Academy B-24 Nose Wheel Weight?? Any suggestions?

[Greg in OK]

Does anyone know what amount of nose weight I will need to stop the Academy B-24 from being a tail sitter?

 

I was surprised there was no suggestion on the instructions.

 

Greg in OK

[Bullbasket]

1 hour ago, Greg in OK said:

Does anyone know what amount of nose weight I will need to stop the Academy B-24 from being a tail sitter?

 

I was surprised there was no suggestion on the instructions.

 

Greg in OK

You'd be better off asking this question in one of the aircraft modelling threads, as this one is for chatting about non modelling subjects.....usually.

 

John.

[Vince1159]

You could try glueing fishing weights in the nose other than that the same as Bb said you'd get a better response in the aircraft section...

[Mick4350]

Having a quick look on the net, it seems like 90 grams minimum.

[PhoenixII]

Greg,

no idea about 'how much' weight but you could always 'cheat' like this one:-

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zeaKv9iGGN4/U9AfaqvjwcI/AAAAAAAAB7c/5YnYhZUmMy8/s1600/DSC_0572.JPG

or then there's this:-

https://web.ipmsusa3.org/sites/default/files/reviews/b-24d-liberator-ploesti-raider/02-sub_assemblies.jpg

or what they do now, with the full size aircraft:-

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BBLmbvjNxVQ/UZrBHlKt_zI/AAAAAAAAJVg/IgxK1rWgCbk/s1600/IMG_3021.jpg

check the bottom right hand corner.

or this:-

https://modelingmadness.com/scott/allies/us/b24jb.jpg

 

Place's for weight, as well as behind the nose wheel well, you can load the engine nacells, but just be careful of the nose undercarriage leg,

to much weight and 'snap', if you can get hold of a brass nose wheel leg, so much the better, DON'T trust the SAC undercarriage leg,

while it shouldn't snap, it will surely bend.

 

Paul

 

[Julien]

8 hours ago, Bullbasket said:

You'd be better off asking this question in one of the aircraft modelling threads, as this one is for chatting about non modelling subjects.....usually.

 

John.

Yes pls ask in the relevent section.

 

Julien

[72modeler]

You can tape the airframe together, including the cowlings, and hold the wingtips at a point even with where the main gear struts mount and then add weight on top of the nose until it drops- this will give you a pretty accurate indication of how much weight will be needed to keep it on its nose wheel. I would put the test weights in the cockpit, which is right behind the nose wheel bay, as this will be where you will have the most room for weight. If any weight has to go aft of this point, you are going to have to add extra to account for the shift rearward. Real B-24's were notorious for rocking back on their landing gear when empty of fuel and bombs, and ground crews frequently parked an empty fuel drum under the tail skid or rear fuselage to keep it from tail sitting. The F7F Tigercat was another multi that had the same issue.

Mike

[Simon]

As Mike mentions, the real thing was a potential tail-sitter - the R.A.F. often used to prop an oil can or ammo box under the tail skid.

 

http://www.rquirk.com/fail/li2kn752.jpg

 

http://www.rquirk.com/fail/322mu/Image90.jpg

 

Alternatively make a tripod stand:

 

http://silverhawkauthor.com/images/site_graphics/Aircraft/Aircraft---Canada/Consolidated-B-24-Liberator--RCAF-Photo.jpg

 

Simon

[theplasticsurgeon]

On 5/28/2018 at 1:24 PM, Greg in OK said:

Does anyone know what amount of nose weight I will need to stop the Academy B-24 from 

Lots, I'm building my 4th Academy Liberator here. 

 

I extend the tail prop with a piece of rectangular section strut - a bit like an arrester hook. Just visible on these photos.

I

[Chuck1945]

FWIW, Hasegawa recommends 90g in their B-24 kit. I plan to use a plasticard crate under the skid on mine

[Roman Schilhart]

I've built the Hasegawa kit, and used exactly 90g ballast in the forward section, so I can confirm the above suggestion.

You have to be creative though to fit that amount of lead shots into the available spaces.

[Black Knight]

Don't forget you have space in the engine nacelles as well

and remember the maths of it; the closer to the pivot point ie the main u/c wheels, the greater the weight needed

 

[hacker]

 

There is this which is meant for the hasegawa kit but still l was thinking of using this in the old revell one for weight

 

Hacker

[bentwaters81tfw]

I used most of that in the Matchbox Privateer. Still needs more weight though. Plenty room as long as you keep it ahead of the bomb doors.