Bedders Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Hi folks, I'd like to do an F8F-2 ideally, but what kits are out there? Any thoughts? Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalea Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Art Model if we.re talking 1/72 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedders Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, dalea said: Art Model if we.re talking 1/72 Is it any good? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Sword makes a very nice Bearcat kit that can be built as an F8F-1 or F8F-2. It's a pretty nice kit, and IIRC, comes with a resin insert for the very cluttered wheel bays and center section of the Bearcat. Not sure if it is still available, though. The old Monogram kit, which actually has some features of both the dash 1 and dash 2, can be made into an F8F-2, with the fin/rudder and lower cowling vents/outlets being the major changes needed, IIRC. You would have to make up for the non-existant cockpit details as well as box in and detail the wheel bays and center section. I think the windscreen on the dash 2 is different from the dash 1 as well, but maybe @Tailspin Turtle can be more forthcoming with confirmation or corrections, if he sees this. Frog also did a Bearcat, but it is long, long OOP and I never saw one, so have no idea how good it was. I did an early F8F-1 from the Monogram kit years ago, and while the cockpit was pretty easy to do, the scratchbuilding and correction of the wheel bays, landing gear struts, and wheels was no fun! I also think there were a couple of aftermarket resin wheel bay sets for the Bearcat, with maybe HiTech being one of them and maybe Cobra (now Lone Star Models) being the other? Sorry I can't be more helpful! Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2016/07/grumman-f8f-bearcat-windscreen.html There are other posts on the Bearcat in this blog. Just type F8F into the search block with the magnifying glas in the upper left hand side of the page 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, 72modeler said: The old Monogram kit, which actually has some features of both the dash 1 and dash 2, can be made into an F8F-2, with the fin/rudder and lower cowling vents/outlets being the major changes needed, IIRC. Here is the Revell release of the Monogram kit, built OOB. I'd avoided chipping in, cos there are differences in tail height and weaponry, and I can't remember the details. Edited June 9, 2018 by theplasticsurgeon More info 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I've built a Bearcat recently. I bought the Art Models kit, but gave up on that as I got fed up with trying to get the included resin to fit. So I went back to my trusty Monogram kit (which I still like as a kit) and added the Cobra Company resin update set which I got from Lone Star Models. Not expensive, even ordering from the US, and really kicks that Monogram kit up a dozen notches. I've got a Bearcat I'm very happy with now. Steve 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Ah, the ultimate(?) post on the F8F vertical fin: http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2016/07/grumman-f8f-bearcat-vertical-tail.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the link. So does the Monogram kit have the -1 or -2 vertical fin? Edit: Sorry! Should have read the article a little closer! Seems I should have extended the tailfin a little as I wanted a -2. Bit late now, but it looks ok. Steve Edited June 9, 2018 by fightersweep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Tailspin Turtle said: Ah, the ultimate(?) post on the F8F vertical fin: http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2016/07/grumman-f8f-bearcat-vertical-tail.html TT, Wish I had this reference material when I did mine years ago- will definitely be able to get it right next time! Thanks for the posts. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Avoid the Art-Model kit like the plague! I really struggled with this kit, and I'm sure it wasn't user error: I'm confident enough in my abilities to conclude that it is just a bad kit. I'd go for the little Monogram/Revell F8F-1 kit every time. Clever engineering makes for good fit, the discretely raised panel lines look a lot better than many modern trenches, and in recent re-issues you'll get some excellent decals. All you really need is the Airwaves etch and some effort to bodge-up the wheel wells. It's not perfect, but it is genuinely one of my favourite kits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 There was a crazy all-resin and PE 1:72 Bearcat with a lot of detail, especially in the cockpit, engine bay and wheel wells. Was it Attack Squadron who made it? I saw one in a box once at a show, and was quite amazed at all the parts. I didn't have enough cash to buy it though! Ah, here it is: http://www.hyperscale.com/2014/reviews/kits/attacksquadron7201872lp_1.htm I have the Sword kit, and it has two separate fuselage sets, one for the -1 and one for the -2. Test fitting looks pretty good, as does the resin engine. I'll build it one of these days. Cheers, Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, Navy Bird said: There was a crazy all-resin and PE 1:72 Bearcat with a lot of detail, especially in the cockpit, engine bay and wheel wells. Was it Attack Squadron who made it? I saw one in a box once at a show, and was quite amazed at all the parts. I didn't have enough cash to buy it though! Ah, here it is: http://www.hyperscale.com/2014/reviews/kits/attacksquadron7201872lp_1.htm Cheers, Bill I instantly regretted not buying one of those when they came out- and then sold out- and then promptly abandoned making resin kits altogether! I wonder whether the moulds got sold on? Anyone know? Edited June 11, 2018 by Killingholme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 On 11/06/2018 at 13:59, Killingholme said: I instantly regretted not buying one of those when they came out- and then sold out- and then promptly abandoned making resin kits altogether! I wonder whether the moulds got sold on? Anyone know? I believe that Brengun bought the Attack Squadron tools and production rights. Cheers, Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 On 6/10/2018 at 7:10 PM, Killingholme said: Avoid the Art-Model kit like the plague! I really struggled with this kit, and I'm sure it wasn't user error: I'm confident enough in my abilities to conclude that it is just a bad kit. That will make two of us then. I couldn't get anything to fit! I did rob the kit of it's tailwheel though, as the Monogram kit's tailwheel looks too large, so the Art Model did end up having some use, Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 9 hours ago, fightersweep said: That will make two of us then. I couldn't get anything to fit! I did rob the kit of it's tailwheel though, as the Monogram kit's tailwheel looks too large, so the Art Model did end up having some use, Steve Hoo boy! Pretty pricey tailwheel, mate! (I've done far worse to get one part- I admit it...it's a disease, I tell ya!) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 12 hours ago, fightersweep said: That will make two of us then. I couldn't get anything to fit! I did rob the kit of it's tailwheel though, as the Monogram kit's tailwheel looks too large, so the Art Model did end up having some use, Steve Such a waste.😒 I managed to salvage the cockpit part too. (although it didn't end up in a Bearcat- it went in a Valom XF-8B-1...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 FROG /NOVO has the better kit. I made my with a decal sheet from printscale: And here with markings from the same sheet the Monogram /Revell kit: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/14131616036/in/photolist-nwLe7m-i5rG2u modelldoc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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