Old Viper Tester Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 More from the 65th FWS (pre-1983) and 65th Aggressor Squadron (1983 and after) S/n 74-1529, April 1982. Looks like I missed this one looking for blue bort numbers, so this is a second one appearing at this time. 74-1530, April 1981. Old Lizard scheme. 74-1530, June 1983. I think this is supposed to be the Sand pattern. The fuselage matches well, but the vertical tail not so much. 74-1536, April 1981. Old Ghost scheme. 74-1538, April 1981. Old Ghost scheme. 74-1538, May 1981. Grey 2 scheme. 74-1546, April 1981. Silver scheme. 74-1565, May 1981. Old Blue scheme. 74-1569 February 1981. Old Blue scheme. 74-1569, November 1981. Still in the Old Blue scheme, but the bort number changed to a very dark blue (for contrast with the background color?). Believe it or not, this is 74-1569 again, April 1981. At this time the 57FWW was providing aircraft for the production of a TV movie, "RED FLAG: The Ultimate Game". A terrible movie, pitting an F-4 pilot agains an F-5 pilot with the Red Flag exercise as the backdrop. As I remember, the F-4 guy was trying to come up with the maneuver to defeat the F-5. All very hokey - sort of like putting out the boards and having the guy at your six squirt out in front of you. Yeah, nothing like losing all your energy in the middle of a knife-fight. Anyway, they were using two F-4Es and two F-5Es with duplicated markings so they could film aerial and ground sequences simultaneously. So '1569 got to be the stand-in for 74-1557. 74-1571, February 1981. Grape scheme, with some touch-ups. Thanks for looking Sven 18 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boman Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Nice collection Sven (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 3/26/2018 at 5:18 PM, Old Viper Tester said: More from the 65th FWS (pre-1983) and 65th Aggressor Squadron (1983 and after) 74-1565, May 1981. Old Blue scheme. 74-1569 February 1981. Old Blue scheme. Thanks for looking Sven Hi Sven, I was looking at these two photos and I noticed that the colours look different. Are you sure it's the same FS numbers? Because they look different. To me, only the pattern looks to be the same (Old Blue). Cheers Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Viper Tester Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Shalako said: To me, only the pattern looks to be the same (Old Blue) Correct, it is the same scheme but the darker blue is different. You can see '69 in the background of the '65 shot for comparison under the same conditions. Whether it was done on purpose or not, I couldn't tell you. Sometimes it's a manufacturer's error, either the mix itself or in the labeling, but that didn't seem to stop the paint barn guys from using it back then. We had one jet that was supposed to be in the "Pumpkin" scheme - brown and dark green. It came out of the barn pale yellow and green. The paint guys said the barrels were marked with the FS number specified for the scheme, so that's what they used. It stayed that way for months. Sven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Yowzah- what's not to like? F-5's in any scheme are beautiful! Love the T-Birds T-38's in the background, too! Thanks, Keith! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Hi Sven, Many thanks for the clarification. This kind of things makes our work a bit difficult but nonetheless, that's what I like even if it takes a bit more than usual to finish a kit. Generally speaking, the adversary/aggressor schemes ARE difficult to reproduce when you don't have the FS numbers. (I know, TwoBobs have covered them but, when you have examples as the one I have mentioned, it does take more time to finish a kit) Again, many thanks. Cheers Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I believe the two darkest blues are 35109 and 35190, the latter being the brighter blue. Easy to mix up, I guess! Cheers, Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 "69" has the Old Blue colours (35414/35190/35164/35622 bottom) however, the issue is with the dark colour on the "65" that is supposed to be the 35164 but at least "visually" it's not. It looks more like the 36081. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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