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USAF F-5 Aggressors Part 5


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More from the 65th FWS (pre-1983) and 65th Aggressor Squadron (1983 and after)

 

S/n 74-1529, April 1982. Looks like I missed this one looking for blue bort numbers, so this is a second one appearing at this time.

74-1529 65fws 29 KLSV 19810400 39cr

 

74-1530, April 1981. Old Lizard scheme.

74-1530 65fws 30 KLSV 19810400 04cr

 

74-1530, June 1983. I think this is supposed to be the Sand pattern. The fuselage matches well, but the vertical tail not so much.

74-1530 65fws 30 KLSV 19830610 25cr

 

74-1536, April 1981. Old Ghost scheme.

74-1536 65fws 36 KLSV 19810400 03cr

 

74-1538, April 1981. Old Ghost scheme.

74-1538 65fws 38 KLSV 19810400 07cr

 

74-1538, May 1981. Grey 2 scheme.

74-1538 65fws 38 KLSV 19810500 01cr

 

74-1546, April 1981. Silver scheme.

74-1546 65fws 46 KLSV 19810400 09cr

 

74-1565, May 1981. Old Blue scheme.

74-1565 65fws 65th KLSV 19810600 15cr

 

74-1569 February 1981. Old Blue scheme.

74-1569 65fws 69 KLSV 19810200 17cr

 

74-1569, November 1981. Still in the Old Blue scheme, but the bort number changed to a very dark blue (for contrast with the background color?).

74-1569 65fws 69 19811000 19cr

 

Believe it or not, this is 74-1569 again, April 1981. At this time the 57FWW was providing aircraft for the production of a TV movie, "RED FLAG: The Ultimate Game". A terrible movie, pitting an F-4 pilot agains an F-5 pilot with the Red Flag exercise as the backdrop. As I remember, the F-4 guy was trying to come up with the maneuver to defeat the F-5. All very hokey - sort of like putting out the boards and having the guy at your six squirt out in front of you. Yeah, nothing like losing all your energy in the middle of a knife-fight. Anyway, they were using two F-4Es and two F-5Es with duplicated markings so they could film aerial and ground sequences simultaneously. So '1569 got to be the stand-in for 74-1557.

74-1569 65fws 57 RF movie KLSV 19810400 06cr

 

74-1571, February 1981. Grape scheme, with some touch-ups.

74-1571 65fws 71 KLSV 19810300 34cr

 

Thanks for looking

 

Sven

 

 

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On 3/26/2018 at 5:18 PM, Old Viper Tester said:

 

More from the 65th FWS (pre-1983) and 65th Aggressor Squadron (1983 and after)

 

74-1565, May 1981. Old Blue scheme.

74-1565 65fws 65th KLSV 19810600 15cr

 

74-1569 February 1981. Old Blue scheme.

74-1569 65fws 69 KLSV 19810200 17cr

 

 

Thanks for looking

 

Sven

 

 

Hi Sven,

 

I was looking at these two photos and I noticed that the colours look different. Are you sure it's the same FS numbers? Because they look different.

 

To me, only the pattern looks to be the same (Old Blue).

 

Cheers

 

Bill

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1 hour ago, Shalako said:

To me, only the pattern looks to be the same (Old Blue)

Correct, it is the same scheme but the darker blue is different. You can see '69 in the background of the '65 shot for comparison under the same conditions. Whether it was done on purpose or not, I couldn't tell you.

 

Sometimes it's a manufacturer's error, either the mix itself or in the labeling, but that didn't seem to stop the paint barn guys from using it back then. We had one jet that was supposed to be in the "Pumpkin" scheme - brown and dark green. It came out of the barn pale yellow and green. The paint guys said the barrels were marked with the FS number specified for the scheme, so that's what they used. It stayed that way for months.

 

Sven

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Hi Sven,

 

 

Many thanks for the clarification.

 

This kind of things makes our work a bit difficult but nonetheless, that's what I like even if it takes a bit more than usual to finish a kit.

 

Generally speaking, the adversary/aggressor schemes ARE difficult to reproduce when you don't have the FS numbers. (I know, TwoBobs have covered them but, when you have examples as the one I have mentioned, it does take more time to finish a kit)

 

Again, many thanks.

 

 

Cheers

 

Bill

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"69" has the Old Blue colours (35414/35190/35164/35622 bottom) however, the issue is with the dark colour on the "65" that is supposed to be the 35164 but at least "visually" it's not.

 

It looks more like the 36081.

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