Marklo Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Biplanes have a certain retro charm, which I love , the 504 looks amazing so far. And as you well know half the fun of scratchbuilding is getting it monumentally wrong then figuring out how to fix it and having that ‘I can’t believe I made that ‘moment. Edited February 4, 2020 by Marklo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marklo said: having that ‘I can’t believe I made that ‘moment. Yep - there are both good and the bad I ‘I can’t believe I made that’ moments. Yesterday’s one was a shocker. 😱 Sanding off the old roundels is complete and I already have the first new coat of white on. Stay tuned folks. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Never thought of it that way but you are so right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Recovery Given everything that's going on in world in the moment it's probably a bit rich that I headed up my last post as 'Disaster'. Upon reflection it seems unlikely that ending up with some wonky roundels on a 1/32 scale biplane constitutes such a big problem - especially since it turns out that I've already fixed it. Start by sanding back the dreadful mess. Re-spray the white. Carefully measure off and cut out the outer limits of the roundel. Mask off the full disk. Spray some home-made PC10 over the disk. Remove the masks to reveal this. This looks promising. Now I had to find some decal film. In this case grass green and then spray it with light-grey primer. For the next step I'm going to use some enamel paint - which is unusual for me - but this layer will need to be waterproof. Spray the blue enamel paint. Let it dry and cut the next two discs. Check their size is correct. Cut a hole in the middle of each disc. This is possibly the trickiest bit because the inner circle has to be nice and concentric with the outer disc. Now just apply this as if it was a normal decal. Just make sure the paint doesn't get scratched. Now do the same thing with the red. Or not... Oh well - just revert to identical discs to those I used in the fuselage roundels. Too small for the wing roundels - but it'll do. I wanna get moving. And now to what I call 'letraset' but is apparently called 'DECAdry' these days. These are dry rub-down decals. All the way from Eckersley's Art Supplies in Adelaide. Sent to me by my work colleague Vanessa. Thanks Vanessa! The masking is there to give me some sort of chance of getting things straight and lined up. Unfortunately there were no spare '7' s. So the busted 7 will have to do. I'll tidy it up with some paint later on. The other side looks OK though. I think I might have got each numeral a bit too far apart but I can live with this. Ah! Looking better I think. Situation recovered. Yep - not perfect perhaps but I'm happy with this. That's it for markings on this job. Undercarriage next. Bandsaw Steve. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) Definitely a big improvement. I did not know that Letraset (sorry Decadry or whatever) was still available - must make a note of that. This is looking very good indeed Steve. P Edited February 9, 2020 by pheonix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Hmm decadry, would explain why the staff in my local art and hobby treated me as if I had two heads when asking for letraset. Great recovery on the roundels, I’ve been having a bad day with my 262, I will take heart from your experience 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Much better Steve! Looks great & well worth the extra effort. 👍👍 John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Good recovery. AW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Roundels look super-sharp. Nice! Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 hours ago, pheonix said: I did not know that Letraset (sorry Decadry or whatever) was still available - must make a not of that. Hi Phoenix, Yep these Letraset-style, dry, rub-down decals seem largely forgotten by the world of modelling, but I find them very useful and have used them in each of my last three projects. They make a really tidy job of lettering. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 nice recovery Sir. The Avro is looking very fine in her plumage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Looking good. 🔴 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds. Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Good work Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 10:22 PM, Bandsaw Steve said: and some bad, bad, awful language was used. I'm ashamed to say that words like 'gosh' and 'jolly cobblers' emanated from my factory. Gidday Steve, 'gosh' I could accept but 'jolly cobblers'? From a gentleman like you? I'm deeply shocked, 😲 and a little disappointed. 😥 At least you didn't say 'Oh, bother!' Oh, and by the way, the model's looking quite good. OK, very good. Alright, superb. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Good recovery with the wing roundels, much better. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Undercarriage and Engine The last time I built a model of an aeroplane it was a jet and it was modelled with the undercarriage up. That way is sensible! In such a case the engine is buried deep inside the fuselage and the wheels and legs and other sticky out things are nicely tucked away. No such luck with this Avro though! It's got bits sticking out everywhere. Fortunately though I have already completed most of the engine and undercarriage work. I did that months ago and all the bits have been sitting waiting in a jar. Now it's just a matter of sticking everything together. Here's where we started. The front end looks a bit bare. So on goes my home-made rotary engine. No oil stains on this yet - probably should have put them on about now before covering it up with a ... vac-formed cowling. The manufacturer of this kit has done a dreadful job; no locating pins and there's a noticeable difference between the diameter of the cowling and the fuselage so there's always going to be a small step there. I'm never going to build one of this company's kits again! Undercarriage went together OK though. It's mostly carbon fibre so it has plenty of strength. The little cone shaped inserts inside the wheels went on nice and tight too. Here the undercarriage is taking the weight of the whole model no sweat at all. Just friction fitted really - only the smallest dabs of two part epoxy was needed to hold this assembly in place. Then it's on to the somewhat more spindly and fiddly undercarriage skid. Here painted with a coat of Tamiya dark yellow with an overcoat of burnt-sienna oil paint to make that nice rich polished wood shade. On with the tail-skid. A quick touch-up of that number 7 that partly came to grief...and... Here she is from behind... but more excitingly... From the front! Starting to look quite complete now. All the major bits except the propeller are now in place. A quick spray of varnish next and then it's some rigging action! Wish me luck. Bandsaw Steve 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Looking great, Steve! 👍 Good luck with with the rigging. BTW, although I thought the kit manufacturer didn't do too bad a job, I'm putting him on notice. John 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Great job so far. I like rigging, when it works, actually a bit like Brussels sprouts, nicest vegetables in the world when done right, the worst when cooked badly..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Not too shoddy at all. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Brilliant. Aircraft with exposed engines and undercarriages are certainly the best. Ones with holes in the back are just plain boring. Never mind about the cowling - nobody will notice. Good luck with the rigging. Pusher next....???? P. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Hi Phoenix, Now that I’m getting close to the end of this project I can confirm that my next build will definitely be a pusher and will have its propeller at the rear... After all, most ships are like that! Steve. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 about bloomin' time. That's all I can say. Worth the wait though. I look forward to your fun and games with the rigging sir! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: Hi Phoenix, Now that I’m getting close to the end of this project I can confirm that my next build will definitely be a pusher and will have its propeller at the rear... After all, most ships are like that! Steve. 🤣 P Edited February 18, 2020 by pheonix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonkaGuy Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I have just spent a long time reading through this, it’s amazing how it has gone from such basic shapes to now. Carry on the great work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHaa Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Steve, Very nice results so fare, I like to see your way of solving all the difficulties ! Which is scratch building all about.....😄 Also thanks for mention Decary, I still have some sheets of Letraset, but are slowly running out of them. I wonder, was printing the wing roundels on your PC not an easier solution. I had to print some large American roundels for my Atlantic C-2A , they were quite large but it worked out well. Good luck with the rigging..! With regards, JohnHaa Edited February 18, 2020 by JohnHaa type error 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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