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Three interwar biplanes: Avro 504N, Airco DH9, Vickers Vildebeest -now THE END!


JWM

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Hi,

I will try to do three interwar biplanes, two of them having roots in WWI, but still active in WWII or Spanish Civil War.

First is Avro 504 N in Belgian colours, which I will try to convert from A-model MU-1,a Russian build Avro 504 K.

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I will use 7 cylinder engine from Cierva C30

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I would like to do her in Belgian colours from 1940, like here:

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Besides u/c and engine the difference in aeilerons, fuel tank and? = that is all what I recognized so far.

Ailerons and rounded

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The second is Airco DH 9 in Spanish Civil War colours (likely Nationalists)

This will be conversion from Polikarpov R-1, Russian version of DH 9 A, so wings have to be smaller by chord and by wingspan and front of fuselage will be different as well. The kit is that :

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I have already made smaller wings

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Today I made some paintings and start to cut fuselge and then I realized, that first I should meke foke of initial state, sorry for that:

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I hope this is still below 25% of advance in build.

 

There is instruction which is very cool:

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Likely 34-18 on spoky wheels published recently by @Artie in one of last posts here

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235039778-airco-dh9-aviación-militar/

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The third one will be Vickers Vildebeest on floats OOB like here:

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I am doing now 3 other model (2 in WIP) so I will start slowly...

 

Regards

J-W

 

 

 

 

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All interesting subjects and I have to say J-W, you're much braver than me contemplating three such subjects especially with the work involved in the Avro and the DH9 (the Wildebeest seems almost simple in comparison, which I'm sure it isn't)!

 

Good luck in this GB, I look forward to seeing your efforts come to fruition.

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correction

on those photos:

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it is clear, that Belgian 504 Ns have rectangular ailerons, not like Dannish one....

Regards

J-W

 

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Hi,

My work on Aero is now a bit stopped due to time needed for drying of putty I started to work on DH 9 and Aro 504 N.

Since the most pleasent part of work is scratch conversion of engines (both Avro 504 and DH-9) I did work with insides much faster than I could expect :)

Starting with Avro 504:

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Here both (still without seat belts and instrument pannels)

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Seat belts from Tamiya tape painted  olive green

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I glued fuselages and left for drying.

 

To be cont.

J-W

 

 

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Hi realized that I did not shown drawing, which I am basing on to do conversions. They are photos not scans, just to keep copyrights .

DH 9 from Merinda & Mercado book

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Avro 504 N (surprisingly both consistent! ), found in Net, scaled to 1/72

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I have found in draver a piece of plastic suitable for new nose of 504 N:

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I recognized that it is a fragment of nose from Revell RF4E Phantom, which I had about 1975...!!! I think I did it in different version, as F4B likely (?). I remember my F4B Phantom from my school days in US Navy livery wit red part of top, but I think it was rather Airfix kit... So where this RF4F nose came from? 

Covered with first layer of Tamiya putty:

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The upper wing in central section is different  in 504N tan in 504 K because a new organization of fuel tanks came. Moreover, slimer central section improved visibility from pilot cockpit. I made this modification:

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I did in evening also some work on nose of DH9

 

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to be cont.

Cheers

Jerzy Wojtek

 

 

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Hi,

Sanding and adding filler and sanding... Scratch conversion of nose of DH 9.

Now it is like this:

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With Avro 504 it goes faster. I used upper wing for put in line lower wings

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The front of fuselage is ready, I glued tail and lower wing as you see

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I made also fuel tanks below upper wing 

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To be continued

Cheers

J-W

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Great work and great progress Jerzy, also inspiring to see someone with the courage to make such changes.

 

Keep up the good work!

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Thanks! 

Interesting is that "504 N" is preserved in museum in Denmark

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The riging is blocking taking place in the front cockpit - it seems to be available only from back!

Cheers

J-W

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P.S.

Very helpful here for me is "walkaround of 504" here on BM, althought it is "K" version but details of riging stays the same I hope...

Cheers

J-W

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Hi,

Today I drilled out majority of openings for riging in wing area, sanded fuel tanks and glued main struts

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With DH9 I was still working on right shape of nose

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That was all for today evening...

To be cont.

Regards

J-W

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6 hours ago, Giorgio N said:

Looks like the 504 will be ready pretty soon, that's some fast modelling !

Thanks! Almost... Next week I have duty trip to Pisa, Italy, so I will pause for some time modelling.

Cheers

J-W

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I will pause for a week from now. What I managed to do is I made some first or rather pre-painting (Humbrol 150)

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Then I glued upper wing on position

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To be cont.

Hope to come back with new photos on Friday

Regards

J-W

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Very impressive. Got both on my very long to do list. BTW both sides used the DH9 in the early stages of the SCW and later as trainers. Just thinking that Republican colours are easier to apply.

 

Regards, Steve

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On 7/1/2018 at 1:36 AM, stevehed said:

Very impressive. Got both on my very long to do list. BTW both sides used the DH9 in the early stages of the SCW and later as trainers. Just thinking that Republican colours are easier to apply.

 

Regards, Steve

In book by Miranda & Mercado "Aviones en la Guerra Civil...." even Avro  504 k is quoted as machine used in SCW. But there are no photos, so I decided to do 504N from Belgium. The Republicans DH9 are not documented on photos, mainly the photos are for pre-war machines and for Nationalists. Therfore I am thinking on Nationalist side machine. 

Cheers

J-W

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6 hours ago, JOCKNEY said:

Lovely work Jerzy, I do hope you have enough Floatplanes left for some of the other Group Builds

 

cheers Pat 

Hi,

Pat, thanks! Of course I have still floatplanes for a year "production" :) 

So after a week pause due to a duty tip a spent many hours today on riging the wings of Avro 504:

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It was a bit advanced, since I decided to make the double cables where they were double ...

 

I worked a bit also with engine. The main part as well as exhaust pipe came from Cierva C-30 (I was converting to Leo 30, so orginal Azur engine left in a drawer. The propeller is made from A-model Polikarpov I-5 wooden (spare in my case) prop. I cut out spinner and made hub by drilling 8 holes around and one central, then glueing short rods.

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It is rotable!

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Cheers

J-W

 

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5 hours ago, Giorgio N said:

I'm always envious of modellers who can add all the rigging to a biplane so easily !

 

This is because of EZ! But wait a second! - who told that it was easy? I took me some 10 hours,. in practice whole Sunday with a break for UK GP in Formula 1... ;) 

Cheers

J-W

 

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