badger Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The couple of photos I have to hand of 4 ton lorries show a 9 on the bridging plate. I found the following side plan of a K6 GS showing the body was metal with a vertical spare wheel locker at the front. Sadly thereis only the one view (taken from British WW2 military transport by David E Jane and used for discussion purposes only). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just found this: https://www.djparkins.com/product.php?productid=18460 Expensive but very nice! Might help with the layout of the rear bed for you? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) Early production examples of the K6 had a wooden body, unusually with vertical planking. This was also used on the Austin K5 4x4: there is a picture of one of these on D-Day with a bridge classification of 7, but this is a converted ex-portee, which may be relevant. A photo of an arcticised K5 shows 9. The Airfix QL comes as a 9, too. Is it possible that the 6x4s had a slightly lower bridge classification because of the wider spreading of the load? (This is claimed on canadiansoldiers.com.) Wiki states that 3 ton GS were 7, with some petrol and office versions being 8, and the 6x4s being 9. This doesn't appear to be completely convincing. I've also seen it said that the bridges were 5 ton rated, 9 ton rated, or higher, rather than any with intermediate, lower, numbers. This might suggest that 9 was given to lorries that could perhaps have been overloaded to reach this, in recognition of human frailties? However in 1944 the equivalent lowest values were 5, 7 and 9, with additional higher intermediate ratings. Edited August 24, 2018 by Graham Boak second thoughts 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 More great work Big X. The wheels on cocktail sticks are like classic Airfix era party food, but I think the kebabs might have been a bit exotic back then! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Well I'm back on the air folks - thanks to a courier delivery ON A BANK HOLIDAY... I can't believe they sent me a new power lead and that has fixed things - anyway I'm not complaining. I did look in a few times over the weekend - on my mobile - but boy - I don't know how you guys actually 'contribute' via your phones - it took me all my time just to try and view some stuff and 'like' a couple of things. However there is always an upside - I got loads done on Friday night / Saturday / Sunday... On 24/08/2018 at 21:47, badger said: Just found this: https://www.djparkins.com/product.php?productid=18460 Expensive but very nice! Might help with the layout of the rear bed for you? Thanks for the link Ben - if you pop in later you'll see it all went a bit 'BIG X' around here and I've made my own truck beds... ...of sorts... On 24/08/2018 at 22:00, Graham Boak said: Early production examples of the K6 had a wooden body, unusually with vertical planking. This was also used on the Austin K5 4x4: there is a picture of one of these on D-Day with a bridge classification of 7, but this is a converted ex-portee, which may be relevant. A photo of an arcticised K5 shows 9. The Airfix QL comes as a 9, too. Is it possible that the 6x4s had a slightly lower bridge classification because of the wider spreading of the load? (This is claimed on canadiansoldiers.com.) Wiki states that 3 ton GS were 7, with some petrol and office versions being 8, and the 6x4s being 9. This doesn't appear to be completely convincing. I've also seen it said that the bridges were 5 ton rated, 9 ton rated, or higher, rather than any with intermediate, lower, numbers. This might suggest that 9 was given to lorries that could perhaps have been overloaded to reach this, in recognition of human frailties? However in 1944 the equivalent lowest values were 5, 7 and 9, with additional higher intermediate ratings. Thanks Graham - I'm going with a '9' as I couldn't find any 8's 17 hours ago, zebra said: More great work Big X. The wheels on cocktail sticks are like classic Airfix era party food, but I think the kebabs might have been a bit exotic back then! Thanks Zebra - The wheels tasted lovely - but you always want more... Anyway - time for a 'series' of updates - in 'chunks' - so as not to confuse anyone - least of all me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 FRIDAY NIGHT... You may remember I had previously used my K6 drivers on my jeeps - but I had located some possible candidates... from here... The box has 3 kits with a total of 6 possible drivers and 6 passengers too... As the cab is pretty bare I decided to get some passengers in too... I like the fact that the drivers are holding steering wheels - which is easier than trying to fir the kit steering gear. The problem when it comes to the KATYs though is the fact that these guys have no legs and the canvas doors on the KATYs are posed in the 'rolled' position. I did toy with the idea of making canvas doors with masking tape - but ended up gluing some tube on at their knees to give the 'impression' of legs... I am sure that a blind man on a galloping horse would say they looked like legs 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 The foil from the tops of wine bottles makes great tarpaulins etc so might work well to make some doors? Great progress so far! All the best Ben 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 SATURDAY MORNING... Whilst the sprues for the PSC kits were still on the bench I had a look at the cargo bays for the CMPs - for some inspiration. They have a base / front bulkhead / tailgate / 2 identical sides... The problem was they were only half as long as I needed - then it hit me - what I glue 2 together... I posed it with the PSC wheels 'loosely in place' to see the effect... I had to shave the 'stumps' off at the front of each cab base - but it looked like a goer. I only used one front and one back - and there was a gap in the middle - but I filled that with a piece of evergreen... I really like the tailgate... and the bulkhead adds some interest... I added 2 strips of evergreen to the base - to get a firm fir to the chassis... All in all a very productive Saturday morning - one sorted - one still to figure out... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 SATURDAY AFTERNOON... After returning from ASDA and before tea I took another look at the PSC sprues and noticed this... I can only describe it as a sort of RSJ reinforced bumper with a 'bull bar'. I have seen K6 photos with the more traditional forward sloping bull bar - but nothing like this. MIND YOU IT DOES LOOK 'BUTCH' So - as we had started to go 'off piste' with the flat bed - we might as well add these - there isn't enough to make a CMP anymore - so we might as well use up a few more bits... COOL - well I think so - it is perfect match for width - both of the grill and the wings - and the lights peep over a treat. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 SATURDAY NIGHT... After tea and a couple of glasses of vino - I was feeling adventurous - so back to cannibalising the PSC sprues... I cast my eye over 2 of the canvas canopies - could I possibly join them together... An initial 'test fit' showed they fitted snug at the base - but with a 2mm gap at the top - could it be filled... I decided it could be done - with a bit of work and plenty of filler. I put a frame in and sanded the bottom edge - to try and even up the gap... This would hopefully minimise the filler. When it was filled I was quite pleased - it reminded me of something - nothing conventional - it reminded me of a DUKW... After this it was time for more wine - so 'close of play' at the bench - I didn't want to push my luck - too far. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 I was so inspired by the DUKW I went on Amazon and ordered 3 1/72 Italeri DUKWs... ...it must have been the wine. Heaven knows what I'm going to do with them - I can't find any reference for their use by the 11th Armoured Division 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Aye up Steve. Nice to see another Big X 'botch job' in progress. Triffic work mate 👍😉 Regards. Steve 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawzer Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, fatfingers said: Aye up Steve. Nice to see another Big X 'botch job' in progress. Triffic work mate 👍😉 Regards. Steve Couldn't agree more! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 SUNDAY MORNING... With no internet - apart from the phone - I watched MOTD and waited for the Belgian Grand Prix to start. In between that though I kept nipping upstairs 'tinkering'... ....LOOK WHAT I MADE - as kids say... I still had a spare bulkhead and tailgate - so I fished out a sheet of evergreen 'planking' or 'v' groove as I think they call it. Slightly 'overscale' compared to the other base and sides AND lacking a bit of detail - so more evergreen strip was fished out... I added some to the chassis to lift the bed a bit and provide a firm fixing point - then set to work on the sides... I followed the other bed as an idea and made 2 frames for each side - to suggest they drop down... ...and whilst the mood was on me I added a couple of plates or flaps at the back - so I have somewhere to put my Black Bull and arms of service... By this point it was Grand Prix time - so I left it all to properly set and harden. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 SUNDAY AFTERNOON... I got the engine covers and windscreens on the KATY's and then added the rather punt looking bull bars... Then it was time to get the punch out - it's amazing just how many holes you can cut in such a small off cut of plastic... These were for the bridging discs of course... Whilst the punch was out I remembered to make the caps for the K6 cab roof holes... ...so it seemed a good time to get the cabs finished at the same time... I did mess around for about an hour - trying to make windscreens - but it beat me - so I am going to skip that - if Airfix didn't put them in than they must think they look better without them 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSH Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Fantastic attention to detail and brilliant modelling again.....however, everything you build looks so good, I keep wanting to add it to my wish list!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 hours ago, BIG X said: I was so inspired by the DUKW I went on Amazon and ordered 3 1/72 Italeri DUKWs... ...it must have been the wine. Heaven knows what I'm going to do with them - I can't find any reference for their use by the 11th Armoured Division Not sure 11th Armoured used them but console yourself with the fact it's a very nice kit (or in this case 3!). All the best Ben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 These may be useful https://www.dantaylormodelworks.com/d-day-dukws-384-p.asp All the best Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, badger said: Not sure 11th Armoured used them but console yourself with the fact it's a very nice kit (or in this case 3!). All the best Ben 3 minutes ago, badger said: These may be useful https://www.dantaylormodelworks.com/d-day-dukws-384-p.asp All the best Ben Hi Ben - reassuring to know they are good - I might do D-Day project at some point. These decals look perfect for the job too. Don't set me off though - I may end up ordering landing craft and all kinds of nonsense. After my recent experience with my canal I think I'm allergic to water at the moment ☔ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 SUNDAY NIGHT... On with the mammoth catch up... After tea it was time for some priming... The canopy looks promising after a quick spray - I wouldn't know it was 2 stuck together... in fact everything came out really nice - Thank You Halfords... I went a stage further with the tyres and got the black on... hmmm... black olives... I got some SCC15 on the kebabs as well - though it looks a little grey here... ...and I couldn't resist a coat of dark earth on the canvas - just to see what it would look like... oh yeh - well impressed - small things amuse small minds as they say. With that it was MOTD2 and then bed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 MONDAY MORNING... It's the last Bank Holiday of the year - before Christmas and apart from trying to get my internet back up and running I got more done today - well the weather was lousy up her in the hills. I started with getting the hubs into the tyres - on reflection I should have thinned the hubs from the back - so they would sit deeper in the tyres - but they are OKish... Then it was on with the SCC15 or Vallejo 71.260 via the airbrush... I got the blutac skewers off the bases and then hand painted a bit of detail on the undersides... ...you can't really see it here but the leaf springs / exhausts / axles all got a lick of burnt metal - more for contrast than anything. As I have been working on a lot of very BASIC kits recently - with little to no detail on the undersides this is a bit of a change. So that was Monday morning gone - time for a spot of lunch before the afternoon session. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 SUNDAY AFTERNOON... The afternoon was taken up with the really slow stuff - lots of 'spots' of paint here and there... First up were the drivers with flesh for the hands and faces / black for the steering wheels and berets for the ambulance drivers/ dark green for the helmets / more dark earth for touching up any mistakes. I used my trusty silicone paper to stop the paint drying whilst waiting to be used - great stuff... They need varnishing and a wash adding to bring out some detail - but they are neat enough. I did splash a drop of sand - ready for their webbing - but none of them have any - so I painted the seats with it - as per the beige covers you see on Bedford MWD's... Then it was these 2 colours... ...boring note - yes this is the same piece of paper - you can use a scrap dozens of times as the paint just sits there on top - then wipes clean off. Anyway I painted the bridge discs on the K6's as I ma unsure of the no 9 decals are a complete match... ...and the white was for those tiny discs on the roof sections on the KATYs - where I am 'cobbling' tiny red crosses... All this 'detail' work took a lot of time - as my hands aren't the steadiest. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 MONDAY NIGHT... So this brings the thread back up to date and as I've been updating here I haven't got too much more done. I got the wheels into the KATY cabs - before I forgot and put the roof on... Question - there is room behind the K6 cabs for a spare wheel and the ones in the PSC kit aren't too bad - would it be a nice idea - or a step too far... Anyway - in the meantime - I got all the wheels on... Don't panic that those wheels don't look like they are touching the table. My workbench is glass topped - for easy cleaning of paint spills - though it can play tracks at times. So that's me all caught up again. What's next - gloss varnish for everything and then some decaling. Another question - the KATYs have loads of decals and there are none to speak of for the K6s - do I put some small stars on the bonnet and doors - what do you think... Anyway - thanks for looking in and the continued support on this little build. Happy modelling for the week - Steve 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just wonderful modelling taking place here.. all expected of course but the attention to detail is just superb. Now will everyone please stop posting these excellent kits - my wallet (& loving wife) are not exactly coping at the moment and as for the kids, I'm sure I fed them sometime last week! Cheers.. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Looking good. I think a small star on the bonnet for the K6 and a white "L" number on the doors maybe? All the best Ben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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