced at the Lombard Rac in 1985. It's for Tony Pond/Rob Arthur.. https://www.spotmodel.com/product_info.php?products_id=53351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanali Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Thanks, I did see that, but hoping for a computervision version, especially as I already have the paint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Noble Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deanali said: Thanks, I did see that, but hoping for a computervision version, especially as I already have the paint! Is it not Computervision? I'm sure they ran those logo's at the '85 Rac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Noble Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steve Noble said: Is it not Computervision? I'm sure they ran those logo's at the '85 Rac? Yes, just checked on YouTube, they definitely had Computervision logo's on the '85 Rac rally.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I noticed on a youtube unboxing that the kit appears to have tarmac wheels - I take it there's no tamac tyres in it though? Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanali Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) "Yes, just checked on YouTube, they definitely had Computervision logo's on the '85 Rac rally.." Ooh, Yes, you're right, now I'll have to check the differences between the two! Edited August 10, 2020 by Deanali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Noble Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, keefr22 said: I noticed on a youtube unboxing that the kit appears to have tarmac wheels - I take it there's no tamac tyres in it though? Keith Which one are you referring to Keith? The Jimmy McRae Rothmans or the Computervision version? I think that both types of wheel are included in both kits. But I think they're both gravel wheels? The tarmac wheels are larger in diameter and can also carry ventilators. They do some at Spotmodel (link below) that are tarmac rims, but I think they have slick tyres? I'm sure they would have been treaded, especially on the Rac Rally? https://www.spotmodel.com/product_info.php?products_id=54093 Edited August 10, 2020 by Steve Noble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanali Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Yes both wheels with each kit as they are on the same sprue. I have taken a picture with the tyres fitted, but can't find a way to link it from Onedrive Edited August 10, 2020 by Deanali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Noble Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Deanali said: Yes both wheels with each kit as they are on the same sprue. I have taken a picture with the tyres fitted, but can't find a way to link it from Onedrive I have a feeling the kit rims, both types, are gravel type? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Steve Noble said: I'm sure they would have been treaded, especially on the Rac Rally? Most certainly they would - & IIRC they wouldn't usually use tarmac tyres on the few non gravel (usually stately home) stages as they were usually wet and muddy anyway! I'd seen the Rennaissance set, and tbh I'm still trying to find out if pure slicks were ever allowed on European events - they never were in the UK. As to the kit wheels, I thought the five spoke ones in the kit looked a bit bigger than the multi spoke ones, so thought they might have been tarmac spec. Keith edit -" they never were in the UK." - I should have said except for single venue stage rallies where there are no public road link sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, keefr22 said: Most certainly they would - & IIRC they wouldn't usually use tarmac tyres on the few non gravel (usually stately home) stages as they were usually wet and muddy anyway! I'd seen the Rennaissance set, and tbh I'm still trying to find out if pure slicks were ever allowed on European events - they never were in the UK. Tour de Corse saw slicks used in these days. Not sure of anything specifically with the Metros though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bengalensis said: Tour de Corse saw slicks used in these days Were they pure slicks or hand cut slicks with basic tread do you know? Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, keefr22 said: Were they pure slicks or hand cut slicks with basic tread do you know? Pure slicks. I have several photos of different Audi quattro versions and Renault 5 Turbos from Corsica on slicks. Of other events I know very little though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bengalensis said: Pure slicks. I have several photos of different Audi quattro versions and Renault 5 Turbos from Corsica on slicks. Of other events I know very little though. Excellent, many thanks for the info.! 👍 Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Noble Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, keefr22 said: As to the kit wheels, I thought the five spoke ones in the kit looked a bit bigger than the multi spoke ones, so thought they might have been tarmac spec. Keith I thought so too, but I've watched quite a few videos from the '86 Rac Rally, especially Jimmy McRae's car and he seems to use those 5 spoke rims on most stages, gravel or tarmac/stately homes. I've found 1 picture on the web that shows his car on the same wheel rims that Renaissance are offering, not sure which stage it's from though.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Noble Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 In the case of Jimmy McRae's car I've been trying to find out if it ever ran with the full Rothman's Rally livery on any event? I know 100% that it didn't use the Rothman's on the Rac Rally as they weren't allowed. But can't find any photo's of them on the British Championship either. I may go against the grain and just apply them on mine when I build it, they just look so much better than the 'Racing' logo that they used in the Rac Rally. Technically it will be wrong, but a little artistic license is allowed sometimes 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 57 minutes ago, Steve Noble said: But can't find any photo's of them on the British Championship either. Pretty sure you won't tbh Paul, I think it was a UK Government blanket ban on all sports tobacco advertising - I recall going to a ''Rothmans" rally evening at a local motor club and everything had been re-branded as Rallying or Racing....!! K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Noble Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, keefr22 said: Pretty sure you won't tbh Paul, I think it was a UK Government blanket ban on all sports tobacco advertising - I recall going to a ''Rothmans" rally evening at a local motor club and everything had been re-branded as Rallying or Racing....!! K Oh well, I'll have to model the 'what if' Metro then.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flintstone Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) The Prodrive 6R4s did indeed have the Rothmans logos on them at the start of the British Rally Championship in 1986, but the BBC insisted it would not show the tv highlights if the car did not remove the branding. They even provided a highlights show when McRae won and they did not include any images of the car at all. After a couple of rounds the Rothmans was replaced by Racing. It didn't stop the BBC from showing snooker sponsored by Embassy at the same time though! Regarding the wheels and tyres. there were two main types of wheel used, but there are many tyre options from ice tyres with studs through to pure slicks and everything in between. There should be many images of events like the Circuit of Ireland, Manx, Welsh and RAC events to find inspiration. Edited August 10, 2020 by Flintstone spelling error 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Some nice detail pics of a 'restored to as new "recreation"' Metro here; https://www.motorsportauctions.com/category/329/Historic-Rally-Cars/listings/41453/MG-METRO-6R4.html K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanali Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) Emailed Belkits about the misprinted decals, glad I did, they didn't know! Edited August 19, 2020 by Deanali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Noble Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 19/08/2020 at 19:49, Deanali said: Emailed Belkits about the misprinted decals, glad I did, they didn't know! Wonder if they will correct the error by sending out a small sheet to people who already bought the kit and fixing the error on new kits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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