Martian Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Norman said: Okee Dokey then So the windows........how and when will you install these Martian , no doubt you have a cunning plan The cunning plan is to install them directly after fitting the curtain fixings. Not very cunning really is it? Martian 👽 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Well knowing you from what I've seen on this site I'd say yes.......it is most likely a cunning well thought out plan , and one i am keen to see unfold Good luck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Norman said: Well knowing you from what I've seen on this site I'd say yes.......it is most likely a cunning well thought out plan , and one i am keen to see unfold Good luck Then see it unfold or possibly unravel you shall! Martian 👽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 3:06 PM, Martian Hale said: That's easy when you have extra pair of eyes on the top of your head ! Oh thank God those were eyes... On 6/4/2018 at 11:47 PM, Martian Hale said: can't see how I can better @TheBaron's technique on his Boxcar build. Much as I'd like to claim credit Martian the cigarette paper was - as in so many things - an @hendie suggestion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Much as I'd like to claim credit Martian the cigarette paper was - as in so many things - an @hendie suggestion. I stand corrected. Martian 👽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 hours ago, TheBaron said: Oh thank God those were eyes... He's got them on the back too: Eyes in the back of his head by Ced Bufton, on Flickr 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 10:38 AM, Martian Hale said: Planet Mercury, a place that does not spin on it's axis so that one side is boiling hot so that beer would evaporate immediately and the other so cold that it would freeze in an instant! So, its be a fine line between getting roasted & freezing yer gooleys off, doesn't sound like somewhere I'd want to go for the hols. Steve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 There's a fair few regular miscreants in the pictures Ced took at Telford No prizes for names... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 16 hours ago, perdu said: There's a fair few regular miscreants in the pictures Ced took at Telford No prizes for names... Weren't you one of the usual suspects? Martian 👽 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 Weren't we trying to get a model built somewhere? Yes, I remember! I decided that after all it might be easier to get the cabin windows fitted before the curtain fittings so as to prevent my clumsy tentacles knocking them off as I tried to fit the windows. The kit parts fit reasonably well, being just a tad on the loose side. Having masked off the inside faces of the transparencies, Tamiya quick setting extra thin cement soon saw the windows securely attached. One could leave the windows as fitted and get a more than reasonable result but the odd miniscule gap here and there were bugging me. Fortunately I have a cunning plan for such situations (you were right after all Norman). Satisfied that the windows were sufficiently cured, I proceeded to smear a layer of thin CA over them. As soon as this had set, I then proceeded to sand the windows until they were completely flush with the fuselage exterior. Once this was achieved, I micromeshed the windows through progressive grits down to 12,000. This was followed by a vigorous polishing with Novus polishing fluid using the Dremel with a polishing wheel attached. Although I would not recommend this process to anyone who harbours any doubts whatsoever as to their ability to bring the clear parts back to their original clarity and lustre, I feel it has improved the overall look of the model and as such well worth the effort. Hopefully the pictures show what I have been waffling on about. The shine on the fuselage has made t somewhat difficult to photograph so please feel free to ask any questions about the process. Thanks for looking Martian 👽 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just two pieces of very shiny plastic... Migod don't they look beautiful just like that Yes Martian I am indeed there, the one of whom it must be said " Bill you look exactly like your dad from that angle" Scary isn't it, I'm growing into my old dad as I get more and more worn out... Of course the redheaded Morrigan was hiding my more 'handsome' bits from the camera, I know this is true Ced didn't have to buy himself a new camera 😉 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, perdu said: Just two pieces of very shiny plastic... Migod don't they look beautiful just like that Thanks Bill, fourteen bits of very shiny plastic as it happens but I felt it important to illustrate this step to show that with a bit of care and taking things very slowly, it can be done. If at any time I found myself starting to speed up with fitting the windows, I forced myself to walk away from the model for a while as I did not want to risk breaking the clear parts or, as I very nearly managed, losing some to the carpet monster. Very much a case of "slowly, slowly catchee Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Trall" or whatever your Earthling equivalent of the saying might be. Martian 👽 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 You did WHAT??!! CA over the windows? Good grief, that's very brave... But the results speak for themselves - lovely, flush, shiny windows. Stored for future use, thanks Martian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Kay Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, CedB said: You did WHAT??!! CA over the windows? Good grief, that's very brave... I have to agree. However, a friend of mine has just discovered the hobby of pen turning. Using CA dribbled on and polished while the barrels are spinning on the lathe is the recognised method of sealing and varnishing. Colour me surprised, as I wouldn't have thought to use the stuff for varnish. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, CedB said: You did WHAT??!! CA over the windows? Good grief, that's very brave... But the results speak for themselves - lovely, flush, shiny windows. Stored for future use, thanks Martian Thanks Ced, it is important to do the sanding and polishing before the CA is fully cured and is still relatively soft. Otherwise one has to sand much more aggressively and run the risk of the clear plastic crazing or cracking. 4 minutes ago, Heather Kay said: I have to agree. However, a friend of mine has just discovered the hobby of pen turning. Using CA dribbled on and polished while the barrels are spinning on the lathe is the recognised method of sealing and varnishing. Colour me surprised, as I wouldn't have thought to use the stuff for varnish. Thanks Heather, I didn't feel very brave the first time I tried it even though logic told me that it should work. Even now and knowing the technique does work, I am somewhat apprehensive each time I layer on the CA. I too would never have thought about using CA as a varnish though.. Martian 👽 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Very nice and shiny! Even the fuselage I see! Interesting method, I'll try to remember! Håkan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Azgaron said: Very nice and shiny! Even the fuselage I see! Interesting method, I'll try to remember! Håkan Thanks Hakan,. Martian 👽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 8 hours ago, Martian Hale said: Satisfied that the windows were sufficiently cured, I proceeded to smear a layer of thin CA over them. Equally amazed as those above! Most impressed with this idea Martian, and even more impressed that you have taken the leap of faith and proved it can be done. Its always nice to see others explore such methods and succeed, and I will try it one day ............ when I'm feeling especially brave! Terry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Terry1954 said: Equally amazed as those above! Most impressed with this idea Martian, and even more impressed that you have taken the leap of faith and proved it can be done. Its always nice to see others explore such methods and succeed, and I will try it one day ............ when I'm feeling especially brave! Terry Thanks Terry, it is a technique that needs to be tried with a responsible adult to hand. Hang on, where are us lot going to find one of them from? Martian 👽 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Hello Martian, Thanks for the tip and your Bravery under adverse conditions ! Martian Model Warrior Medal for you ! Such an award will surely be delivered by Martian HQ ! Don't you fear about the painting with such a highly polished fuselage ? Whatever, it's a shiny work ! Congrats ! Sincerely. CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 Good point CC. I may prime with Mr Surfacer with some lacquer thinner added. That should bite into the surface a bit. Alternatively, I might prep some spare plastic and see how that works with the various primers I have to hand, I suspect that Halford's auto primer will cut the mustard as well. Fortunately there won't be much masking needed so I'm pretty relaxed about it. Following my experience with the SH-34, Stynylrez will definitely not be getting a run out this time! Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 6:26 PM, perdu said: There's a fair few regular miscreants in the pictures Ced took at Telford No prizes for names... Stop teasing and do share. Thanks for that tip with CA Martian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Scimitar said: Stop teasing and do share. Thanks for that tip with CA Martian. You're welcome Richard. Usual suspects? Lets see, as far as I can remember the Baron was there, General Melchett, Longshanks, Perdu, Corsaircorp was lurking with his bin bag full of Belgian rocket fuel and Ced, EXFAAWAU was about somewhere as well. Is that a motley enough crew for you? Apologies to anyone I may have missed but I had been drinking with CC and a Martian's appetite for the falling over juice is legendary throughout the known universe. Martian 👽 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 The redheaded bird hiding my mush, just left of Tomoshenko will possibly do me harm for calling her a bird Serious bodily harm I wore Blue, Tomo wore gre Claret No further references to Casablanca available............... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Show us the proof otherwise it is all a figment of a vivid imagination. Must have been a blast. I'm jealous! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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