Sturmovik Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I´m travelling to Europe in a couple of months, and I have the opportunity to buy either Italeri´s Nesher/Dagger or Kinetic´s Mirage IIIE/O/R/RD/EE/EA. Since the Italeri one has the decals I want (and it´s cheaper), what are your opinions on that kit regarding its fit and the need to fill and sand seams (and other type of details you guys may have). The Kinetic is, as stated, an option, but it doesn´t have the decals I want and it´s twice the price of the Italeri one. Good night, read you tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jure Miljevic Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Good morning Sturmovik I do not know about Kinetic kit but I built two Esci Mirage kits (Mirage III CJ and Mirage III EO) decades ago. Apparently Italeri editions are repacked Esci kit. Both kits have raised panels, cockpit interior is almost not-existent (decals for instrumental and side panels, somewhat basic ejection seat etc.) undercarriage is a bit short on details and wheel wells are a bit too shallow. I am not quite certain but I believe intakes on III E kit end with plastic wall and on III C with a hole into fuselage or vice versa (or this is the case with Esci Kfir kit?). Not surprisingly, Pitot tube is too thick. Exhaust is very basic and much too shallow. On upper surface some filling and sanding is needed on wings/fuselage seams. If I would build these kits again, I would buy a decent AM cockpit and Pitot tube, perhaps scratch break lines on undercarriage legs and in wheel wells, and hide non-existent intakes and exhaust interiors with covers. Not much, but I hope it helps. Cheers Jure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boman Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 As Jure stated, it is a bit on the basic side, but can be built into a nice model. Given that the price is not far from aftermarket decals, I suggest you buy it. If you like it you can build it into a nice model, if not you have spare decals for when you want to build a really nice Nesher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hothersall Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I built one as part of a club build, I found it to be a nice enjoyable build for a 1:48 kit. I usually build 1:72. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 The Kinetic kit may be twice the price but is IMHO well worth the price difference. The Italeri kit is a rebox of the old Esci kit with the addition of some new parts for the different radomes. raised panel lines on most parts and IIRC recessed on the new ones. Detail is the same as in the original Esci kit, that is basic, very basic. The new decal sheet looks nice and features some interesting subjects. I can't comment on the accuracy of the decals but as is usual with Italeri they only really supply the main stencils. Fit is decent, the plastic is a bit flimsy so some care is needed and the wing-fuselage seam may require a bit of filler.. but really most Mirage kits suffer from this. This is really a case of getting what you pay for, the Italeri kit is not expensive but the plastic itself is not up to what we expect today. The Kinetic kit costs more but is in a different league. If you just want a 1/48 Mirage III with the markings you like, then the Italeri kit makes sense. If you want a good Mirage III model, then you'll need a lot of work and money to bring the Italeri kit to the level of the Kinetic offering. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boman Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Buy the Italeri kit, get the decals for free then buy the Kinetic and kit-bash as you see fit. In the end you have 2 nice models https://www.italeri.com/scheda.asp?idProdotto=2191 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Many thanks to all those who answered, really appreciate it. @Boman I guess I´ll do as you say and buy both, my wallet won´t be happy about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) Go for the Kinetic kit ! It is the much more modern and better kit! There is a Latin American boxing.... Or alternativly search for the boxing from Wingman Models.... probably the best, though expensive option ! Edited May 4, 2018 by exdraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boman Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Wingman is Kinetic kit, but with resin accessories. Too expensive in my mind, then it's better to go with a cheaper alternative as I already suggested. Best thing is you get 2 kits..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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