Stephen Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, exdraken said: Wonder what really was the problem for not putting it into production! The real thing I mean.... Where to put sqaudron colors like some crossbones, skulls or cats???? On the outer wings bottom?? Probably on the doors like the B-2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Stephen said: Probably on the doors like the B-2. If I recall, both the German and Italian Tornado sported a large black panther painted on the top surfaces of the aircraft. Maybe paint squadron insignia on the top/bottom surfaces? Plenty of space! Something like a Romulan bird of prey on the undersides would be awfully smart!🤔 Allan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k5054nz Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) On 10/12/2018 at 6:23 PM, exdraken said: Wonder what really was the problem for not putting it into production! The real thing I mean.... From memory the lawsuits over the whole debacle only finished a few years ago - Wikipedia says 2014! Dick Cheney is the one who cancelled it, the Wiki page is worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_A-12_Avenger_II Edited October 14, 2018 by k5054nz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMSLion Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 1:23 AM, exdraken said: Wonder what really was the problem for not putting it into production! The real thing I mean.... Money. A-12 was intended to be an acquisition reform, with the development done on a firm, fixed price. The McDonnell-Douglas/GD team were running a year (or more) behind schedule, a billion dollars over cost, and they and the program management had just told SECDEF Cheney they were on cost and schedule. My personal opinion is that Cheney was provided bad legal advice. He tried to cancel for cause, but the vendors were not yet technically in breach of contract. And it went through a 20-year series of lawsuits...by the end of which, the value of the money in question had been reduced to a handful of Super Hornets (Boeing having inherited MDD's side of the lawsuit) and some submarine construction credits (from GD's side). One of the other problems was that U.S. acquisition laws of the period did not allow cost as an independent variable. The Government could not go to the contractors and say, "What can you give us for $3 billion in RDT&E costs?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 For my posts on the A-12 end game, see https://thanlont.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-12-avenger-ii-program-fat-lady.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) New boxing/variant - ref. UA48002 Source: https://www.facebook.com/Modelcollect/posts/1154431374711961 Quote modelcollect will make it in 1/48 scale V.P. Edited November 26, 2018 by Homebee 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Homebee said: New boxing/variant - ref. Source: https://www.facebook.com/Modelcollect/posts/1154431374711961 V.P. 😃I have got to get me some of these! Doubtless the nay sayers will have a field day bewailing the "waste of resources on fictional tosh" (or words to that effect) but, I love this type of model. Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony.t Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Albeback52 said: 😃I have got to get me some of these! Doubtless the nay sayers will have a field day bewailing the "waste of resources on fictional tosh" (or words to that effect) but, I love this type of model. Allan I'm one of them. Why waste CAD talent on fictitious cr@pski when we could have something real like a Star Wars X-wing 😜 Tony 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wintintin Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Really looking forward to it.😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) Fresh news with 3D design update. Source: https://www.facebook.com/Modelcollect/posts/1172870822868016 V.P. Edited August 10, 2023 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I love this company!! Several very tasty items on their Face Book page for forthcoming projects.. They'll definitely be getting a lot of my money in future - particularly the Fist of War vehicles. I don't have any problem with subjects like the A-12 or, the fictitious subjects. They're as valid a choice as any Sci Fi subject and, hardly anybody seems to complain about THEM! Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.sin Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) On 11/9/2018 at 8:47 AM, tony.t said: I'm one of them. Why waste CAD talent on fictitious cr@pski when we could have something real like a Star Wars X-wing 😜 Edited December 6, 2018 by B.sin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Since the other thread is locked down, I guess I have to point it out here. The A-12 Oxcart and A-12 Avenger are not the same aeroplane, so this thread really isn't applicable to a (potential) family of SR-71-related kits. Yeah, it's entirely possible that someone heard Modelcollect were doing an A-12 (Avenger) and started a Scalemates page for an A-12 (Oxcart) by mistake, but it's just as likely that Modelcollect are, in fact, doing both subjects. Either way, clearly there is a rumour that Modelcollect are tooling an A-12 Oxcart, and it seems pretty premature to lock the other thread down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 As long as they don't model it off the mock-up.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Turk Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) On 12/6/2018 at 12:36 AM, Homebee said: Fresh news with 3D design update. Source: https://www.facebook.com/Modelcollect/posts/1172870822868016 I’m looking forward to seeing this one. Mark Edited August 4, 2023 by Mark Turk 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air one Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Hi! Latest info from Modelcollect when asked about the status of this project : « dear sir sorry for the trouble, the project is delayed. best regards jiangwei Li modelcollect » Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Air one said: Hi! Latest info from Modelcollect when asked about the status of this project : « dear sir sorry for the trouble, the project is delayed. best regards jiangwei Li modelcollect » Now, there's a surprise!😕 Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Fresh news Source: https://www.facebook.com/Modelcollect/posts/1729523170536109 Quote modelcollect 1/48 A-12 project started, its will be first aircraft made 100% by ourself factory, NOT OEM, QUALITY under control. V.P. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.sin Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Homebee said: Fresh news Source: https://www.facebook.com/Modelcollect/posts/1729523170536109 V.P. YES!!! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 This is one I've been looking forward to for a long time. I'm anxious to see how this develops. Yes, it's a big model and I probably won't buy and build more than one. But it's definitely different and should stand out in a collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Club Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I hope they will scale down it in 1/72 scale ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Violet Club said: I hope they will scale down it in 1/72 scale ! For your sake and that of many other 1/72 scalers, I hope so too. With a 10+" wing span, it'd be a pretty good sized model in that scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMSLion Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I'm surprised they aren't doing 1/72 scale first. But I'm a firm believer that a model should fit onto a rectangle of 225 square inches (15 x 15). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.sin Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) Looks like this kit is on preorder at luckymodels!🙂 Edited January 8, 2021 by B.sin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, B.sin said: Looks like this kit is no preorder at luckymodels!🙂 https://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=MC-UA48001 V.P. Edited January 8, 2021 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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