Martian Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 She's looking good Steve. Martian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marklo said: I sort of like rigging( which is just as well considering the types I build these days) Yep - I see a quadruplane is on your workbench at the moment. Do you need counseling? If it was me I would... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: I see a quadruplane is on your workbench at the moment Two actually. You start with biplanes then you need to go up to triplanes to get the same buzz, then before you know it your doing Quadruplanes. 2 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: Do you need counseling? The fact that you should even need to ask 2 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: If it was me I would. Would go back to submarines? Edited March 30, 2020 by Marklo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 Back to submarines! What a good idea! Preferably something modern and teardrop-shaped and streamlined without any damned handrails or aerials or rigging of any description! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: Preferably something modern and teardrop-shaped and streamlined without any damned handrails or aerials or rigging of any description! Be honest a modem nuclear sub would keep you distracted for about 5 minutes. For you I’d consider something like the civil war turtle or the French plongeur Edited March 30, 2020 by Marklo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 At the rate I work ‘Turtle’ seems appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmas Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I've been watching this from the touchline and it's looking really really good. I could never contemplate tackling something such as this. I don't know if a bit of Kipling is in order, but who cares, I'm going to go with it anyway: "By the livin' Gawd that made you, You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Well done on the rigging, Steve. I will come back to it soon I hope. Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Timmas said: "By the livin' Gawd that made you, You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!" Crikey! Kipling. Thanks Mate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Looks very good Steve, the more so as it is a first attempt. Like Ian I push the thread through the holes without a needle, and I use monofilament thread for the rigging and Uschi elastic for the control line - just a personal preference. However your notes are very interesting a hopefully helpful to any other modeller who is tackling rigging for the first time. The wires certainly make your model look very much better (it was already looking very good BTW) - and I am sure that really you are already planning another biplane for the future.... After all things with holes in the back lack a real challenge! P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 The Green, Green, Grass of Home... I'm so confused right now. Things were going wrong with this post from the start and then - I must have pushed some wrong button - this post just 'posted' with only half the pictures present. Anyhow, I've fixed it up now. The Avro now has some green, green, grass to call home. To make a base for your aeroplanes, start with searching second hand shops for a frame about the right size. This one cost two dollars and needed a good sanding... and some wood undercoat. I then sprayed some Tamiya light grey primer on it and cut out a slab of 3mm thick MDF and sat the model on it to make sure it was all in proportion. Looked OK I thought. This green matting came from the model railway section of the local hobby shop but looked far too flat and uniform in colour to ever look like anything other than a billiard table. Modelling tip from a Geologist; Nothing in nature is ever homogenous - so if you are ever modelling a natural surface don't make it uniform or it will look manufactured and unconvincing. In this case the spray on adhesive shown is helpful to overcome the problem. Just spray some onto the billiard table and... sprinkle some of this on. It's coloured flock from the model railway fraternity. It should leave something like this - which is obviously far too green and lumpy. So turn it upside down and shake it to get rid of the lumps and then... tone the colour down a bit by sprinkling some of this on. Grass is rarely completely green so adding some irregular blotches of dryer yellowish grass makes the scene more convincing. I didn't worry about using a static grass applicator as I do not have one and think that anyone that uses one is practicing witchcraft. I thought this looked OK despite just scattering it on. Unless someone has been very diligent mowing this airfield - which seems unlikely in the middle of a World War - there will be some tufts of longer grass. Fortunately this too can be bought. Helpful people these model railway enthusiasts. Stick a few of these tufts down. Remember, clump them together here and there. In nature they will not be evenly distributed. The only drawback with using the spray-on adhesive is that it makes the whole scene permanently 'tacky' since the glue remains sticky and unpleasant to touch. Top Tip though folks; once all the grass is in position spray the whole lot with matt acrylic varnish. This covers and nullifies the spray-on adhesive leaving the surface nice and dry to the touch. Now work out where the aeroplane will sit, make some wheel chocks and glue them into position. Here I've applied some glossy, dark-grey, spray paint to the frame and put the completed item together waiting for the finished model. So now we have a lush green little piece of England (or maybe France or Scotland or Wales) for our Avro to live on. That looks OK to me. Stay with it folks we should be RFI quite soon. Bandsaw Steve 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds. Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 A picture speaks a thousand words. Your 504 is looking superb on that base, a truly beautiful model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 32 minutes ago, Head in the clouds. said: A picture speaks a thousand words. Have another look now mate. I’ve actually finished what I wanted to say now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds. Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 It just gets better.... Nice tip about nullifying the glue, thanks for that nugget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Both the Avro and base are looking fantastic. Great work on the rigging, well smart. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Excellent idea for making a base. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Some good scenic tips there Steve. I've got some Humbrol spray matt varnish that I've resolved never to use on a model after hearing all the frosting horror stories, so now I have a use for it! The 504 and its rigging are looking pretty smart too! Love the scheme with its splash of colour. I have a love-hate relationship with EZ Line. It hates me. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackem01 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 What an epic. Great watch all the way. Thanks for keeping me entertained, I've loved every post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 Ready For Inspection The RFI for this project is now posted and can be found here... Here's a sneak preview of the finished product... I'll be back over the next few days to finish the WIP thread and document how the propeller and impeller were made and some of the steps I took to clean up the damage to the paintwork caused by the rigging fiasco. See you soon... Bandsaw Steve 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Thanks for taking us on this journey Steve, I've learned a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 What a cracking build Mr Bandsaw. That shows what a good imagination, perseverance and patience (plus a smidgeon of invention) can do! Looking forward to your progress on SS Xantho! All the best, Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds. Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 That has to be the most enjoyable WIP I have watched thus far, so much skill and imaginative modelling and all from scratch. Thanks Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 wow. Seems I missed a lot over the last week or two Steve and there was a fair bit to catch up on. Normally I don't need to worry ('cos you're such a slow builder!) but you took me by surprise this time. Great result there. Your scenic base looks really good. You don't fancy building a 3 foot long railway embankment for me do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 01/04/2020 at 22:48, Head in the clouds. said: That has to be the most enjoyable WIP I have watched thus far. Wow thanks! 1 hour ago, hendie said: You don't fancy building a 3 foot long railway embankment for me do you? I would love to! The trick would be getting it to America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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