Dave Fleming Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 The Xtrakit was moulded by Sword, not MPM. Which might explain why it has never re-appeared in an SH/MPM box!! The MPM tooled Xtrakits (Vampire, Meteor, Sea Harrier) all appeared in other guises as part of their main ranges, the Sword tooled ones (Canberra PR9, Swift, Scimitar) were Xtrakit exclusives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 11:42 PM, Scimitar said: Did the three parts look like any part of a Scimitar? My one is going to be turned into this or one of the later proposals That is interesting, anymore info or larger pictures ? Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Robert said: anymore info or larger pictures It's a total 'what if?' Robert as the only two seat Scimitar proposal was the Type 564. This had a side by side cockpit like a Hunter T8, Blue Parrot radar and Gyron junior engines. Never got beyond drawings though. If you go to this site and click on the image,you get a better look. :http://thempirestwilight.wikia.com/wiki/807_Naval_Air_Squadron_(Royal_Navy) Smart beastie isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Thanks for that, it looks very smart. I have two of the Xtrakits so one is heading towards that direction. Robert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Is there a reason the Scimitar was not classed as a FB1 instead of F1. Reading the article and other sources it seems it should have had that designation. It is an interesting aircraft and many firsts for the RN. Also l do wonder why Hannants do not do another run of kits.... Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixII Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Robert said: ..........Also l do wonder why Hannants do not do another run of kits.... Robert Hi Robert, think you'll find it's because Hannants don't own any of the moulds that have been issued under the Xtrakit name. Slightly O/T, was told that they were offered the chance to buy the Meteor Mk.8 mould and declined, that's why the kit was issued by Airfix shortly after the Xtrakit, as well as being issued by MPM as both the Mk.8 and the FR9 Would guess with the quantity purchased, evidently it didn't turn over either fast enough or with sufficient margin, but I don't know for fact. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decalmaster Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hi Phoenix, You have said 'Slightly O/T, was told that they were offered the chance to buy the Meteor Mk.8 mould and declined, that's why the kit was issued by Airfix shortly after the Xtrakit, as well as being issued by MPM as both the Mk.8 and the FR9' I am curious where that rumour comes from because there is not the slightest truth in it. Our buying the Meteor Mk8 mould has never been mentioned. And we have not done another run of any Xtrakit as a conscious marketing decision to let the range die as they sell out. Which also means there is unlikely to ever be any additions to the range. David Hannant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, decalmaster said: Hi Phoenix, You have said 'Slightly O/T, was told that they were offered the chance to buy the Meteor Mk.8 mould and declined, that's why the kit was issued by Airfix shortly after the Xtrakit, as well as being issued by MPM as both the Mk.8 and the FR9' I am curious where that rumour comes from because there is not the slightest truth in it. Our buying the Meteor Mk8 mould has never been mentioned. And we have not done another run of any Xtrakit as a conscious marketing decision to let the range die as they sell out. Which also means there is unlikely to ever be any additions to the range. David Hannant Shame, I had hoped you would do a Venom FB4! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Dave Fleming said: Shame, I had hoped you would do a Venom FB4! No one will EVER do a Venom 😦🤯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/22/2018 at 8:51 PM, Scimitar said: It's a total 'what if?' Robert as the only two seat Scimitar proposal was the Type 564. This had a side by side cockpit like a Hunter T8, Blue Parrot radar and Gyron junior engines. Never got beyond drawings though. If you go to this site and click on the image,you get a better look. :http://thempirestwilight.wikia.com/wiki/807_Naval_Air_Squadron_(Royal_Navy) Smart beastie isn't it? Is there any drawing around of the Type 564 ? Have to say that with that seating arrangement, a radar and a some of the "not really the best" engines this could have been one of the worst performing aircrafts of its days 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Side by side seating would be like built-in headwind - otherwise, it would have been quite similar in concept to the Buccaneer 1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Thanks for the update Mr Hannant. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Robert said: s there a reason the Scimitar was not classed as a FB1 instead of F1. The design specification issued in May 1953 called for a single seat fighter to carry out day interception,day CAP and day long range and strike support. In service it wasn't very good above 25000 feet ,not much use as a fighter but it was very good at low level strike. Perhaps it should have been an FG 1 (like the Phantom) or an S1 (like the Buccaneer). The correct decision was made not to develop it further as the superb (eventually) Buccaneer was coming along and there was an excellent fighter in the shape of the Sea Vixen. Perhaps that's why nobody bothered to change the designation. 1 hour ago, Giorgio N said: Is there any drawing around of the Type 564 ? Yes. In Air Britain's Scimitar File. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Dave Fleming said: Shame, I had hoped you would do a Venom FB4! Nice try! Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixII Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 10 hours ago, decalmaster said: .........I am curious where that rumour comes from because there is not the slightest truth in it. Our buying the Meteor Mk8 mould has never been mentioned. David Hannant Morning David, if it's names your after, sorry, I've been to bed since then! What I can remember is it came up in conversation, possibly at a model show, meaning anywhere from North Shields to Hendon and across to Telford! I can remember units being discussed, and the comment that the four kits shared common moulds, to whit, MPM x2, Xtrakit x1 and Airfix x1. The information was never mentioned in a 'have you heard the rumour......' or a 'Oh, I heard...' vein. As I had no reason to doubt the veracity of the person speaking, I just took it as correct and mentally filed it. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Back on track the Xtrakit Scimitar seemed to fly off the shelves much faster than any of the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixII Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 12 hours ago, tempestfan said: Side by side seating would be like built-in headwind - otherwise, it would have been quite similar in concept to the Buccaneer 1 ? ..........of course! You mean similar to the E.E. Lightning T.4...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 17 hours ago, tempestfan said: No one will EVER do a Venom 😦🤯 Why? On those who make the Venom some spell is imposed? ...some magic of the priests of Voodoo? The curse of the Egyptian pharaohs? B.R. Serge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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