chrisov Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Just received the trustees report from Newark Air Museum and within can be found a comnent that 'the Viggen was lidar scanned and digitised by an external company' Wonder who thats for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomppa B Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 "Wonder who thats for? " Lets do some deductive analysis. Newark Air Museum is in Great Britain. Airfix is known for LIDARing aircraft found in museums. So we can deduce that the most likely company doing it is Airfix. And when you add to this that its 1/72 Viggen is not one of the best around we can be quite confident to state that it not Special Hobby that has been at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Intriguing news! Also, SAAB would probably have lots of drawings available, and Mr Owens was in Stockholm a while ago. Coincidence? Special Hobbys 1/72 Viggen is not far off, and from the test shot I saw in October it looks great. But I do welcome an Airfix one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofiane1718 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Christer A said: Special Hobbys 1/72 Viggen is not far off, and from the test shot I saw in October it looks great. But I do welcome an Airfix one! Opportunism, I don't like it, I'd prefer to see Airfix making a new Draken, or Saab 21, or 91, or a Lancen or a Tunnan... very much left to do in 1/72! Or maybe Airfix is going the 1/48 way, or maybe it isn't Airfix that was LIDARing it, time will tell... 😛 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 You have to think this was for Airfix. Has Tamiya been known to LIDAR any of their aircraft subjects; they have a history of doing more esoteric subjects along with the more conventional subject matter? There are preserved Viggens in Czechia and Germany, which you would think would be more convenient for a Czech company (Special Hobby) or Revell to access. Trumpeter has not been known to LIDAR any of the subjects of their kits, mores the pity. If it was Airfix, we likely won't know for at least a year as they refine the design of the kit, but this sounds promising. The big question is whether the kit will be 1/72 or 1/48, although my money would be on 1/72. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) Perhaps it for a DCS World module, not for a plastic model kit. Edited June 23, 2018 by Laurent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaddad Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Could go for one of those but its going to be at least £21 so maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthewbacon Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, spaddad said: Could go for one of those but its going to be at least £21 so maybe not. It's a pretty long way from "Viggen LIDARed at Newark" to "I think the Airfix 1/72 Viggen that is definitely coming out is going to be overpriced at more than £21..." Personally, I doubt that a 1/72 Viggen fits into Airfix's range strategy anyway... so we're left with the possibility that the LIDARing was done by *any other model kit company in the world*, for a model *in any scale* or for a Corgi diecast *or any other die-cast company in the world* and it will be sold for *any price between £15 and £1200 (for a 1/24 scale model sold a few pieces at a time on the front of a partwork)* Not so much jumping to conclusions as taking a run-up followed by a flying leap in the general direction of the Archipelago of Conclusions, missing the landing completely and falling over the edge of the world... 😜 best, M. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaddad Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, cmatthewbacon said: It's a pretty long way from "Viggen LIDARed at Newark" to "I think the Airfix 1/72 Viggen that is definitely coming out is going to be overpriced at more than £21..." Personally, I doubt that a 1/72 Viggen fits into Airfix's range strategy anyway... so we're left with the possibility that the LIDARing was done by *any other model kit company in the world*, for a model *in any scale* or for a Corgi diecast *or any other die-cast company in the world* and it will be sold for *any price between £15 and £1200 (for a 1/24 scale model sold a few pieces at a time on the front of a partwork)* Not so much jumping to conclusions as taking a run-up followed by a flying leap in the general direction of the Archipelago of Conclusions, missing the landing completely and falling over the edge of the world... 😜 best, M. Only going off Airfix's past & current pricing practices,current version of the Lightning is £21, a new tool Viggen won't be any cheaper, might even match the Phantom. At no point did I state it was definitely coming out, maybe if less people blindly defended Airfix they wouldn't chance their arm so much with pricing, example being the 2 seat Me-262 being £6 dearer than the single seat kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 My thoughts are that - although it sounds like Airfix it just doesn’t fit in to their current thinking of offering subjects capable of being re-boxed with other nations markings. IMO a Viggen is almost the last subject that fits this bill and with the new SH kit not far away, why risk it and go there? Perhaps they’ve contracted their equipment out to help raise badly needed funds for the parent company. This equipment doesn’t make money just sitting around I suppose. Cheers.. Dave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXANTOMCAT Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Wasn’t there the rumour that the Lincoln at Cosford was LIDAR’D a few years back. The Sea Fury and Phantom scans were noted.... Lincoln for 2019? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Difficult to believe that anything as generally unknown as a Lincoln would fit into Airfix's plans, either. Yes, I know it and you know it, but it would make a big model and would it sell? I think most of us could come up with a fairly long list of comparatively well-known 4-engined types that would sell better, including B-24, Halifax and Stirling... But a Viggen could be well-enough known to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, TEXANTOMCAT said: Wasn’t there the rumour that the Lincoln at Cosford was LIDAR’D a few years back. The Sea Fury and Phantom scans were noted.... Lincoln for 2019? A Lincoln??? - I'd give my first born away for one of those!!! Actually he is almost 17 now and a pain in the neck (at times) - still up for trade even without a Lincoln being announced. Cheers.. Dave 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Lambess Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 A Lincoln Vote from New Zealand here ! Much better looking than a Lancaster in My eyes 😛 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) The Lincoln was flown by three air forces, one of which being Argentina’s. Airfix included Argentinian markings in one of their 1/48th Canberra kits. RAF Lincolns wore 3 main colour schemes: Tiger Force (as does the Airfix Lancaster B. I(FE), Dark Green/Dark Earth/Night and Medium Sea Grey/Glossy Anti-searchlight Black. Codes and serials were Night, Red or White and the serials could be in 8” or 48” characters (Red or White respectively). Throw in some individual markings and coloured spinners for a bit of variation and the combat veteran factor, and let’s not forget the (not so) High Speed Silver Australian Mk. 30s and 31s (1/48th Meteor in RAAF Korean War markings). As the Lincoln and early Shackleton shared wing and undercarriage components, dorsal turret, plus Universal Power Plant engine cowlings, a good case could be made for an Airfix Lincoln before the 80th anniversary of the type’s first flight in 2024. Edited June 24, 2018 by stever219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Rabbit Leader said: My thoughts are that - although it sounds like Airfix it just doesn’t fit in to their current thinking of offering subjects capable of being re-boxed with other nations markings. IMO a Viggen is almost the last subject that fits this bill and with the new SH kit not far away, why risk it and go there? Perhaps they’ve contracted their equipment out to help raise badly needed funds for the parent company. This equipment doesn’t make money just sitting around I suppose. Cheers.. Dave On the other hand, the Viggen has a 34 year service history and appeared in a number of different colour schemes. I believe there is also still an airworthy example that is displayed regularly. There are more marking options than there were for the Swift FR.5, which only flew with 2 squadrons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Laurent said: Perhaps it for a DCS World module, not for a plastic model kit. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Could have been film related, too. Or just a stock 3D model site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Puff Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Just a point of pedantry - the RAAF's Lincolns were sprayed silver, not "bare tin". In the environment in which they operated, bare metal would have made them corrode even quicker than they did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1903flight Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 12 hours ago, VMA131Marine said: On the other hand, the Viggen has a 34 year service history and appeared in a number of different colour schemes. I believe there is also still an airworthy example that is displayed regularly. There are more marking options than there were for the Swift FR.5, which only flew with 2 squadrons. Swift flew with 3 squadrons - 2, 79 & 4. Admittedly 4 SQN only flew them for a mater of months, after the re numbering of 79 SQN, and not all of them had had 79 SQN markings removed before the Swift was replaced by Hunter FR.10s. If I could find decals for a 4 SQN Swift, that will be another Swift Airfix would sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, 1903flight said: If I could find decals for a 4 SQN Swift, that will be another Swift Airfix would sell. I bought all of the Alley Cat sets for converting the Airfix FR.5 to an F.1, F.2-F.4, and FR.7. I ended up buying quite a few Swift kits. Edited June 24, 2018 by VMA131Marine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDragon Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 A Viggen fits with the Airfix remit of replacing old back catalogue moulds, think I read somewhere that the kit of the prototype sold pretty well (I had several) as did their old Draken. Paul Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 22 hours ago, Laurent said: Perhaps it for a DCS World module, not for a plastic model kit. That's unlikely, as I think that's out now, so it would be a bit "horse before cart" It could be Airfix, but then just because companies haven't LIDARed their kits in the past, doesn't mean they can't start Don't let that distract you from wishing for a new Viggen in your own personal favourite (the one true scale) scale though I'm gonna throw out a long-shot. 1:24 Viggen by Airfix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mike said: That's unlikely, as I think that's out now, so it would be a bit "horse before cart" You're right still my point was that guys laser-scanning an aircraft doesn't imply that that a plastic model is in the works. A Su-22 was scanned at the Cottbus museum two years ago. I'm not sure it was done to produce a new Su-22 plastic kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, Laurent said: You're right still my point was that guys laser-scanning an aircraft doesn't imply that that a plastic model is in the works. A Su-22 was scanned at the Cottbus museum two years ago. I'm not sure it was done to produce a new Su-22 plastic kit. Very true - I think we're on the same page there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, cmatthewbacon said: It's a pretty long way from "Viggen LIDARed at Newark" to "I think the Airfix 1/72 Viggen that is definitely coming out is going to be overpriced at more than £21..." And the rivets and panel lines are way off in some areas ! Edited June 24, 2018 by Richard E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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