Tower Bridge Hunter - Airfix 1/72

[Whofan]

9 hours ago, CedB said:

Thanks Phil I heard yesterday from 'the team' that there was general agreement that the car, driverless or not, would have found it impossible to avoid the woman when she stepped out of shadows into the road.

 

Ced,

 

that article you linke to was interesting. In two ways, it seems to me.

 

1)  The driverless car sounds like it can be defeated by low illuminaton. The police man pointed out - fairly, I think, that a driver would have had difficulty in seeing a person in the low levels of light. And watching the video footage of it, the pedestrian really did appear out of nowhere, but the car did not react at all. That looks to me that the detection technology might not be able to pick up some thing pretty close to the car.

 

 I can attest to the difficulties of detecting a person in low light, as 18 years ago I was knocked down by a car crossing the road at about 7 am one December morning. There were street lights on the stretch of road I was crossing, but the driver said he didn't see me. (he was travelling at about 25 mph). I was lucky, only suffered a broken ankle, and a great loss of dignity!

 

Possible solution to the low light problem? infra red sensors? or better tuning on the radar sensors?

 

2) The policeman said the car was doing 38 in a 35 mph zone. Technically speeding. i wonder do the cars have some sort of device to read a speed sign and adjust automatically? I appreciate that the pedestrian could have been killed at 35, or 30, or 20 mph, but a collision at 38 mph feels to me too fast to survive.

 

The other thing that baffled me, unless it was sloppy sub editing, the report quotes the policeman as saying the uber car driver was a man. I checked, and it was a woman. Odd.

 

But sobering. Glad to see Ced you are playing your part in getting this technology working!

Edited April 10, 2018 by Whofan
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[The Spadgent]

Looks like you’ve had a fun few days. Comedy tour, driverless cars. Creeping goop. All the good stuff. I love the camo, reminds me of when I did the Lightning. Brilliant work sir. 

 

Johnny.

[Cookenbacher]

The camo looks brilliant Ced.

 

Very interesting time you've had Ced- I was passing through Arizona a week and a half ago and all that was on the radio was news about the driverless car testing.

My mom's Honda has a 'lane assist' function I tried out, and it worked well until I experience wind gusts from the side while on the highway: between the wind, the automatic 'lane assist' and my own input, the car began a moderate oscillation back and forth within the lane - very disconcerting. I quickly turned off the 'lane assist' and all was back to normal.

 

I also envy you the advanced power generating urinal, my urine is busy doing nothin'.

[CedB]

Thanks Benedikt, Giorgio, John, Simon, Nigel and Johnny

Thanks Keith, and Paul for correctly translating MIL for me I haven't decided what to do next, yet. Hannants have just delivered the transfers so, with your kind donation Keith we are near the end (once the paint's dry). I'll ponder below (or later).

 

7 hours ago, charlie_c67 said:

Incidently Ced, what paint are you using for this one? May have missed it elsewhere.

Nice gif Charlie - I'm a Father Ted fan meself, to be sure... Paint? Vallejo Model Air Silber on the bottom, Colourcoats for the camo and other bits.

 

7 hours ago, Courageous said:

Got to get one of these, would make my camo demarcation a lot easier. 

7 hours ago, perdu said:

So that is a bit like my cheapo X-cut swivel knife then

 

Mine was about six quid but I've just seen advert for £4.50 at Hobbycraft on a Googling

 

Nice gear Ced, as you always do, you brought us a new game to play

☺

Get one Stuart! As Bill says there are other alternatives but this one is really smooth once you get the pressure right. Also, you can't cut yourself (it says in the ads).

Before I bought the vinyl cutter, scaling the scheme and cutting out with the Gyro-cut was my preferred method. I bought a tin of 3M Remount (expensive) but then found some sticky mat adhesive from the same people as the cutter so might be worth buying both? The adhesive brushes on and remains tacky when dry, so you can reposition stuff, just like PostIts.

 

1 hour ago, Whofan said:

Ced,

 

that article you linke to was interesting. In two ways, it seems to me.

 

1)  The driverless car sounds like it can be defeated by low illuminaton. The police man pointed out - fairly, I think, that a driver would have had difficulty in seeing a person in the low levels of light. And watching the video footage of it, the pedestrian really did appear out of nowhere, but the car did not react at all. That looks to me that the detection technology might not be able to pick up some thing pretty close to the car.

 

 I can attest to the difficulties of detecting a person in low light, as 18 years ago I was knocked down by a car crossing the road at about 7 am one December morning. There were street lights on the stretch of road I was crossing, but the driver said he didn't see me. (he was travelling at about 25 mph). I was lucky, only suffered a broken ankle, and a great loss of dignity!

 

Possible solution to the low light problem? infra red sensors? or better tuning on the radar sensors?

 

2) The policeman said the car was doing 38 in a 35 mph zone. Technically speeding. i wonder do the cars have some sort of device to read a speed sign and adjust automatically? I appreciate that the pedestrian could have been killed at 35, or 30, or 20 mph, but a collision at 38 mph feels to me too fast to survive.

 

The other thing that baffled me, unless it was sloppy sub editing, the report quotes the policeman as saying the uber car driver was a man. I checked, and it was a woman. Odd.

 

But sobering. Glad to see Ced you are playing your part in getting this technology working!

I'm sure in a few years we'll wonder what all the fuss was about. On the way to the trial I saw the remnants of an accident on a roundabout where someone had (possibly) pulled out in front of a speeding SUV. Or maybe it was in the inside lane and continued around the roundabout without indicating (grrrr). Accidents happen but at least, hopefully, the driverless cars won't drive like idiots, fingers crossed

The Tesla accident was a white truck across the road on a white sky. The cameras didn't pick it up and, if it's anything like my Golf it doesn't react to stationary objects.

The Venturer (and others) use LiDAR to detect objects but obviously the software has to decide what to do when it 'sees' something. On the trial a slightly wary member of the team had to stand on the corner that the car was turning into and, later, on a pedestrian crossing. It was interesting to see that the car waited for a bit but, if they didn't move, completed the manoeuvre. Clever.

 

52 minutes ago, Cookenbacher said:

The camo looks brilliant Ced.

 

Very interesting time you've had Ced- I was passing through Arizona a week and a half ago and all that was on the radio was news about the driverless car testing.

My mom's Honda has a 'lane assist' function I tried out, and it worked well until I experience wind gusts from the side while on the highway: between the wind, the automatic 'lane assist' and my own input, the car began a moderate oscillation back and forth within the lane - very disconcerting. I quickly turned off the 'lane assist' and all was back to normal.

 

I also envy you the advanced power generating urinal, my urine is busy doing nothin'.

Thanks Cookie I've had a test drive in a VW T-Roc this morning, like my Golf, only grown up. Nice car. It has 'lane assist' as standard but, to be honest, the only time I noticed it was when it resisted me changing lanes. OK, I didn't indicate, there was no one behind me. Disappointingly for me it doesn't 'drive', it just 'assist' in case you wander off. I'd better save up for a Tesla.

 

 

More Hunter. White bits. Annoyingly there was no 'obvious' line for this to follow. It goes from the pitot to 'a bit on the back' but there's no pitot on the other side. Hmmm. Idiot idea #365, measure the pitot and mark the same on the other side:

 

 

Why an idiot idea? Because, after all that fussing, you turn the model over and find that on THAT side Airfix have moulded the nav lights and they're the demarcation points.

I also have a plate with 'How do you keep an idiot busy all day? Please turn over' on it. Keeps me busy for hours.

 

White bits, brushed coat #1:

 

 

While I'm waiting for that to dry it allows me to ponder the philosophy of another aspects of modelling... Is it quicker to mask and spray a single coat than to wait for multiple brushed coats to dry?

 

Also to ponder, what's next.

Jon (06/24) has led me astray and I have a (wait for it) 1/32 Wingnut Camel.

John (Biggles) has been trying to lead me astray to 'bigger' for ages so I bought an Eduard 1/48 Lysander (I panicked when I read in Iain's thread that they're discontinued). My theory is that, as it has fixed wheels, I can hang it lower on the ceiling than the 1/72 collection:

 

 

If that doesn't work it can sit on its wheels in the 'display cabinet'.

I also bought the 'new Airfix Marauder' to top up the Hannants decal order (ahem). It's not new is it? Scalemates says it's a 1973 mold; what have I done (again)?

 

I've also lots of kits in my stash that I've had for some time.

I feel guilty I haven't built them yet.

Including a MIL (topical).

And the Beaufighter PC sent me (am I ready?)

And some HP42 donations including a little Pup - would be nice to build alongside the Camel?

 

Hmmm.

 

 

[perdu]

Just becos you haven't got it don't mean you don't also got a Nimmy too...

 

Hunter's looking dammed fine already

😆

[giemme]

26 minutes ago, CedB said:

Is it quicker to mask and spray a single coat than to wait for multiple brushed coats to dry?

In the case of white, even considering a base off-white coat, I'd have no doubt: spray! 

 

Quite some stash you have - I'd be very curious to see a Wingnut Wings kit build, though

 

Ciao

 

[CedB]

Thanks Bill - of course the Nimmy too; I hope to be able to do it justice!

Thanks Giorgio - spray it I will, next time (and the time after that!)

 

End of paint - hooray! I put another coat on the white (good enough for the ceiling) and then considered the nose. Mask and spray? How do you mark a nose cone?

 

 

Find something about the right size to mark it up. That's a... well, you stick it in your ear on the end of a Otoscope and my eldest is an Audiologist, the source of many 'that'll come in' stuff.

Tamiya 'tape for curves'?

 

 

Er, no then. I'm thinking of renaming it 'tape for slight curves as long as they don't go over any lumps or bumps and you paint quickly before it peels off'. ^TM, obviously.

Hold your breath, get a nice brush, carefully brush on the matt black:

 

 

Panel lines, they're panel lines. I may sand a bit when the paint's dry.

Done, ready for a gloss coat (I'm learning) tomorrow eh?

 

[keefr22]

6 minutes ago, CedB said:

How do you mark a nose cone?

 

Circle template - find a circle hole the right size to give a tight seal & shove it on. Always works sometimes....

 

Keith

[Spookytooth]

Looking good Ced, nice work on the camo.

 

How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

 

 

I will tell you tomorrow....

 

 

Simon.

[Courageous]

1 hour ago, CedB said:

Get one Stuart! As Bill says there are other alternatives but this one is really smooth once you get the pressure right. Also, you can't cut yourself (it says in the ads).

Before I bought the vinyl cutter, scaling the scheme and cutting out with the Gyro-cut was my preferred method. I bought a tin of 3M Remount (expensive) but then found some sticky mat adhesive from the same people as the cutter so might be worth buying both? The adhesive brushes on and remains tacky when dry, so you can reposition stuff, just like PostIts.

Just bought one, your fault. As for the sticky stuff not sure, looked you had a little trouble sticking yours down think I'll try Tamiya tape first.

Hunter coming along nicely by the ways.

[Tomoshenko]

Camo looks good Ced. Surprised with the nose cone masking technique. Thought you'd have sourced some rare and specialised thingybob wotsit from evilbay. There again, Otoscopes... why am I not surprised.

[perdu]

I tend to find one of these useful for "that sort of thing"

 

Lots of choice there

[Biggles87]

Yeah, success! He's bought a 1/48'kit. Will he build it though?

 

John

[Courageous]

oohh, 'square' noses too. 

1 hour ago, Biggles87 said:

Yeah, success! He's bought a 1/48'kit. Will he build it though?

Stranger things have happened. A mate of mine has only every built 2 1/72 jets in his life, and an airbrush once. He's just purchased a 1/32 Tornado from the LMS, go figure.

[amblypygid]

An Eduard 1/48 at that, with all the gubbins they put in. I'd like to see you take on any of those projects, Ced, especially if they all turn out as nicely as this Hunter.

[71chally]

lovely paint work Ced. 

The Hunter wing tip colour areas are usually marked by the wing tip panels which are fairly obvious on the real aircraft (being easily detachable etc) but it seems Airfix didn't make lines for those, however you seem to have them just so!

[CedB]

Thanks Keith and Bill A circle template eh? What, one of these?

 

 

 

 

Tomo one of the good things about being a 'tool tart' is that you do, indeed, have lots of "rare and specialised thingybob wotsit from evilbay". The bad thing about being an old tool tart is that you forget you've got them.

 

Thanks Simon - looking forward to finding out "How you keep an idiot in suspense"...

 

Stuart pleased to hear you've bought a Gyro-cut. I don't think you'll be disappointed I used Remount for these masks and I'm not sure I applied it evenly - obviously not. I've yet to try the sticky mat stuff; watch this space (or probably another one when the Remount runs out)

 

Thanks John - yes, it's all your fault! Will I build it? of course, one day

Thanks Chris - yes, lots of gubbins in the Eduard kit (PE and resin) so I'll look forward to it soon(ish). Don't want to crash Iain's current build and it'll be good for me to see how he gets on

 

Thanks James - pleased to hear I've got the wing tips right

 

 

You've all been very kind not mentioning the 'orrid leading edge on the starboard wing, or the blob of white near the pitot.

It's been niggling me so I've sorted that and touched up some other little bits and added some steel on the tail pipe.

Need to wait for that to dry before gloss so I may think about the next one...

[keefr22]

46 minutes ago, CedB said:

What, one of these?

 

Yup!

[Nigel Heath]

That's a lovely paint job, one of your best yet I reckon. A very tidy solution on  the nose painting.

 

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Is it quicker to mask and spray a single coat than to wait for multiple brushed coats to dry?

 

Like Giorgio I would go down the mask and spray route - more work but a better level of finish IMHO.

[CedB]

Thanks Keith

Thanks Nigel for the very kind comments - mask and spray, got it

 

While I'm waiting for the paint to dry (should have sprayed...) I've chosen my next build.

It's a (gulp) helicopter (I know!)

A big, complicated one (I know!)

A Revell Mil Hind, started here.

I've had it in the stash since I started modelling and guilt has got the better of me. I must be mad...

[keefr22]

17 hours ago, Spookytooth said:

How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

 

 

I will tell you tomorrow....

 

 

Simon.

 

Still waiting to find out....

[Spookytooth]

3 minutes ago, keefr22 said:

 

Still waiting to find out....

It works then LOL

 

Simon.

[giemme]

1 hour ago, CedB said:

It's a (gulp) helicopter (I know!)

Aaaaarghh!     The world is coming to an end!!! 

 

If you keep on like this, you'll soon be building a 1/48 kit without even knowing ....      

 

Ciao

[CedB]

Thanks Keith, Simon and Giorgio

I know, what am I thinking? Oh well, has to be done.

 

Meanwhile the Hunter has had a coat of thinned Klear. I'll let that dry overnight.

[Nigel Heath]

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It's a (gulp) helicopter (I know!)

 

Excellent news.

 

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A big, complicated one (I know!)

 

Even better.

 

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A Revell Mil Hind, started here.

 

Now you are just spoiling us.