Three interwar biplanes: Avro 504N, Airco DH9, Vickers Vildebeest -now THE END!

[JWM]

Some more riging - it is not the end!

 

 

What is left in riging is control cables for ailerons and riging of u/c/

BTW (u/c) - the spoky wheels made ffrom PE elments by Part and rubber o-ring 10 mm

 

Cheers

J-W

[JWM]

Hi

Today morning (I have summer holidayas) I have finished riging

 

On the above take the fuel pipe is not glued yet in position (small hole assumetrical on top of engine)

 

Propeller, vacu taken from Potez XXV by Broplan (which I converted to Potez 29, with different prop)

 

In the evening I paited her (Humbrol 56 with some white 34)

 

The same with flesh

 

 

And the charm of spoky wheels  :

 

Hope to finish soon maybe even  tomorrow. Problem is with strange font shape of "3" in 34. I have Print Scale set of decals with SCW nationalists numbers but that one is different. I will have to go across my decal resources (what takes some time) but there is only small hope thatI will found some suitable. Then I will have to maje it in some way.

 

Best regards

J-W

 

 

[JWM]

P.S.

If you compare original look of wing surface

 

the current one is a bit more realistic

 

[JWM]

Hi

The propeller was mounted in a tube (as I mentioned already it is a piece of a handle of a lolipop). Have a look below at left. 

 The cooler i mase of sheet of plastic and stainless steel fine net (below right) 

They look that way:

 

The decals - I have used letering from a set of Print Scale Franco 

I was considering also use of markings of Revel He 70 but finally I turned back to Print Scale one.

The strange font "3" I cut out from also strange "5"

During applying of decals:

 

 

Looking at the photo of 34-10 I realized that whole rudder was white. The st. Andrew cross - the upper left bar of it goes more forward than acle of turn of rudder. This could be only if the whole rudder (not only the part aft the axle) was paited white. I have doubts if the whole fin was not white but there is tinny difference in shades. White have to be paited twice, so this will be done later.

Regards

J-W

 

Edited July 24, 2018 by JWM

[JWM]

Let say it is finished

 

 

I am going to gallery and to RFI

Time to start Vildebeest

Regards

Jerzy-Wojtek

 

 

 

 

 

[zebra]

Very nice indeed!

[Giorgio N]

Very nice ! The aluminum finish actually makes this even more eye-catching than your previous model.

[JWM]

Mny thanks Zebra and Giorgio! About build of this DH 9 I was thinking from about 2002, when I 've seen it firs time in the book "Aviones en la Guerra Civil... " by Miranda and Mercado. I bought this book during my duty trip to Caceres, Spain where I worked for a month at Extremadura Uni ,,, I made almosr 10 models following drawings and profiles from this book. Currently I am building Aero A -101 (massive scrtch work with conversion from A-100, WIP thread exists) and now I will go on with next - the Vildebest :).

Best regards

J-W

Edited July 30, 2018 by JWM
mispelling corrections

[JWM]

I painted base of insides

 

 

Cheers

J-W

[stevehnz]

Really nice Jerzy, this is very much the thread that keeps on giving. Your 504N & DH.9A are brilliant, looking forward to the Vildebeest.

Steve.

 

 

[JWM]

6 hours ago, stevehnz said:

Really nice Jerzy, this is very much the thread that keeps on giving. Your 504N & DH.9A are brilliant, looking forward to the Vildebeest.

Steve.

Thank you Steve :).  

I have to watch a bit on past WIP threads about Vildebest - are there any flaws to correct?  

Regards

J-W

[JWM]

I have found a very nice build of five Vildebeests/Vincents by @VG33

And excellent Walkaround on New Zealand restoration of Vincent. In latest there is an stunink info on size of ailerons diference between variants.

And a also very interesting WIP thread

 

So I have to study them!

There are some more about painting, especially the Singapore based tropical colours one.... I will study them later.

Regards

J-W

 

[JWM]

Here is a fascinating thread on RAF Vildebeests

Aside GB I will do Vildebeest Mk III from Singapore. Here I will post only photos from Spanish Vildebeest in this bizzare scheme

Regards

J-W

 

[Giorgio N]

The Vildebeest seems to have been relatively popular on this forum in the last few years, can't help myself with info but I hope that the threads you linked can give you the answers you need

[JWM]

Hi

I slowed down because I am finishing with Aero A 101 of Nationalists from Spanish Civil war....

However i put some lead into floats of Vildebeest, secured with epoxy glue

 

Cheers

J-W

 

[Wez]

It never occurred to me that a float plane could be a bit of a tail sitter - useful tip that!

 

Great work so far Jerzy.

[Patrik]

Hi Jerzy,

 

two bigger errors you must be aware of with the SH Spanish Vildebeest kit. The kit propeller rotates in wrong direction and the horizontal stabilizers are of wrong shape. Both issues have been addressed by the beautifully cast resin correction set here.

 

Regarding Mk. III, you have read my WIP thread, so you know well, what you must take care of. Please also notice that most Mk. IIIs were flown as three-seaters. The third cockpit has been nicely reproduced in the Vincent boxing of the same kit, unfortunately neglected in the Mk. III one (released before the Vincent).

[JWM]

Thank you Wez and Patrik for comments!

 

Patrik - I apprecieted very much your advice. I think I will try to correct things in Spanish Casa Vildebeest rather by scratch work. It is really surprising how often prop rotates in wrong direction. I think that when you are about to design model and among all parts the prop - the direction of rotation id the most basic question in design of model prop!

Unfortunatelly I bought the Vildebeest before I got informed that Vincent will be also released. I would prefere to buy Vincent but I do not want to do two radial Vildebests/Vincents...  So again I will try to build is from scratch looking at the details of inside in net, perhaps also in your thread.

I have to check also what is about ailerons. There is a difference between Mk I and later variants shown on one drawing in threads I qouted...

Regards

J-W

 

 

 

[Patrik]

Went through the Vildebeest/Vincent references in my library briefly yesterday. The references are not particularly reach, but I have not found a single photographic evidence showing change in the size of the ailerons from the prototype, trough Vincent, till Mk. IV. For sure not in such extent as shown by the general drawings in the mentioned thread. I had no time to read all the text in books and magazines (which may contain some remarks regarding the issue), but I think it is quite safe to assume that the drawings showing the aileron differences are incorrect.

[JWM]

Indeed, even Mk IV with cowling has the same narrow ailerons as early Mk I. So perhaps it was idea nover turned into production...

Some progress on my Spanish Vildebeest:

 

Pilot armchair and gunner chai

 

I thinned walls at gunner position (left) - right is radial Vildebest Mk III which I am doing behing GB

 

And glued fuselage

 

I think that someting is wrong with bottom of front of fuselage. I have to check photos...

Cheers

J-W

 

 

 

 

 

[JWM]

Photos really show a bit differently nose of Spanish Vildebeest, I mean the bottom of it:

 but here it is not so clear:

Moreover,  the fairing of engine seems tp be a bit different on the latest take!

 

And here is scheme I would like to do 😛

Cheers

J-W

 

 

[JWM]

Hi

I am looking at the nose of Azur CASA Vildebeest (V-engine) and I 've came to a puzzle. Please have a look at the bottom of the nose. It is about those two plates which are separated parts in model. Here is something what is similar  to what we found in box regarding the element in front of oil cooler, but behind oil cooler there is a round windew (as it is also in Mercado-Molina book)

 

Here it is lookes differently, like e surface cooler? But normal cooler is also, so?

 

Here it is clear that it is an additional surface cooler, maybe added due to hot Spanish weather? But look that there are differencies (?) in side circular/square (?) window among machines: 

But here it is ful width of fuselage 

 

All photos from Russian page http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft26288.htm

Cheers

J-W

 

[JWM]

I have used a piece of a resin corrugated plate which I made many years ago to do Fin of my Greek Junkers G 24

If you do not wish to go to whole thread you can see the fin here

 

As you can see I made corrugated surfaces of fin by copying some bottom of wing surface in silicon and then by putting (smearing) thin layer of resin into this silicon form. I cannot find now this silicon form but I found some test plates from one I cut out piece which I glued into preparred place in CASA Vildebeest nose

Please note a transparent window instead of woriginal part. The shape of nose is a bit rounded in bootom side.

I worked also a bit on shape of top of nose 

 

I hope to improve a bit this nose...

Cheers

J-W

 

[JWM]

Regarding proppeler of Spanish CASA Vildebeest. Not only direction of rotation seems to be wrong. In book by Miranda/Mercado http://www.centrallibrera.com/libro/aviones-en-la-guerra-civil-espanola_42899

there are drawing and technical data and they gave diameter of propeller 3960 mm what gives 55 mm in 1/72 and model has 59 mm.

So I can use propeller from Aero A-100 (equal to 55 mm) , which left me since A-101 had different rotation direction.

That is good

To be cont.

J-W

 

[Giorgio N]

Looks like the Spanish machines went through some kind of local modifications. Wonder if anyone in the interwar forum knows more about these ?