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Olivier de St Raph

Ford Mustang "1965" Convertible 1/16 from the Coupe AMT kit: the Indy 500 version

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Even if my decision is not yet taken, I am more and more tempted by the Indy 500 version, gorgeous, with her inscriptions and blue stripes:

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The color is Wimbledon White, a off white:

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In order to check that we have an off white for the body, I compare with this character undershirt...

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On the 1st photo of this post, the top cover is blue, like the cap of dashboard.

 

Notice that the Chrome underbody below is not present on the Indy 500 version:

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If I decide to build this version, quite probable, I should rename my topic, fe in:

Indy 500 Convertible 1964 Ford Mustang 1/16 from the AMT Coupe kit

 

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Tamiya not providing such an off white color (except in bomb, the TS 7), I could turn to this Hobby color reference, with no mixing necessary:

 

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OK , decision taken, I will build this version. Many reasons for such a choice, but the main is that, if my emotional coefficient was at 100% with the Rangoon Red car, it is at 120% with the Indy 500. The historical context (this version was created at only 3 items -and only 2 ones were finally used- and this only 1 month after the birth of the car) is another good reason... 

I have modified the title of this topic in order to keep the original title, with just quotation marks on 1965, as this was in fact a 1964 1/2 version, modified to play the role of pace car...

 

Thanks for understanding this decision, and for staying in tune

 

Olivier

 

N.B: all the infos brought by Bernard are of course current for this version, as only a few details are different from the 1964 1/2 to the 1965 version.

N.B 2: I won't use the red "carpet" ordered and received, the latter passing in losses and profits (maybe for another build...)

 

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2 new docs:

- the first precises the features of the Mustang pace cars:

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The second is a period order form, very interesting (and a bit funny, looking back) document:

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Sorry for the poor quality of the photo below, but if someone could find such a close-up of this plate, I would be very grateful...qJJQUo.png

 

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On the 5th photo of the post# 126 above, we can see another plate: "500". But here too, I couldn't  find any close-up on the Net. 

 

On the other hand, I could find this official program:

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Well, I will be far from my workbench in the next days, for holidays, but I will take advantage to go on with the research aspects...

 

Olivier

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The best I could find up to now is this flag:

 

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from which I can get this:

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P.S: I also found this one, very nice, but with no reference to the Indy 500:

 

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(RK Motors Charlotte is a famous dealer of Classic Cars, the one that sells - among others - the beautiful Indy 500 hardtop limited edition Mustang I mentioned above (1099000 $...). 

 

Any other suggestion?

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I have been wrong talking about a hardtop version for the restored Indy 500 to buy from RK motors.

Because of my just average english, I didn’ t understand very well if this car, sold for more than 1000000$, is really one of the 3 original pace cars created for the 1964 Indy 500.

But it seems that yes, what would explain the cost...

Anyway, one thing is sure, this model is a Convertible, and I wonder why RK motors always shows her with her soft  top on.

I will try to email them...

 

Olivier

 

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Thanks Ron, I did and made a lot of research in order to find the close up of the  IMS logo with the checkers as we may see on the pace car period photos, unsuccessfully for now...

If it is impossible to find it, I could try to reproduce it as well as possible...

 

... and thanks to all (especially Hannes and Harvey) for following and encouraging...

 

 

Olivier

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Yes Ron, thanks. On my side, I have ordered a second book:

« Mustang: reflets d'une légende » ETAI ed. , with about 300 great color photos...

I will get it when back home after holidays... 

 

Regards

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From the Mustang Monthly Magazine article suggested above by Ron, that will complete usefully the little summary I made in the post# 121 p. 5:


"No other car introduction can equal the Mustang's debut on April 17, 1964. Ford rolled out its new ponycar at Walt Disney's Magic Skyway exhibit during the 1964 World's Fair in New York after teasing the public on all three television networks the night before. An extensive Walter Middy-style advertising campaign in the months to follow pulled consumers into Ford dealer showrooms everywhere. Ford's advertising agency, J. Walter Thompson, created such a successful ad campaign that the Walter Middy theme continued through 1968.

Shortly after its introduction, the Mustang was chosen as the official pace car of the 1964 Indianapolis 500. Unlike subsequent '79 and '04 pace car models that were produced in the thousands, Ford assembled scarcely more than 230 Pace Car replicas for 1964: 35 dignitary convertibles for the Indy 500 Festival Parade, and approximately 200 hardtops for a pair of sales contests.

Three specially prepared pace car convertibles were also built to pace the Indy 500: 5F08F100240, 5F08F100241, and 5F08F100242, all with 09C (March 9, 1964) date codes. One was the primary pace car and the other two were designated as backups. All three came from the factory with 260 V-8s and three-speed manual transmissions, but their original drivetrains were replaced with Holman-Moody-built 289 High Performance V-8s and four-speeds. As we understand it, the primary pace car experienced mechanical problems and one of the backup cars actually paced the race, a fact that remains unconfirmed by a reliable source. One of the cars, 5F08F100241, has been restored. The other two are unaccounted for. Although it has been widely rumored that race winner A.J. Foyt got one of the three pace cars and gave it to his maid, this is not true. Ford actually gave Foyt a highly optioned Wimbledon White D-code convertible with blue interior. It is unknown where this car is today.

The 35 festival convertibles were not specially ordered or prepared. Because they were plucked from regional dealer inventories or from the Dearborn Assembly Plant and shuttled to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, they vary greatly, which also makes documentation difficult. We do know that all were Wimbledon White with a V-8, either 260 or 289, and had a variety of options, ranging from stick to automatic, with and without air conditioning, and so on. Clad in Indianapolis 500 graphics, they were auctioned to dealers after the race.

This leads us to the approximately 200 Indy 500 Pace Car replica hardtops produced for Ford's Checkered Flag and Green Flag sales competitions. These contests were run simultaneously during April 1964, with every Ford dealer having the opportunity to participate in at least one of the contests. According to Jim Haskell, who has done a tremendous amount of research on the Pace Car hardtops, each Ford sales district (36 at the time) arranged dealers into groups based on sales volume for the preceding 12 months. Both Checkered and Green Flag groupings were developed in each of the districts. A sales objective (number of units sold) for April was established for each dealership in each group. Dealers that exceeded their sales objective by the greatest percentage qualified to compete against other winning dealers in that sales district.

Ford figured out in advance how many winning dealers there would be and scheduled 180 Pace Car White (color code C, '64½ only) hardtops for production in mid-April. That's five pace cars per sales district. The top dealers were declared Checkered Flag winners while runner-ups were Green Flag winners. Checkered Flag winners won their pace cars outright, with Ford Division General Manager Lee Iacocca presenting the keys at a ceremony in Dearborn. Green Flag winners had the option of buying the cars..."

 

Very interesting infos. So we know that the 3 specially prepared pace cars (I represent one of them) were equipped with the HP 289 V8 engine and the four-speeds gearbox.

Incredible that 2 from these 3 have vanished...

We may understand the many variations (top cover, 260 or 289 engine) when we read that there were 35 festival convertibles, not specially prepared, coming from many dealers or from the Dearborn plant, and varying a lot from each other... 

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