Pappy Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) On 6/1/2018 at 3:38 PM, CliffB said: Superb work Pappy. Your weapons bay shows PE at its best. Cliff Thanks very much Cliff On 6/2/2018 at 1:25 PM, trickyrich said: gee that weapons bay looks amazing, very subtle use of the wash, perfect. I like your clever engineering solution. What you can do if you find you're running out of hands to hold things while drying is to spot glue them or tack them in place first with tiny spots of CA cement. I do it all the time, it pretty much guarantees it'll stay in the right spot while gluing, plus it allows you to close things up in the test fitting stage without having to be an octopus. Yeah I know but sometimes I just get carried away instead of thinking about the assembly sequence logically. I am not a smart man but I can lift heavy things! G'day people, Well, I have managed to get the fuselage nearly together, I still need to clean up the seam on the canopy. Kinetic provide the canopy very unhelpfully in two parts, no doubt to capture the bulged windows. The seam between the two front windows will proved very tricky as there is not much frame material separating the clear sections. The upper fuselage has several sink marks corresponding to the location of the alignment pins which will require some putty to remedy, otherwise the fit is not too bad. The fuselage underside went together without any hassles other than having to take care around the large dome The only niggles I had were with the nosecone which needed a small smear of putty to fair in the lower left side And the tail. Kinetic have molded the fin trailing edge integral to the right fuselage half, which means that they can achieve a commendably thin training edge, however, the seam on the left side of the fin is pretty deep. The seam also passes through the rudder trim tab but also extends vertically above and below it which will require additional filling to eliminate and some re-scribing to restore lost panel lines Right side Left side The putty is there because I slipped with I slipped with the scriber and now need to re-scribe this line. Shown dry fitted below, the fit of the wings is also very good, I think you could almost paint these separately and add them at the end of the build - almost that is except the wing underside is a little too gappy for my liking Meanwhile I have been busy working on the undercarriage. I swapped out the kit wheels with resin items as I really hate the Kinetic 'wheel sandwich' method of construction. Main gear bays received some light weathering after some small details were picked out. The U/C doors have also been painted up cheers, Pappy Edited June 3, 2018 by Pappy 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 G'day people, The fuselage is nearly done. The seams have behaved and I only need to re-scribe a few lines before the canopy can be added and I can call the fuselage done In the meanwhile, I drilled out the exhaust stubs and attached the engine nacelles to the inner wing sections. It looks like the openings will need some cleaning up! The fit of the nacelles is generally good, however the sections near the wing leading edges have some decent gaps I also managed to get some fun stuff done, tin fish anyone? cheers, Pappy 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 it's always great to see your updates, it's a privilege to see some fine modelling work in action! those fish look awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 6/14/2018 at 8:51 AM, trickyrich said: it's always great to see your updates, it's a privilege to see some fine modelling work in action! those fish look awesome. G'day Rich, Thanks very much. G'day people, I have been working on the inner wing sections today. The underside nacelle to wing joins are not too bad The upper wing join will need a second application of putty to eliminate 'ghost' seams due to putty shrinkage I also noticed that the upper surface of the inner left flap has a weird 'step' moulded into it. I hadn't noticed it earlier and I would have preferred to deal with it before attaching the engine nacelle, but I will just need to get on with it now. Meanwhile the canopy is being difficult as every time I start to get the centre seam close to smooth, the canopy splits :( Oh well, hopefully the fifth time is the charm! cheers, Pappy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 can you add a thin bit of plastic strip to give it some strength? Say 10x30 or 40? You should be able to hide it in that section. I have to say , why can't resin models be moulded that nicely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 10:52 PM, trickyrich said: can you add a thin bit of plastic strip to give it some strength? Say 10x30 or 40? You should be able to hide it in that section. I have to say , why can't resin models be moulded that nicely! G'day Rich, Thanks for the suggestion. That would probably work but I just used some thin cement but made sure the two halves were clamped better this time instead of relying on capillary action alone. Well that seems to have done the trick because the canopy seam has now been treated and the assembly has dipped in Future to restore clarity and shine. cheers, Pappy 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 G'day people, Well, after wrestling the canopy seam into submission, I am ready to move on. This aircraft is a natural tail sitter (in real life too in the engines were removed!) so I have I have added about 15g of lead sinkers to the engine nacelles in area behind each engine I have added about 45g of lead sinkers to the area immediately behind the cockpit. Of course I should have done this before I joined the fuselage together but I am actually an idiot. It was a tricky affair and I had to remove one of the seats to get sufficient access but I managed in the end. There is also the problem that there is no detail whatsoever aft of the cockpit bulkhead and you can see straight back to the tail if you shine a light into the cockpit. I decided to cut a small piece of black foam into the shape of the doorway but slightly oversized and then pushed this into the opening. It won't stand close scrutiny but will fool the casual observer. Finally, I had a quick rummage through the spares box to find something suitable to add as the joystick controller for the wing mounted searchlight. I found something, I dunno what it is from but it will do! The overhead panel was attached to the cockpit and the PE parts for the escape hatches were added using small drops of CA. One of the great things about dipping canopies in Future is that it resists CA fogging. A final dry fit to make sure all the bits will play nice together winning :) 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJP Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Fabulous job on the cockpit & that is a great tip on Future and CA glue - any advice on where you buy Future in Australia? CJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 that cockpit looks so good, I know I keep saying that, but it does. Can you by Future here??? The closest I've come to finding anything like it is called "Long Life", a "self shining floor polish". It appears to be something similar (I think) to Future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 6 hours ago, CJP said: Fabulous job on the cockpit & that is a great tip on Future and CA glue - any advice on where you buy Future in Australia? CJP 1 hour ago, trickyrich said: that cockpit looks so good, I know I keep saying that, but it does. Can you by Future here??? The closest I've come to finding anything like it is called "Long Life", a "self shining floor polish". It appears to be something similar (I think) to Future. Nup. there are very similar products available as Rich has said, but I bought mine from Walmart. the parent company has apparently changed the formula now, it probably still works the same but I am still on my first bottle - a little goes a long way etc. cheers, Pappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 G'day people, A little more progress today. The wing mounted searchlight has finally been closed up The reflector dish had some PE elements added. These parts were small, it was like trying to assemble a small PE spider, but I got there eventually Next up, I replaced the kit supplied dump masts with some bent pieces of brass tubing. The kit parts are supposed to be butt glued, which means that they would sit at the wrong angle and be at risk of breaking off. I drilled a hole and used some CA to attach the tubes Turning my attention back to the fuselage, I hollowed out the rudder actuator and added a small PE part Still on the fuselage, more lumps and bumps have been added. Some of these are not mentioned in the instructions but my references show they are present Final dry fit before masking cheers, Pappy 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Gosh your attention to detail with this build is amazing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I'm interested in the comment about a casual observer looking behind the cockpit. My wife's a casual observer and wouldn't know if the wing was on upside down. Colin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Missed this one going along, but the level of detail that you have put into this is absolutely superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/11/2018 at 4:09 PM, Jabba said: Missed this one going along, but the level of detail that you have put into this is absolutely superb. G'day Jabba, welcome to the WIP. G'day people, unfortunately I did not get this one finished in time for the "Carriers Ahoy!" GB, but nevertheless, work continues. I have managed to get a base white down over the main components The engine nacelles were first up and the paint went on smoothly. I used a flat white acrylic followed by buffing with sanding pads to bring up the sheen Likewise the outer wing sections I also replaced what I think are the secondary rudder hinges? The S-2 is unusual in that it has a double hinged rudder (as well as a rudder trim tab). There is a large actuator om the left side of the rudder. I suspect that this moves the whole rudder and the two smaller sections are hinges for the aft section? In any case they are evident in my reference pics so I added them. Finally, the upper fuselage aerials have been added and the canopy has been sprayed black (interior colour) before the grey is applied, cheers, Pappy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Drover Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 That's really nice work Pappy. Good pick-up on the rudder actuators and the other detail work too. Never mind not finishing it for the GB, I think I'm 0 from 3 for the ones I've signed up for. Hope all is well down south. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 This is going to look gorgeous. You have me itching to get back to my build. Martian 👽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rui Silva Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) Hi Pappy, Great WIP, one month ago I bought the same kit and then Eduard's Big Sin set and a ton of Quickboost resin stuff. DMold has forward fuselage and engine nacelles correction sets but availability of this is uncertain, I'll just keep waiting and looking now and then at the website. Keep up the good work! Edited July 20, 2018 by Rui Silva spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Excellent work so far! Looks great! Håkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggu Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'm very late to this party, I will sit in the back and take notes, I was thinking of possibly doing one of our birds in Canadian colors......it would have to be the other kit though...... but never the less, you are doing a masterful job of this kit, and I must confess, I haven't heard much good about it... fit wise especially, but this thread will be one to keep for reference.... I love the cockpit work, and your P/E work is exceptional...... the weapons bay is awesome..... I wonder, IF you get time and a chance, to get a list of the after market stuff you used, I know about most of the p/e, just the resin wheels? I am watching with great interest........ Jeff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) On 7/20/2018 at 2:24 PM, Mick Drover said: That's really nice work Pappy. Good pick-up on the rudder actuators and the other detail work too. Never mind not finishing it for the GB, I think I'm 0 from 3 for the ones I've signed up for. Hope all is well down south. Mick 21 hours ago, Martian Hale said: This is going to look gorgeous. You have me itching to get back to my build. Martian 👽 well martian, don't let me stop you 18 hours ago, Rui Silva said: Hi Pappy, Great WIP, one month ago I bought the same kit and then Eduard's Big Sin set and a ton of Quickboost resin stuff. DMold has forward fuselage and engine nacelles correction sets but availability of this is uncertain, I'll just keep waiting and looking now and then at the website. Keep up the good work! I saw the Dmold stuff, and I thought about buying it, but this was supposed to be a quick and easy build (ha!) for the GB, so I did not want to wait and to be honest, until I saw the correction set, I didn't realise there was a problem. I agree that the kit has errors which these sets correct, but I can live with the kit shapes, but totally understand if someone feels the need to be absolutely accurate. 17 hours ago, Azgaron said: Excellent work so far! Looks great! Håkan 15 hours ago, Biggu said: I'm very late to this party, I will sit in the back and take notes, I was thinking of possibly doing one of our birds in Canadian colors......it would have to be the other kit though...... but never the less, you are doing a masterful job of this kit, and I must confess, I haven't heard much good about it... fit wise especially, but this thread will be one to keep for reference.... I love the cockpit work, and your P/E work is exceptional...... the weapons bay is awesome..... I wonder, IF you get time and a chance, to get a list of the after market stuff you used, I know about most of the p/e, just the resin wheels? I am watching with great interest........ Jeff.... I honestly don't remember what brand they were, but I am sure a search for '1/48 S-2E Tracker + resin wheels' will yield results. Although Kinetic/Italeri is the only 1/48 game in town (as far as I ma aware) unless Collectaire or some other exotica exists for quarter scale Trackers, yet the resin wheel hubs need to be enlarged to fit the kit undercarriage axles. Not a difficult task by any means and the resin items look to be based on the kit items, so it was a little surprising that the hole was not the same size. I have found the fit to vary between good and excellent for the most part, the majority of filler has been used to fill small depressions and sink marks over locating pins and the odd smear of filler here and there. What I do agree with is that there could have been more detail provided, especially in the usual focal areas of the cockpit, undercarriage bays, search light and weapons bay. Whilst the view into the cockpit is limited, you can still see a surprising amount, but there is nothing beyond the cockpit bulkhead as already mentioned and the weapons bay is also completely devoid of detail. The Mk.44 (?) torpedo's help but if you use the PE set, you will not be able to fit both, probably just as well, as you would be obscuring a lot of that lovely detail. The torps also look like they have the protective shipping covers installed over the twin screws. These would be removed before loading. I did not correct this because time was a factor, but now I may re-visit this. The u/c bays are adequate if you don't plan of turning the kit upside down for a look but the search light pod is also completely devoid of detail, even though a very nice and clear lens is provided. cheers, Pappy Edited July 21, 2018 by Pappy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 2:24 PM, Mick Drover said: That's really nice work Pappy. Good pick-up on the rudder actuators and the other detail work too. Never mind not finishing it for the GB, I think I'm 0 from 3 for the ones I've signed up for. Hope all is well down south. Mick G'day Mick, I think I may be a 'serial starter', there should a be a group for this, hi everyone, my name is Pappy and I am a serial starter. I hope you guys are toasty up there, because it is bloody cold down here, but otherwise, all is well, I have three hobby shops within 30mins and found local model group - winning! cheers, Pappy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolay Polyakov Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Awesome build @Pappy! Your paint technique is amazed me... Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashman Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Good to see you active again, Pappy Hope the job is going well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rui Silva Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Hi Pappy and Biggu, Just to inform you of what aftermarket is available for this kit (and the extent of my AMS disease...) here you have a list of what I bought: Eduard Big Ed 4965 Aires 4593 S-2F wheels and paint masks Attack Squadron 48006 US Navy Mk 54 Depth Charges Aerobonus 480050 US Navy Mk 44 torpedoes Quickboost 48512 S2F engines Quickboost 48483 S2F exhaust Quickboost 48508 S2F intakes Quickboost 48569 S2F propellers with tool Quickboost 48531 S2F pylons Quickboost 48530 S2F tail wheel Quickboost 48529 S2F radar I don't know if the Mk 54 depth charges were still used by the S-2E Tracker, can anyone help me on this question? Rui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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