Meatbox8 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Not a modelling question but seemed appropriate to ask it here. This month's Flypast has an advert for The Lightning Preservation Group's Lightning x 4 day and within it is a nice photo of four Lightnings lined up, including their stalwarts XR728 and XS904 plus F.3 XR718 in rather fetching 56 sqn colours. Between XS904 and XR718 is what appear to be an F.6 in 74 sqn colours with the serial XR768. This particular aircraft was, I believe, the first F.6 to enter service but was written off after a reheat fire in 1974, the pilot ejecting successfully and the aircraft crashing in to the North Sea. So an aircraft masquerading as another, presumably, and possibly an ex-Saudi one. However there is nothing on the LPG's website about another F.6 or F.53. They do, apparently own a fourth Lighting but this is another F.3, XR713. So can anyone tell me which F.6 this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I believe it lives in the South West. It's had a repaint and is due to appear at Cosford for the BoB show. IIRC it is an ex Saudi machine. It will be going back home after it's hols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 Thanks for that speedy reply - appropriately enough with the Lightning. I wonder if it will be the one at Bruntingthorpe. Must cost a few bob to transport it. I suppose Cosford can't roll theirs out because they've suspended it from the ceiling (Grrrr - a pet hate of mine). I did some filming with the LPG a few years ago. As great and dedicated a bunch as one could hope to meet and I got to meet Jimmy Dell as well. Now sadly passed away. I got to sit in XR728 as well. What fun! All power to their collective elbow. I'd quite like to go but it's a real hike from where I live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 6 hours ago, bentwaters81tfw said: I believe it lives in the South West. It's had a repaint and is due to appear at Cosford for the BoB show. IIRC it is an ex Saudi machine. It will be going back home after it's hols. That's odd as F.53 ZF580 from Newquay is having a spruce up and repaint with GJD/HASL - but as far as I'm aware it is still at St Athan before it goes off for display Cosford. Not doubting it might go to Brunty, but Photoshopery for now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I think the picture is photoshopped 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Just found the pic, four Lightnings, three shadows! Still, will be good to see the four together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 (edited) Its heading there after the do at Cosford. It's ZF580 ex Warton Gate guard before she went to Cornwall. Edited May 19, 2018 by tweeky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 https://lightnings.org.uk/shop/tickets/lightning-x4/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/18/2018 at 9:05 PM, 71chally said: Just found the pic, four Lightnings, three shadows! Still, will be good to see the four together. Ah ha. Well spotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 19 hours ago, tweeky said: Its heading there after the do at Cosford. It's ZF580 ex Warton Gate guard before she went to Cornwall. So she's ZF580 painted up to represent XR768? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 By the way, are either of the LPGs F.3s runners or are they just static? I really like those Sixties colours so would love to see them in full re-heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 The sole F3 at LPG is static display (with 111 Sqn on one side and 56 on other) the Two F6's are fully functioning except the seats !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, tweeky said: The sole F3 at LPG is static display (with 111 Sqn on one side and 56 on other) the Two F6's are fully functioning except the seats !!! Interesting that they have two F.3s according to their site, XR713 and XR718, so I was really confused. The advert shows XR718 with 56 sqn markings on port side. However, according to Thunder and Lightnings '718, while extant, lives in Darlington and is in poor shape, having had its outer wings and fin sawn off. In addition the Thunder and Lightnings entry for '713 has a photo of it with 111 markings on the port side. Anyway, after a bit of on-line research it seems that '713, while once bearing 111 markings all over, has since been painted was '718 in 56 markings on the port side. So the LPG doesn't have two F.3s, just one with two identities! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) Port (Left) side is 111 Sqn. Stbd (Right) is 56 Sqn. The Jet was disassembled and Move down from Leuchars to Bruntingthorpe then reassembled at the time its was on 111 Sqns marking (as the Sqn was there operating F3 Tornados) Last year they decided to do a "half and half" so that's why its got the 56 Sqn markings.http://www.aeroresource.co.uk/news/lightning-xr713-56-sqn-scheme/ THey also has the cockpit of a T5 XV382 Edited May 21, 2018 by tweeky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, tweeky said: Port (Left) side is 111 Sqn. Stbd (Right) is 56 Sqn. The Jet was disassembled and Move down from Leuchars to Bruntingthorpe then reassembled at the time its was on 111 Sqns marking (as the Sqn was there operating F3 Tornados) Last year they decided to do a "half and half" so that's why its got the 56 Sqn markings.http://www.aeroresource.co.uk/news/lightning-xr713-56-sqn-scheme/ THey also has the cockpit of a T5 XV382 Never could tell my left from my right! Looks resplendent either way. Edited May 21, 2018 by Meatbox8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) Just remember if flying or sailing red is not right Edited May 21, 2018 by tweeky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Newsome Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, tweeky said: Just remember id flying or sailing red is not right There's no red port left. 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 On 5/21/2018 at 8:20 PM, Roger Newsome said: There's no red port left. 😉 You have confused me or missed something....Port is always left ....and never lift the decanter from the table....else....the white rat will see! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Newsome Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 hours ago, junglierating said: You have confused me or missed something....Port is always left ....and never lift the decanter from the table....else....the white rat will see! I didn't have to worry about that drinking tins of McEwan's Export. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Roger Newsome said: I didn't have to worry about that drinking tins of McEwan's Export. 😃 Ah yes, my usual tipple when I used to commute between Surrey and Waterloo, many moons ago. It seemed to be the standard beer on British Rail. In a red, and therefore, port coloured can. It helped get me through the interminable delays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Roger Newsome said: I didn't have to worry about that drinking tins of McEwan's Export. 😃 You mean red grenades shippers ....only 4 quid for four at a well know supeemarket😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayprit Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 The way I remember it is, Port has only 4 letters...……………...and Left has only 4 letters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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