Roger Holden Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 49 minutes ago, Moa said: Fooled by the slight curvature of the trailing edge on the section of the wing closer to the center on the only photo I found showing the reg on the upper wing in an almost convenient angle: Those letters were always applied in a standard way, so a photo of any aircraft clearly showing the upper surface would have sufficed. I refer you to your rule......always check with multiple sources (where possible). Saves lots of pain later.....as I know only too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Wing registration decals removed using Micro Set. Fortunately there are spares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Holden Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Moa said: Wing registration decals removed using Micro Set. Fortunately there are spares. You lucky, lucky boy ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Roger Holden said: Those letters were always applied in a standard way, so a photo of any aircraft clearly showing the upper surface would have sufficed. I refer you to your rule......always check with multiple sources (where possible). Saves lots of pain later.....as I know only too well. And yet, sometimes rules are meant to be bent. Here in this Ellsworth Gamma the regs. run perpendicular to the fuselage: But in these other two, Cochran's and TWA's Weather Laboratory Gammas that I modeled, they run parallel to the L.E.: That's why, being the case that OO-ENC had a repainted registration (at that time Belgian, not British anymore), I guided myself only from the meager number of photos of it I could get. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Holden Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Moa said: And yet, sometimes rules are meant to be bent. Here in this Ellsworth Gamma the regs. run perpendicular to the fuselage: But you are here comparing apples with pears. Your examples are metal-winged aircraft, which would not be dis-assembled to paint the letters, as the wing skins could support a man standing on them. So they had complete freedom to align the letters with leading edge, trailing edge, root rib (perp to fuselage) or any feature they chose. Fabric covered biplanes had the wings removed and placed on trestles to be painted (the fabric covering couldn't support a man standing on them), so they had to be guided by the ribs as those were the most logical features they had to align with. Thus the orientation of the letters was dictated by practical considerations of how they could be painted, which were more restrictive for a fabric-covered aircraft..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Roger Holden said: But you are here comparing apples with pears. Your examples are metal-winged aircraft, which would not be dis-assembled to paint the letters, as the wing skins could support a man standing on them. So they had complete freedom to align the letters with leading edge, trailing edge, root rib (perp to fuselage) or any feature they chose. Fabric covered biplanes had the wings removed and placed on trestles to be painted (the fabric covering couldn't support a man standing on them), so they had to be guided by the ribs as those were the most logical features they had to align with. Thus the orientation of the letters was dictated by practical considerations of how they could be painted, which were more restrictive for a fabric-covered aircraft..... And yet (plywood-covered only at the leading edge). The point is that there may be surprises, and particular arrangements. There is no absolute one-rule-fits-all. Unless you are a Mordor agent and want to subjugate everything to the One Rule (sorry, One Ring). This is one of my firsts scratch efforts. Why do I model so many British things? I may have to change that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Some not very visible whitish patches were the result of the removal, but just in case, again with paint and varnish: You are right, Roger. I hate you, but just enough. Without excesses, in a professional way, one may say. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenCJ Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Very nice models Moa, very nice. Salubrious models. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Holden Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Moa said: And yet (plywood-covered only at the leading edge). The point is that there may be surprises, and particular arrangements. There is no absolute one-rule-fits-all. Unless you are a Mordor agent and want to subjugate everything to the One Rule (sorry, One Ring). This is one of my firsts scratch efforts. Why do I model so many British things? I may have to change that. I am glad we could agree that your Fox Moth letters were wrongly aligned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 Decals on, one more time: And then rigging, stab struts, doors, prop. Almost there. Roger: if you see something, bite your tongue: 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 The resemblance with the Genairco Cabin Biplane is outstanding (From Bill Larkins Flickr photostream): 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azgaron Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Very nice work with decals and rigging! Håkan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastcat Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 That's a stunningly pretty little model. Lovely work. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Holden Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Moa said: Roger: if you see something, bite your tongue: I am very well-practised at that from years of reading your Blog 😆. But sometimes a lack of self-discipline lets me down.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Moa said: The resemblance with the Genairco Cabin Biplane is outstanding (From Bill Larkins Flickr photostream): Methinks you ought to have a go at it. Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 It looks awesome Moa, fantastic stuff, and I honestly see nothing! Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Martian Hale said: Methinks you ought to have a go at it. Martian 👽 Hi Martian I gathered some images, and started to look for a plan or 3-view, but fortunately common sense prevailed as I looked at the stack of unfinished projects and kits lying around. But by all means, if you feel like, please! Cheers 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Moa said: Hi Martian I gathered some images, and started to look for a plan or 3-view, but fortunately common sense prevailed as I looked at the stack of unfinished projects and kits lying around. But by all means, if you feel like, please! Cheers Since when did Britmodeller and common sense, a stack of unfinished projects, or any form of sanity have anything more than a passing acquaintance, or? Sadly or perhaps mercifully for me , my bench is literally full. Anyway, I have something totally crazy and quite possibly your cup of tea into the bargain, lined up as soon as some space becomes available. Martian the Mysterious 👽 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 Completed model here on RFI: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Martian Hale said: my bench is literally full. Snap! 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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