Flyboy3394 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Beginning a new build thread for my Trumpeter SU-33 Flanker D. I will be doing a gear down, on the deck build. Only aftermarket parts I will use is the Eduard colored PE cockpit set, for displays and seatbelts, etc. I will use the MIG SU-33 paint set for the external camo, and some various MM enamels for the LG bays and wheels. Exhausts will be painted using Alclad metallics. Most of the bits collected. This is my second SU-33 build, the first being a Zvezda SU-33 in 1/72, painted in a fictional splinter camo scheme. Thanks for having a look! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Pulling up a chair - waiter! Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Looks nice! Håkan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thud4444 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I'm curious to see how the Mig paints hold up to the AKAN sets - the colors are quite different between them, even when taking the early and late Su-33 schemes in account. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy3394 Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, Hook said: I'm curious to see how the Mig paints hold up to the AKAN sets - the colors are quite different between them, even when taking the early and late Su-33 schemes in account. Cheers, Andre I am also curious about this. Procuring the MIG paints were far easier than the Akan set, so I opted for that route. I am hoping they come out ok. ill spray some tester spoons beforehand to do a color check. I do really like the lack of a need to thin the MIG paints for airbrush, as I hate messing up ratios and then having to clean the AB completely before continuing. Additionally I just bought a new Badger Krome for detail painting (gonna try preshading for the first time). I do have a question for all here... For the intakes, what color is the internal area supposed to be? Should they match the bottom of the fuselage? That slightly blue/grey color? Or white? Cannot seem to find any close up ref. photos. Edited May 16, 2018 by Flyboy3394 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) The insides of the intakes on Flankers (incl Su-33) is medium to dark grey - with the outer colour extending inside the intake lip. Although not Su-33's this photos (found on t'interweb) shows the scheme..... ....as does this..... They are awkward to do - so I usually paint my intakes medium grey before assembly - then mask off the grey areas and assemble the intakes - with care you can then poke inside the intakes with tweezers and peel of the masking tape at the end of the build. Ken Edited May 16, 2018 by Flankerman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy3394 Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 49 minutes ago, Flankerman said: The insides of the intakes on Flankers (incl Su-33) is medium to dark grey - with the outer colour extending inside the intake lip. Although not Su-33's this photos shows the scheme..... ....as does this..... They are awkward to do - so I usually paint my intakes medium grey before assembly - then mask off the grey areas and assemble the intakes - with care you can then poke inside the intakes with tweezers and peel of the masking tape at the end of the build. Ken Thanks for the advice Ken! What is your preferred medium gray in this situation? Ive got a lot of greys in MM enamels, gunship grey, R.N. Dark Grey, dark gull, dark ghost, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Very nice set @Flyboy3394, looking forward for your build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy3394 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) And we're off! Cockpit tub, display and inner/upper fuselage painted in MM Flanker Blue Grey: Hard to see the blue/grey here, as the red really pops out far more. Red was MM Insignia Red enamel. I stupidly forgot the front gear bay, so I will have to go back tonight and finish that. Next is the exhaustr intakes: Done in MM Gunship Grey enamel. Maybe a bit too dark but oh well, itll pop! I forgot to take pictures of the bits painted black, including the ejector seats, tailhook (base color) and intaKe panels (base to be dry brushed with silver once cured). I did get my Eduard PE cockpit set! So that will go on once the paint cures over the weekend. The detail looks superb and I look forward to having a nice detailed cockpit! Also got my canopy masks from Eduard: Next up: continuing to build the wings, landing gear, and weapons while the enamel paint cures and dries. So far so good! Fingers crossed for the rest. Edited May 17, 2018 by Flyboy3394 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Nice start! Looking good! Håkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy3394 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Question: Before gluing in my PE set into the cockpit, do I need to scrap down the existing buttons/ display monitors/guages to fit the PE in a realistic looking manner? Or should i just glue it directly on top of the features as the exist now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I think scraping off the old details is needed, to make it look good. Håkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Azgaron said: I think scraping off the old details is needed, to make it look good. Either that, or replace the panel with a flat piece of styrene and save the original part for the spares box. Otherwise, the PE will stand proud. Cheers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy3394 Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Update: Began the PE process. First I cut off bits of the tub and scraped down the detail inside (not shown): Next I placed the PE bits in: Color does not match unfortunately. Not sure what I can do about this now..... Then the pedals were inserted (terribly difficult to bend and work with these): The display came out really nicely: I am now working on the HUD, ejector seat (adding seatbelts and armrests) and working on all other major detail bits in the cockpit. It is definitely already looking a whole lot better than my last SU33.... Stay Tuned.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Nice work! That's usually? the problem with Eduards precolored sets. They seem to have their own ideas on which colors the cockpit have. Håkan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy3394 Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Azgaron said: Nice work! That's usually? the problem with Eduards precolored sets. They seem to have their own ideas on which colors the cockpit have. Håkan Yeah that isnt even remotely similar to the flanker cockpit colors. Its more pruple than anything. Any suggestions on how to blend it into the tub? I have a couple bottles of clear blue I could mist over it all. Alclad transparent blue and Tamiya clear blue. Maybe that'd help? Edited May 22, 2018 by Flyboy3394 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 The easiest way is to live with the wrong color (if you can't beat them - join them ) and find a color that match and paint the rest of the cockpit in that color. If it's "just" knobs and raised detail, I'd try and repaint in correct color and pick out/dry brush detail. Håkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy3394 Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Azgaron said: The easiest way is to live with the wrong color (if you can't beat them - join them ) and find a color that match and paint the rest of the cockpit in that color. If it's "just" knobs and raised detail, I'd try and repaint in correct color and pick out/dry brush detail. Håkan Good points, but I have already installed the PE and committed. Maybe a dark wash would cover up a lot of the differences? poo-poo. Knew the pre colored one was too good to be true! I have a couple bottles of clear blue I could mist over it all. Alclad transparent blue and Tamiya clear blue. Maybe that'd help? Edited May 22, 2018 by Flyboy3394 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Perhaps, only one way to find out though! I hope it works, if you try! Håkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy3394 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) Tonight was less productive: I did get the intake sections built: I managed to get the seatbelts on there, man was that a pain. Still have the lower ones to install and a myriad of other PE bits. Really tough to work with in this scale. I built the frame for the HUD: All my time was devoted to the PE so very little other progress was made.... Till next time. Edited May 23, 2018 by Flyboy3394 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Nice work! PE sure is fiddly! Håkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 A bit late for Flyboy - but a Su-33 cockpit looks like this (please excuse my bare knees!)...... Pale blue-grey (I add a few drops of medium grey to a tin of Hulmbrol Luftwaffe Helblau) The same colour is used on all Russian AF Flankers. Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy3394 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Flankerman said: A bit late for Flyboy - but a Su-33 cockpit looks like this (please excuse my bare knees!)...... Pale blue-grey (I add a few drops of medium grey to a tin of Hulmbrol Luftwaffe Helblau) The same colour is used on all Russian AF Flankers. Ken Appreciate the input Ken! Ordinarily, I would utilize this colorway, but it seems that the PE set does not match. Not really sure its worth scrapping everything and reverting to decals or another PE set thats unpainted.... Perhaps using a clear blue would get it closer to the proper shade.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstorin Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Yea, Eduard is notorious for getting the colors wrong. Dream models makes a Su-33 cockpit set in 1/72 and 1/48 that is almost a perfect match. Here's a link to a 1/72 one on eBay, unfortunately it is for the Hasegawa kit. They don't seem to make one for the Trumpeter kit. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dream-Model-72016-1-72-Su-33-Flanker-Cockpit-Color-Etching-Parts-for-Hasegawa/372302269283?hash=item56aef1cb63:g:ymQAAOSwQPlV9tFQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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