Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I'd like to add a single, good quality 1/72 Soviet ground attack aircraft to my stash.....Something that I can hang a variety of interesting stores on (maybe even open up a little), but which I can build without driving myself benny mental. The need for aftermarket isn't a major issue (providing you can tell me what I will need) but I'd rather avoid rebuilding half of the airframe if possible. What would you guys recommend? One proviso.....Not a Su.25, I'm planning on getting one of those too (for Syria). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The Modelsvit Su7/17/20 family are lovely kits (in the box, anyhow), and the FITTER is just a cool-looking jet to begin with. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackman Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, Procopius said: .. the FITTER is just a cool-looking jet to begin with. I agree. It's got that brutish, menacing look that befits an attack plane. Sgt., I would also recommend Mig-23BN or Mig-27. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Have to agree with @Procopius and @Jackman. Any of the Fitter family. For aftermarket Armory do some good loads, especially S-24 rockets and range of FAB bombs. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I think this may have been mentioned 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I would also go with the fitter family and throw into the mix the Su-25 (Frogfoot). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Su-24 would be my pick. The Zvezda kit looks nice, although I have yet to start mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rob G said: Su-24 would be my pick. The Zvezda kit looks nice, although I have yet to start mine. I built the Trumpeter Su-24 a while back as an Afghan War bomber. It's pretty much the best FENCER on the market, but is a later FENCER-D, and I had to cobble together decals for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 Cheers guys, you've made my day! This: Is very much what I was hoping to hear! Now that you remind me, I do vaguely recall asking a few questions in a thread about the Modelsvit kits.....Which would be the best version (and kit) for a Soviet machine in Afghanistan please? Could anyone point me at the best source for ordnance and any aftermarket extras that might be needed? Pilot & groundcrew figures? Suitable Bowser? This is an 'I'm only doing this once, ever!' sort of project, so anything and everything that might be fun for a 'tooled to the max' Afghan Campaign Fitter would probably be of interest to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Hobbyterra makes a metal intake ring: http://hobbyterra.com/product/1-72-scale-air-intakes-for-su-17-family-early-for-modelsvit-kit-mini-world-7241a.html Two of the decal options for the Su-17M3 kit are aircraft based at Shindand in Afghanistan in the mid-1980s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 Cheers PC, so this one is a good option: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MSVIT72047 Before I do anything rash.....We aren't expecting this kit to get superseded by something from Tamiya or Zoukei Mura or somebody next week? That seems to happen to me a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Cheers PC, so this one is a good option: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MSVIT72047 Before I do anything rash.....We aren't expecting this kit to get superseded by something from Tamiya or Zoukei Mura or somebody next week? That seems to happen to me a lot! That's yer man, and no, nothing but other Modelsvit releases seem to be on the horizon. Personally, I'm waiting on the Su-22. 🇵🇱 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 Is that something I should consider? Keep in mind, this is not a Sherman, so I'm only reasonably confident about which end is the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The Su-22 is an export version still used by the Polish Air Force, so that depends on your level of enthusiasm for that country; mine is high. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 This is a very good article and has plenty photographs of the Su-17M4 variant in Afghanistan. http://www.diary.ru/~15061981/p213516659.htm?oam There are drawings of the M3 variant near the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Procopius said: depends on your level of enthusiasm for that country; mine is high Funnily enough, I'm building a quintessentially Polish thing right now: Not quite as sophisticated as a Sukhoi though.....The kit's pretty basic too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Scimitar said: This is a very good article and has plenty photographs of the Su-17M4 variant in Afghanistan. http://www.diary.ru/~15061981/p213516659.htm?oam There are drawings of the M3 variant near the end. What's the difference between a M3 and a M4 (& why do I fear that I'm going to regret asking that)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: What's the difference between a M3 and a M4 (& why do I fear that I'm going to regret asking that)? The Su-17M4 had: New nav/attack system, lower top speed due to fixed intake bullet, less internal fuel, K-36DM ejection seat in place of K-36, was lighter, had a shorter take-off run, able to operate TV-guided bombs, and (later) extra armour and four additional flare dispensers. The most visible difference is a heat exchanger at the base of the fin, which the Su-17M3 lacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 That'll be it, that's why.....I recognise some of the words, but that's about all! Cheers PC.....I'll no doubt thank you again once I figure out what it was that you said! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme H Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 As an aircraft modeller now you know why I had to follow the instructions on my Heller Sherman in the Sherman GB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 Did you get your Mk.I kit OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 This may be of interest: https://vvsmodelling.com/2017/12/06/modelsvit-172-su-17m3-fitter-h-build-article/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme H Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Did you get your Mk.I kit OK? Yep, when I visited Melbourne for the Model Expo, sorry for not letting you know, but I drove home solo from Melbourne 2879 kms on the odometer of my sons new 2nd hand VW Golf GTI, my memory went a bit lot fuzzy after that. Now just waiting for the GB to start. I knew a long time ago, but did a bit more research recently to find my maternal grandfather was involved in the recovery of the German A7V "Mephisto" which has recently gone through a refurbishment now on the lookout for the Emhar kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 That's very cool.....If I'd known about that I would have got you one of those fellas instead. 13 hours ago, Scimitar said: This may be of interest: Very much so.....Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 Bit concerned that the short run nature of the Modelsvit kit might put it outside my range.....The last thing I want to be doing is rescribing panel lines over the spine of a modern jet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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