TheBaron Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Procopius said: Why not order a copy? Have you any idea about the cost-per-page basis for A.P. documents based on your own researches PC? I've had a look at their 'how-to-apply' section and for the amount of data I'm after in various non-digitized maintenance manuals it sounds potentially expensive... 14 hours ago, Pete in Lincs said: Start with a Walrus and then go with the floe. 😆 Are you available for weddings and public speaking engagements Pete? I suspect you are.... 14 hours ago, Pete in Lincs said: They went across to a 'specialist rubber factory', asking to see the MD who turned out to be Female. After an embarrassed silence on their part they plucked up the courage to impart their idea. The Lady matter of factly produced samples and asked 'what size?'. problem solved. Please tell me that the enquirer was a Pilot Officer Finbarr Saunders. It would be lovely if just once in life my immature brain matched with historical reality.... 15 hours ago, Pete in Lincs said: I did wonder what an Ansons' service ceiling was though. My copy of the PNs has pages missing Pete but I think I read somewhere that no higher than 19,000 ft. for a Mk.1. 15 hours ago, Hamden said: Your oxygen bottle rack is a superb piece of engineering and complements the rest of your interior structure engineering Thanks Roger. It is a potentially fictitious detail for this particular mission as from the manual there seems to have been a plethora of different items that could be loaded, such as a 6 gallon water tank, sleeping bags and rations for tropical operations and so forth. 14 hours ago, bigbadbadge said: I have tried photographing the image but is a lined drawing Nice one Chris. You are indeed correct to have brought this detail up - I completely missed it yet it's in plain sight in so many shots like this that you can't avoid seeing it everywhere now: What's wrong with my eyes eh! 13 hours ago, bbudde said: Mmhhh? This or just bacon and eggs? 'I'll have the Erotic Breakfast No.3 please Vera, and a mug of tea....' 13 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Spare oxygen bottles? A likely story! I know a wine rack when I see one, even in 1/72. 13 hours ago, giemme said: My exact same thought! The contents of which were presumably referred in Pilot's Notes as a 'premiere air-cru'..... 🍷 13 hours ago, Martian Hale said: Rumbled again Tony! Ooo-errr. And you an old customs sweat. Stick the bracelets on guv, I'll come quietly..... 13 hours ago, Spookytooth said: Wait to you see him build the Cocktail cabinet, best veneer used... Now I know what that door in the base of the radio-operator's seat was for! (And that Bigsworth board is really just a card table for Bridge....) 11 hours ago, keefr22 said: I dread to think what search parameters you put into google to find that....!! I just typed 'Britmodeller' into Google and that was the first image that came up Keith! Presumably it shows one of the fruitier coves who lurk around the SciFi section? 11 hours ago, corsaircorp said: Do you fear the Garda ?? Not in this neck of the woods CC. Two of them have to stand next to each other in order to form a single thought. 8 hours ago, CedB said: Great stuff Tony Thanks Ced. Hope the puppy sitting went ok? 7 hours ago, Andwil said: Took a few photos on my phone and thought you may be interested in these Tony: Superb AW - thanks so much for posting that as it's by far the clearest shot I've seen of the essential structure of the 'dome'. 7 hours ago, Andwil said: Turret - are these the vanes on top that @bigbadbadge mentioned? Without a doubt! They give the turret a kind of 'Hello Kitty' vibe from that angle don't they? I've no doubt more informed minds than mine on here can illuminate the purpose of said vanes AW. My (ignorant) guess is somehow breaking up airflow over the spherical roof of the turret but I've no idea why such a thing would be necessary. The guys at Nhill are doing a splendid job and I'm most grateful to you taking the trouble to stop off. 39 minutes ago, corsaircorp said: I was thinking of a Welsh's air station ! CC: Do you mean 'Planespotting'? His follow-up to: 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Have you any idea about the cost-per-page basis for A.P. documents based on your own researches PC? I've had a look at their 'how-to-apply' section and for the amount of data I'm after in various non-digitized maintenance manuals it sounds potentially expensive... It's been over a decade since I had aspirations in that line, or dreams at all, but I want to say it was a pound per page (A2 paper though, so quite large pages) or something for hardcopy. Don't recall what it was just for a PDF. I got the entirety of the RN's confidential 1943 Battle Summaries on Ceylon and Madagascar printed out, along with pages of Y service reports and ORBs for Ceylon-based squadrons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Are you available for weddings and public speaking engagements Pete? I've been contacted by Gentlemen's clubs. Some of them had nails sticking out of the end. 1 hour ago, TheBaron said: Please tell me that the enquirer was a Pilot Officer Finbarr Saunders. It would be lovely if just once in life my immature brain matched with historical reality.... I can neither confirm nor deny your suspicions. Fnr! 1 hour ago, TheBaron said: tropical operations Carried out by Witch Doctors, obviously. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Pete in Lincs said: I've been contacted by Gentlemen's clubs. Some of them had nails sticking out of the end. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 hours ago, TheBaron said: Ooo-errr. And you an old customs sweat. Stick the bracelets on guv, I'll come quietly..... I doubt that you will; its rubber glove time! Martian Harsh But Fair 👽 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, Martian Hale said: I doubt that you will; its rubber glove time! Martian Harsh But Fair 👽 Hardly fair if you have 8 hands! Ian 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 How will you make the labels for all that wine? 🤣 Sorry, great stuff Tony. Jont. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 hours ago, limeypilot said: Hardly fair if you have 8 hands! Ian Perfectly fair. I will only be providing the instructions, you will be doing the actual searching Ian. Martian von Bending Over Backwards To Be Fair 👽 (Just to clarify, it will be the Baroness that will be doing the actual bending over) 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Been away for a while Tony, so I am catching up as ever; (when am I not doing otherwise on this site, and particularly this thread?) That wine - er, sorry oxygen bottle, rack and bottles are superb. I had to remind myself that this is God's Own Scale and not some monstrous one. Absolutely brilliant. I really do think that you should consider not bothering with a kit fir your next build - just scratch the lot! P 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 7 hours ago, pheonix said: Been away for a while Tony, so I am catching up as ever; (when am I not doing otherwise on this site, and particularly this thread?) That wine - er, sorry oxygen bottle, rack and bottles are superb. I had to remind myself that this is God's Own Scale and not some monstrous one. Absolutely brilliant. I really do think that you should consider not bothering with a kit fir your next build - just scratch the lot! P God did'nt make models... Should he ?? He will give 10 hours bonus a day ... Sincerely. CC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 On 3/11/2019 at 11:58 AM, Procopius said: but I want to say it was a pound per page (A2 paper though, so quite large pages) or something for hardcopy Thanks for checking PC. Appreciate it. On 3/11/2019 at 12:13 PM, Pete in Lincs said: I've been contacted by Gentlemen's clubs. Some of them had nails sticking out of the end. On 3/11/2019 at 12:15 PM, keefr22 said: Double On 3/11/2019 at 10:27 PM, The Spadgent said: How will you make the labels for all that wine? @keefr22 gets a bit tetchy if people leave maps laying around the cockpit so I'm going to pretend they're labels..... On 3/11/2019 at 10:38 PM, Martian Hale said: (Just to clarify, it will be the Baroness that will be doing the actual bending over) You'll have to catch me first! I gather there's more grim weather coming the weekend - stay safe you crusty old barnacle if you're out saving souls in the MV Tentacle Conveyor. 🚢 On 3/13/2019 at 11:23 PM, pheonix said: I really do think that you should consider not bothering with a kit fir your next build - just scratch the lot! Begone ye demon on my shoulder! Well, things do seem to be heading a specific direct Pheonix don't they? (And your own work has been a considerable inspiration in this regard!) On 3/14/2019 at 6:52 AM, corsaircorp said: God did'nt make models... Should he ?? He will give 10 hours bonus a day ... Amen Brother CC. I noted during the week that a number of UK firms are now experimenting with four-day weeks for their staff. Surely this is the pro-modelling agenda going mainstream! Bits and bobs tonight. I've been evading those various 'tidy-up' jobs you get on every build for too long and decided before any further bits of construction to take care of some housekeeping. There were quite a few soldering iron burns in various places around the cockpit area and some breakthroughs on the nose where I'd had to thin down the fuselage walls to paper thickness in places. I used that CA & flour method that Giorgio and others have gotten such great results from and found it brilliant! Admittedly this is one of those photographs showing an sbsence of damage now but trust me that forward edge of the cockpit that the windshield fits onto was a right mess before and now has a nice sharp border again. There were about four or five other areas around the nose with damage that can no longer bee seen now either. Great technique and uber-tip of the chapeau to whatever canny lad first worked that one out. The missile tube in the port nose is a replacement gun recess (as you've clearly noted for yourselves) - I'll come back to that in a bit. Also finished off were the series of 'sills' top and bottom along the length of the windows and doors: The should also help with positioning the extensive glazing securely later on: To build the recessed fairing for the Browning was just the simple expedient of cutting down some 1.8mm brass tube and Gorilla Glueing it into place: After curing, this outer radius of the tubing was then sanded down flush to give a decent replacement for the original moulding: There's a pronounced 'lip' to that fairing that I'll try and catch later. The plan for the nose section is use metal foil to give it a sense of being a single subsection of the aircraft, plus there's wing fairings to cut out on the Silhouette later as well, so the gun fairing wil lget added then. I've also as you can see removed all of the too-prominent rivets around the wing and nose areas as well. Airfix did not catch the nose of the Mk.1 very skilfully I'm afraid: Squintest though at the hooter on yon beastie where a flat panel runs up to the front of the nose. Airfix had this as an upward curve, as well as just a bit too much roundedness to the actual front of the nose, and no windows at all. To correct this I firstly excised a section from the underside of the nose altogether using the jeweller's saw: The front of the nose was then filed to tone down the curved profile a little and a circular hole bored out for the front window using a series of successsively larger cylindrical birrs in the Dremel: To rebuild that underside, I've roughed out a blank cut from some scrap moulding from the Iron Chicken: The final shape of both it and the window opening won't get done until the fuselage is stuck together (for obvious reasons) but that should do nicely as a correction without being too complicated a procedure. Tomorrow I want to confront another job I've been tiptoeing around and fill out some representative fixtures for inside the nose. I'm not going to worry about the bomb-sight or having the lower bomb-aiming window open due to the nature of the mission, so that should simplify matters. Hope your own weeks have gone well. Evenin' all. Tony 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 CA & flour? Piece of cake. I did wonder the other day, has anyone found a modelling use for bicycle spokes?* The neurons that thought that one up have been sent on vacation. *In my defence, I was in Grantham at the time. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Tomorrow I want to confront another job I've been tiptoeing around and fill out some representative fixtures for inside the nose. Hello Tony, looks grand by now. Take your time for getting further: And who put all that junk into the way??? Edited March 15, 2019 by bbudde 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Glad the CA + flour worked out for you Tony - and to an outstanding degree of excellence, I see I used to use CA+talc for this kind of repairs, then @Massimo talked me into replacing talc with flour, so credit goes to him in the first place. Also, more intriguing surgery on the nose section Have a great WE at your Baronial mansion Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 "Mastiff Competing At Dog Agility" I know exactly how he feels, every time I go for a jog! Regards, Adrian PS Nice nasal surgery Tony 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, TheBaron said: @keefr22 gets a bit tetchy if people leave maps laying around the cockpit so I'm going to pretend they're labels..... Quite right, I'm watching you sunshine....!! (and a grand job you're carrying out on faithfull Annie!) Keith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 More very fine micro-surgery there Tony. This is going to be one very special Annie. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Puppy sitting went well, thanks Tony - more in my thread when I get around to it. Great work on the Annie too - can't see any of those repairs and now I'm intrigued by the CA and flour method… what sort of CA and flour did you use? Normal or extra thin? I assume for the flour, being a man of taste, you used some fine ground organic Spelt? Jewellers saw again eh? Resist, resist… 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Looking very nice indeed Tony, great repairs. I take it that it's not self raising flour with the CA otherwise you could end up surprised on a hot day !!! Keep up the good work All the best Chris 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 7:15 PM, Pete in Lincs said: CA & flour? Piece of cake. On 3/15/2019 at 7:15 PM, Pete in Lincs said: *In my defence, I was in Grantham at the time. Thatcher cosplay Pete? On 3/15/2019 at 7:15 PM, Pete in Lincs said: I did wonder the other day, has anyone found a modelling use for bicycle spokes?* Place them upright at 1 metre intervals across the lawn to make your garden more interesting during thunderstorms. On 3/15/2019 at 7:39 PM, bbudde said: Hello Tony, looks grand by now. Take your time for getting further: That dog has the same tongue as me.... On 3/15/2019 at 7:44 PM, giemme said: @Massimo talked me into replacing talc with flour, so credit goes to him in the first place. Indeed - a to Massimo! On 3/15/2019 at 7:44 PM, giemme said: Have a great WE at your Baronial mansion Thanks Giorgio: with it being Paddy's Day this weekend we are in ultra-lazy mode and I haven't got as much done of Annie as I would have hoped, but there is a bit below.... On 3/15/2019 at 8:03 PM, AdrianMF said: I know exactly how he feels, every time I go for a jog! 😆 On 3/15/2019 at 8:03 PM, AdrianMF said: PS Nice nasal surgery Tony Thanks Adrian - needles to say I did manage to break a bit of the bottom of the circular window during this morning's operations, but as that area is in a state of flux anyway regarding modifications, there's no great angst involved.... On 3/15/2019 at 8:14 PM, keefr22 said: Quite right, I'm watching you sunshine....!! Just wait til I do my 'Map Room with Secret Charts Left Carelessly on Desks Overnight for Cleaners to Photograph' diorama Keith.... On 3/15/2019 at 11:36 PM, pheonix said: More very fine micro-surgery there Tony. This is going to be one very special Annie. Not to mention one with possibly the longest gestation period also! On 3/16/2019 at 8:41 AM, CedB said: can't see any of those repairs and now I'm intrigued by the CA and flour method… what sort of CA and flour did you use? Just Rocket Max (for the slightly longer curing period) and plain white breaad flour Ced. By trial and error I found that you want to add just enough flour so that the mixture turns pearlescent so that it still has a bit of flow to it, otherwise too much flour gives the mixture a granular consistency that sets too quickly also. It took me a few tests to get a feel for it but the hardened remains were perfect for a Cocaine Moon diorama... On 3/16/2019 at 8:41 AM, CedB said: you used some fine ground organic Spelt? Not at all dear boy. Wartime rationing: acorn flour would have been the authentic touch..... On 3/16/2019 at 8:41 AM, CedB said: Jewellers saw again eh? Resist, resist… This has become the tool of choice for most metal and plastic cutting these days Ced so I can reccommend something along the lines of: https://www.ebay.ie/itm/JEWELLERS-SAW-ADJUSTABLE-TYPE-INC-144-SAW-BLADES-/292677923075?hash=item4424f6b103 It comes with a large number of spare blades of different grades also. I've bought quite a lot of gear from those guys and find them very reliable. On 3/16/2019 at 8:44 AM, bigbadbadge said: I take it that it's not self raising flour with the CA otherwise you could end up surprised on a hot day !!! 😆 I remembered to drill out the circular skylight on the port upper nose section: Typically this came through right in line with the port locating pin for the kit moulding so it is not going to let much light in: Just below it I added the repeaters for altimeter and airpseed. The lower location pins were a problem in sticking far up enough to raise the bomb-aimer's floor up too high, so I ground these down by about 1.5mm, as well as adding a shelf on either side for the floor to rest on. Said floor: Originally I'd assumed there was a kind of mattress like affair for the bomb-aimer to lie out on but further investigation revealed this to be a square cushion for his chest/sternum area only. The cutaway from the original 1936 Flight article indicates that he had to lay at a slightly askew angle to fit inside the nose, which must have been uncomfortable on the neck for any prolonged period: Just realized looking at that, there seems to be another skylight on the starboard upper nose as well. How did I not see that before! 😁 Starboard side has a little more in the way of various boxed for things like bomb selectors and an overhead cabin light sticking out of the wall: The top of those two horizontal strips is also the cabin heater for the nose, though I'm not sure what principle it worked on. Floor test-fitted: You might *just* glimpse some of that looking in from the cockpit later: - but most traces will be gone when viewed from the schnozz window: Sorry there's not more but I'm kind of enjoying this long weekend of indolence..... Not anticipating too much further activity during the week as I have to fly over to Cambridge midweek for a couple of days work-related stuff. Looking forward to seeing the place as I've never been there but as so often happens, will be too busy to spend much time appreiating the surroundings. I'm booked into somewhere that describes itself as a boutique spa hotel: pray for my masculinity brothers..... 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giemme Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, TheBaron said: pray for my masculinity brothers..... Will do... Nice progress despite of the lazy mood... Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Thatcher cosplay Pete? 36 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Originally I'd assumed there was a kind of mattress like affair for the bomb-aimer to lie out on but further investigation revealed this to be a square cushion for his chest/sternum area only. Ah. Wartime. Rationing and times of severe austerity. Making do and all that. So long ago. These days he'd probably be asked to supply his own cushion, and by the way do you have £50 to help with the Avgas? 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Nice rhinoplasty Tony. I can't help thinking though, they fitted a forward firing, fixed machine gun. That implies that they thought an Anson could actually catch and get behind another aircraft to shoot at it. ????? Ian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 The Powers That Be (Powers That Were?) certainly didn’t spend too much time worrying about the comfort of a prone bomb aimer - especially in types for which bombing wasn’t the primary role. The dear old Swordfish had a similar window in its belly, between the wings. The Observer had somehow to get down with his head underneath the (admittedly raised) pilot’s seat in order to look through it. Even my Dad (who was 5’4” at the most, even on a good day, and very slight as the teenager he was when flying in a Stringbag) found it a challenge simply to contort his body sufficiently! Avro’s designers seem to have similar views to Fairey’s... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 hours ago, TheBaron said: Thatcher cosplay Pete? It's a lie I tell you! Work uniform is dark black. I'd picked up that blue two piece from the dry cleaners for a lady friend. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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