Ted Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 Thanks Clive, that's a very useful link. The Wikipedia page for the Nieuport 10 shows these images from Nieuport's patent. Between your link and these technical drawings I can probably fake it. On another note, my book says that the Nieuport 12 was built with a transparent covering on the central bit of the upper wing, apparent in the photo below. Seems like a cool feature to try modelling - cool but way more difficult than using a solid piece of plastic with opaque finish like the original airplane at the museum in Ottawa: I really hope that this airplane is displayed on the floor when I go to visit, not suspended 15' in the air. I guess I could get someone to distract the staff while I clamber up to the ceiling to take pictures of the cockpit. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 Started on the middle bit of the upper wing. I didn't have any .03" plastic sheet so I cut up an old credit card. Plastic cement didn't touch it so I had to use thick CA. I figured that the steel rod I use for the aileron controls could also support the wings. I bent and glued styrene rod for the lever arms, drilled a hole through the assembly and pinned it. I broke a couple of the spars so I'll have to repair them before painting. Next step is to figure out where the cabane struts line up with the upper wing and sort out attachment points. Also, I will need to add another steel pin aft to support the wings. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 I also have to figure out what the transparent material was. Couldn't be a polymer, seems too transparent for fabric, I'll have to research what was available in 1916. Then I'll have to sort out what I can use on the model. It has to be flexible to conform to the upper surface without wrinkling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) Wonderful! and I love the picture from Olde Rhinebeck Aerodrome...very happy memories of that place. Edited April 15, 2018 by John D.C. Masters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive_t Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Ted said: Started on the middle bit of the upper wing. I didn't have any .03" plastic sheet so I cut up an old credit card There goes your credit rating Actually, a damned fine idea, definitely nicking that one. If I use the wife's, I'll save even more money! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 Thanks John, I just looked up Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome because I hadn't heard of it. Definitely worth a visit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, clive_t said: There goes your credit rating Actually, a damned fine idea, definitely nicking that one. If I use the wife's, I'll save even more money! After paying for the Evergreen sheets a couple weeks ago I think I'll look for alternatives. Seemed like too much $ for such small sheets. In the city we used to live in there was a good industrial plastic shop that sold large styrene sheets for reasonable prices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive_t Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The clear centre section might have been made from Parkesine. I found this on a plastics web site: "The first man-made plastic, called Parkesine after its inventor Alexander Parkes, is revealed at the Great International Exhibition in London. Created from part of the cell wall of plants (cellulose), Parkesine was transparent, moldable and retained its shape when cooled. The material was touted as able to do anything that natural rubber could—but less expensively." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 Thanks Clive, can't think of what else it could have been other than cellulose. I may try flattening out that Oyamaru silicone I used for moulding the wheels to see if it's flexible and transparent enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 This one’s racing along. Really enjoying watching this Ted - great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry c Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 For clear plastic, I use the package material found on so many products such as batteries. The Nintendo figures had a clear plastic box that was perfect for molding canopies. The price is right as people are throwing the stuff away! Garry c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just found this - mind if I follow along as I too enjoy the challenges offered by scratch building and oyu have some first class ideas her. Some first class modelling too. P 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 5:58 PM, pheonix said: Just found this - mind if I follow along as I too enjoy the challenges offered by scratch building and oyu have some first class ideas her. Some first class modelling too. P Thanks Phoenix, scratchbuilding is fun indeed. Just have to finish the 1/48 Eduard Pfalz I'm working on and then I'll be back to this model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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