GordonD Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Enjoy the build! I did, both times. (No, I didn't buy two of them but with Lego you can take it apart and build it all over again!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Melo Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 hours ago, GordonD said: Sorry, I don't follow what you're saying. I mean a lot of people don't believe in moon landing Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymoore Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Eric Mc said: Apollo 12 was a very successful mission except for one significant aspect. When setting up the TV camera to cover their moonwalk, Al Bean inadvertently pointed the camera directly at the sun - and burned out the tube. As a result, most of the Apollo 12 moonwalk had no TV coverage. Many people claim that the sudden drop off in public interest in the moon landings was partly caused by this - although I'm not altogether sure about that. But it certainly didn't help. well you learn something every day - thanks Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Leo Melo said: I mean a lot of people don't believe in moon landing Gordon. With you now. Unfortunately no matter how much proof you offer, some people just won't be convinced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, andymoore said: well you learn something every day - thanks Eric You can see the actual moment Bean wrecked the camera on You Tube. All was going well with the TV until he unbolted the camera from the bracket that it was mounted on to show the astronauts coming down the Lunar Module ladder. His job was to move the camera a hundred feet or so from the Lunar Module and set it up on a tripod to show the rest of the moonwalk. As he moved the camera into position, he pointed it straight at the sun - and destroyed it. It was a colour TV camera (unlike on Apollo 11 which only had a black and white TV camera for use on the lunar surface) and possibly the tube was less robust than on the black and white camera. We had to wait until Apollo 14 before we got to see how well this new camera worked on the moon. On Apollos 15,16 and 17, the camera was attached to the front of the Lunar Rover and could be panned , tilted and zoomed in and out by remote control from a console at Mission Control. Edited October 10, 2018 by Eric Mc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 10 hours ago, Eric Mc said: You can see the actual moment Bean wrecked the camera on You Tube. All was going well with the TV until he unbolted the camera from the bracket that it was mounted on to show the astronauts coming down the Lunar Module ladder. His job was to move the camera a hundred feet or so from the Lunar Module and set it up on a tripod to show the rest of the moonwalk. As he moved the camera into position, he pointed it straight at the sun - and destroyed it. It was a colour TV camera (unlike on Apollo 11 which only had a black and white TV camera for use on the lunar surface) and possibly the tube was less robust than on the black and white camera. We had to wait until Apollo 14 before we got to see how well this new camera worked on the moon. On Apollos 15,16 and 17, the camera was attached to the front of the Lunar Rover and could be panned , tilted and zoomed in and out by remote control from a console at Mission Control. One of the points made by the hoax-believers is "Who was filming Armstrong coming down the ladder?" Answer - the camera was mounted on the LM Descent Stage and as he came down the ladder Armstrong pulled a lever which lowered the panel covering it. The LRV camera was, as you said, operated from Mission Control. Bear in mind that there was a 1.2 second delay between any input made and the camera responding, so it took a great deal of skill to get it right! If you watch the launch of the Apollo 17 ascent stage, the operator did a fantastic job in timing the upwards pan to keep it in shot as he was anticipating its movement, not following it. BTW the reason we never saw a similar move on Apollo 15 was that the camera had been giving problems with the upwards pan and occasionally the astronauts had to push it back down by hand. Obviously this wasn't an option after they had taken off, so it was decided not to risk it as the camera could still be used to a limited extent until the batteries ran down. I think they tried it on Apollo 16 but didn't get it quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Yes, Apollo 17 was his last chance - and he nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Melo Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 18:20, GordonD said: With you now. Unfortunately no matter how much proof you offer, some people just won't be convinced. Gordon, a brazilian writer said once: "Ignore is the only possible answer to ignorance." Millôr Fernades(1923-2012) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I wouldn't agree with that - unless the ignorance on display is "willful ignorance". People can be ignorant simply because of lack of education. The obvious answer to that is to educate them. The problem is when some people don't want to be educated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 I think it is time to bring my original thread back on track, that is to start preparing for any Apollo related builds you might wish to start. Some kits will be fairly easy and not very time-consuming, however others, such as dioramas etc., might just need to start planning soon. Hopefully we shall see some very good Space/NASA/Apollo/Saturn builds for 2019. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 It would be great if the NASA SIG had a special 50th anniversary display at Telford in 2019. I'm a member of the NASA SIG although it has all gone very quiet on that front at the moment. I've not heard anything about Telford 2018 so far. I certainly plan to build at least one 1/72 Lunar Module for the anniversary. I built one in 1979 for the 10th - a model that I still have amazingly, having survived numerous house moves and even a change of country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymoore Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I've given up waiting for a 50th anniversary kit, so expect one to be released any day now. Here's a link to the WIP for my Lunar Module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Esposito Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, andymoore said: I've given up waiting for a 50th anniversary kit, so expect one to be released any day now. Here's a link to the WIP for my Lunar Module. Hopefully, Dragon will come through.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cometracer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Those Dragon kits are fantastic. Some of the early 1/48 kits are good too, but the decals aren't all that great. Someone does replacement decals in the States, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Unfortunately, although the Dragon kits are nicely moulded, they have their inaccuracies too. In my opinion, Dragon missed a golden opportunity with their Lunar Modules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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