Biggu Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 wow................... fabulously gorgeous.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 A glorious representation of a glorious aircraft!! Brilliant..... Congratulations, and thanks for sharing. πππ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 @Challenger350Pilot, I feel like a bit of a fraud passing any kind of judgement on this brilliant build. But there's one thing that catches my eye. And I think I ought to run it past you for consideration.... Β I think the tyres are looking too hard. Fully loaded, you're looking at 65 tons or so, and most of it bearing on the main gear and those 4 balloon tyres. I think they could do with flatting a bit, just to settle them onto the ground. Β I feel like a Chancer putting this on, and I hope you don't mind my observation! π Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger350Pilot Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 On β8β/β28β/β2018 at 5:12 PM, rob Lyttle said: @Challenger350Pilot, I feel like a bit of a fraud passing any kind of judgement on this brilliant build. But there's one thing that catches my eye. And I think I ought to run it past you for consideration.... Β I think the tyres are looking too hard. Fully loaded, you're looking at 65 tons or so, and most of it bearing on the main gear and those 4 balloon tyres. I think they could do with flatting a bit, just to settle them onto the ground. Β I feel like a Chancer putting this on, and I hope you don't mind my observation! π Hi Rob; Β Please do NOT feel like a fraud passing judgment. Model building is about as subjective as it gets, and passing judgment is a norm in this hobby. I appreciate your observation regarding the hard tires. I actually thought about going the extra mile and flattening the tires a bit, so she would look "loaded," but I really stuck with the look of being brand new, rolling off the factory floor in Burbank, California in 1958, before she made her delivery flight to Amsterdam and KLM. So the model stands "empty" of passengers, baggage, freight, and fuel. when fully loaded the real "H" model Connie would stand a bit tail down, with her main gear struts barely showing any silver shock, and her main gear tires rounded out a bit, but certainly not flattened...still inside the normal CG envelope forΒ takeoff and flight.Β And she would weigh in at about 72 tons fully loaded; a far cry from only 65. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Superb build.Β π. Did you have to add weight to the nose, and if so do you remember how much? Β Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJP Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Beautiful job - the Connie sure was an elegant aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger350Pilot Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 On β2β/β28β/β2019 at 4:34 PM, hsr said: Superb build.Β π. Did you have to add weight to the nose, and if so do you remember how much? Β Thanks Oh yes, I did have to add weight to the nose. A substantial amount, to be sure, but I don't know exactly how much. Its hard to judge scientifically how much to add, especially when the model is modified as much as this one with resin, pewter, zinc, and brass. My rule of thumb when having to add weight to keep the airplane sitting on all three is "add until there's enough." Simple as that seems, it works for me...not scientific by any means, but it gets the job done. The landing gear are all metal, so they can handle the stress of large weights on a large model. I found that once I added what I thought was enough weight, actually wasn't. And I discovered this long after the fuselage halves had been assembled and reinforced, puttied, sanded and primed. To test and see if I had enough, I pressed tooth picks into the gear holes, and set her down on a flat surface...she dropped to her tail! For the remedy, I drilled a small hole in the nose forward of the nose gear bay assembly, and dropped in small round fishing line weights until she sat upright, then I poured in Elmer's wood (water based) glue to hold the little balls in place, allowing it to cure with the open hole for about 10 days. When I was satisfied it had cured hard enough, I closed the hole with Tamiya white putty, sanded and primed, and continued on. What an ordeal...my non-scientific method worked! She's heavy...but she sits upright like she's supposed to. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I have all the aftermarket part and I have added a bunch of #6 shot. I have the fuselage closed up but without the wings on yet and it is nose heavy. I'll probably add some more before I add the wings just to make sure Β before I attach the wings. Β Thanks Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 @hsr, have you got the whole tail assembly on yet?? That's what you have to counteract, so far back behind the main wheels and balancing pointΒ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 No not yet. What worries me more are the 2 radar housings, they are heavy resin and the top one is a little aft of the landing gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busnproplinerfan Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 What I do is tape the parts on and see whatβs needed for weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger350Pilot Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 3 hours ago, hsr said: I have all the aftermarket part and I have added a bunch of #6 shot. I have the fuselage closed up but without the wings on yet and it is nose heavy. I'll probably add some more before I add the wings just to make sure Β before I attach the wings. Β Thanks Β I would echo the suggestion of taping on as many of the parts as you can, in their proper place, if possible, then determine the weight. The CG will move drastically as you add parts...better to know where its located, approximately, before adding the weight. Are you building a C-121? Take a look at these: Β http://nabe3saviation.web.fc2.com/modelc121.html Β https://modelingmadness.com/review/korean/us/usaf/cja121.htm Β Β 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I am doing an EC-121. So far I have the Fisher nose and the fuselage halves glued up. The Fisher nose took a bit more work then I expected to get it to match the fuselage, but that is all blended in. I am now working on the wings. I have the Fisher engines and the Plus model engines. I think I am going to go with the Plus Models engines since the fit better with the wing nacelles. I also have the Fisher tanks. I think I have enough weight in the nose, a whole 12 gauge shotgun sell worth og #6 shot, but I will do the taping of the parts on, just to make sure.Β Β 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger350Pilot Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, hsr said: I am doing an EC-121. So far I have the Fisher nose and the fuselage halves glued up. The Fisher nose took a bit more work then I expected to get it to match the fuselage, but that is all blended in. I am now working on the wings. I have the Fisher engines and the Plus model engines. I think I am going to go with the Plus Models engines since the fit better with the wing nacelles. I also have the Fisher tanks. I think I have enough weight in the nose, a whole 12 gauge shotgun sell worth og #6 shot, but I will do the taping of the parts on, just to make sure.Β Β Perfect! Will you post it in the WIP thread? Sure would love to follow your build. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, hsr said: I have the Fisherο»Ώο»Ώο»Ώο»Ώο»Ώ engines and the Plus model engines. I think I am goinο»Ώg to go with the Plus Models enginesο»Ώο»Ώ @hsr, does that mean you want to let those Fisher engines go, or do you have another Connie to do?? I'm interested in getting a setΒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Challenger350Pilot said: Perfect! Will you post it in the WIP thread? Sure would love to follow your build. I am a little intimidated to do a WIP I don't think my work matches up to yours orΒ aquatarkus10's. I'll have to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, rob Lyttle said: @hsr, does that mean you want to let those Fisher engines go, or do you have another Connie to do?? I'm interested in getting a setΒ PM sent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 19 hours ago, Challenger350Pilot said: Will you post it in the WIP thread? Sure would love to follow your build. Well for better or worse I started one. Β Β Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobo Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Absolutely beautiful. I'm sorry if I missed this, but did you use Alclad for the natural metal areas? I assume you used their black primer first? Thank you for the build report! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger350Pilot Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 On 4/9/2019 at 6:26 PM, Hobo said: Absolutely beautiful. I'm sorry if I missed this, but did you use Alclad for the natural metal areas? I assume you used their black primer first? Thank you for the build report! Please forgive me for being so late...more than a year...in answering you. Yes, I did use Alclad polished aluminum overΒ the Alclad black base coat. Took quite some time preparing the surfaces, as they need to be completely smooth and free of blemish as possible. The base coat and the finish will only accentuate the imperfections, if they arenβt sanded smooth and polished. And since this model is a large 1/72nd scale, it took a lot of spraying to cover the entire fuselage belly.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCI Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 lovely..glad i found the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger350Pilot Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 5:33 PM, RCI said: lovely..glad i found the topic. Thanks, Sini! I really appreciate that. Not quite the masterclass that you present...and I have learned quite a bit from watching your posts! Looking for more...soon!!!Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Wowed, this is a real beauty,Β great work.Β Those U/C bays look amazing and the polished metal paint absolutely stunning.Β The windows look great to. Amazing work ChrisΒ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger350Pilot Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 12:58 PM, bigbadbadge said: Wowed, this is a real beauty,Β great work.Β Those U/C bays look amazing and the polished metal paint absolutely stunning.Β The windows look great to. Amazing work ChrisΒ Thank you, Chris...kind words much appreciated!Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob K. Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Beautiful model, just today I purchased the Airfix Super Constellation. Just wondering where you obtained the 3D window decals? Β Again, you achieved a magnificent build. Β Inspirational. Β Rgds, Β Β RobΒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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