The Su-57 are arriving

[Aardvark]

2 hours ago, magman2 said:

President Putin visits  Akhtubinsk.

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

[Mike]

I've just been reviewing this topic, and it's an interesting one.  There have been a few instances where people have got their feathers ruffled though, and resorted to that old internet staple of point-scoring to "win".  Can we not do that fellas?  Let's educate and inform, rather than whining, bullying and demeaning other folks.  Gawd knows there's enough of that on the wider internet already

 

Keep going on the right track.  Serge I think you get the 🥀 for the most dull a2a video of the day Not your fault of course, but those 57s weren't up to much, were they?  I do like the look of the Su-57/T-50/Pak-Fa though, and would entreat any company to produce me a nice injection moulded 1:48 kit so I don't have to go back and finish my HpH one 🙏

[Aardvark]

7 hours ago, Mike said:

Let's educate and inform, rather than whining, bullying and demeaning other folks. 

 But, "For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increaseth knowledge, increaseth sorrow."(c).

7 hours ago, Mike said:

Serge I think you get the 🥀 for the most dull a2a video of the day

This video  really dull 🤗, but I thought that this video was shot by mr.Putin on his Nokia 3310 😁😁specifically for Britmodeller? 😁😁 This is not true?  😲I was deceived?😲

I am so sorry!!!

😁😁😁

 

B.R.

Serge

 

P.S.

A bit of Russian specifics.  

I don’t know what the PR- department Russian MoD

conducted the  when they chose 6 Su-57, because one of the meanings of the  "6" has a negative interpretation:

"The six is the scornful name of the errand man (from the six - the youngest playing card in the Russian deck of 36 cards)."

from:

https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Шестёрка

🤔

Ideally, it would be 7- Su-57 because "7" everyone associates with a "lucky  seven" , but it looks like they certainly did not have so much Su-57 at this moment. Five Su-57 will immediately lead to associations with the "Red Five" (aerobatic flying group established by order of Stalin in the USSR in 1934):

https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Красная_пятёрка

I will not develop associafies further, but they are clear to everyone.

4, 3 & 2 Su-57 somehow small and undignified for escort. 😁

 

Such is the interesting specificity of the figures in Russian.

[Aardvark]

More  dull  video!😁

Building first serial Su-57:

 

B.R.

Serge

[whiskey]

That kinda negates the whole idea behind a 5th generation fighter doesn't it? Releasing videos of the manufacturing process, albeit not all of it, but even portions is enough for counter-intelligence groups to break it down. Or am I full of hot air?

[Aardvark]

13 hours ago, whiskey said:

That kinda negates the whole idea behind a 5th generation fighter doesn't it?

You about  "5th generation fighter   maked only from composite materials"? 

Indeed, there is a serious lag in the production of aviation composites.  The main problem Russian composites are much heavier than their Western counterparts.  In addition, considerable experience in the use of composite materials on various aircraft, such as the MiG-29, revealed many problems with the uncontrolled aging of these materials and, as a consequence, a decrease in their characteristics.

13 hours ago, whiskey said:

Releasing videos of the manufacturing process, albeit not all of it, but even portions is enough for counter-intelligence groups to break it down.

As we says: "Very money need".😁

After the stupid and inappropriate interviews of some officials, this is in the topic, it is necessary to show potential investors that the program is alive.

Is this a nightmare for counter-intelligence groups? Yes, for them the nightmare of any public event!  Anyone!  That is the specifics of their work. Whether this video showed anything that was not shown before, except for the disgruntled face of the worker 😁, in my opinion not.

The ability to break anything in sabotage and 

saboteur groups is absolutely always and everywhere.

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

[Aardvark]

On 7/3/2018 at 8:15 PM, IPMS19 said:

Somebody knows the code name of the Su-57 ?

For first version 

PAK-FA T-50 -"Frazor"

For series Su-57-

 "Felon".

 

 

B.w. about first series Su-57 "Felon":

 

B.R.

Serge

[Jure Miljevic]

Shortly after F-35 delivery cancellation for Turkey information about possible sale of Su-57 instead had been leaked. Is there any substance to this or is it just a propaganda or perhaps Turkey's effort to improve its bargaining position? Cheers

Jure

[Aardvark]

8 hours ago, Jure Miljevic said:

Is there any substance

33.3(3)%

8 hours ago, Jure Miljevic said:

just a propaganda

33,3(3)%

8 hours ago, Jure Miljevic said:

Turkey's effort to improve its bargaining position

33,3(3)%

...or summary combination two out of three factors....

 😉😁😁😁

 

I really don't know about this, because where I'm and where Russian MoD or Turkish MoD?

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

[Jure Miljevic]

Thanks Serge, I thought such might be the case. Let us wait and see what, if anything, develops out of this. Cheers

Jure

[mdauben]

On 3/12/2018 at 8:26 AM, Phantome said:

 

From what I know, the Su-57 is only intended to be stealthy from the front; the exhausts are not optimized for stealth.

Perhaps, but it looks like the intakes open directly onto the front turbine.  From what I have read the rotating front of the engine is a major source of radar return.  Don't the F-117 and F-22 both have bends in their air intakes to prevent that?  

[bentwaters81tfw]

Very impressive piece of kit, and prettier than the Raptor.

Hope for some decent kits of it soon.

[Aardvark]

1 hour ago, mdauben said:

Perhaps, but it looks like the intakes open directly onto the front turbine.  From what I have read the rotating front of the engine is a major source of radar return.  Don't the F-117 and F-22 both have bends in their air intakes to prevent that?  

"Shielding work on the blades of the compressor of the engine of the fifth generation fighter T-50"

https://vpk.name/news/37715_rabotyi_po_ekranirovaniyu_lopatok_kompressora_dvigatelya_istrebitelya_pyatogo_pokoleniya_t50.html

"The user posted a photo of the T-50 on the forum of the Military Parity website, where, in his opinion, the compressor blades are clearly visible and that the new Russian fifth-generation fighter cannot be assigned to stealth aircraft.

In response to this photo, with a link to the paralay.com forum, an answer was received that it was not compressor blades, but a kind of CRP (coaxial-radial grating) made of radar absorbing materials and designed to hide direct radar radiation from the inlet of the T-50 engines (  "I threw off this photo to the Ostrov, asked to tell how they will solve it. The situation is this - now on AL-96 (I also heard for the first time, the engine was planned for the SU-30MKI) they will install KRC (coaxial-radial gratings) which are" coated "with some kind of RP  material, and the shoulder blades will be  voltage measures, then without measurements they will put 117 engines on the engine stand at 08, if it has a strong influence on the engine, the Saturnites will refine the blades of the primary circuit. If everything is okay, they plan to put the grill at 50-3.  is on the forum, they can confirm it. Tomorrow, if I can get rid of the lattice drawing ")."

Similar technology on F/A-18E.

 

B.R.

Serge

 

[Aardvark]

Special for theory conspiracy fan!

 

Oddities with disaster first serial Su-57.

 

During the test flight, when the aircraft was “driven” at maximum speed, an integrated control system failed.  According to some sources, the plane entered an uncontrollable “barrel”, according to others - into a flat corkscrew.  At this moment, he was at an altitude of 10 kilometers.  The pilot fought for the survivability of the fighter to a height of two kilometers, but in the end he had to eject.  He landed successfully, he was found and picked up by helicopter less than an hour after the disaster.  At the time of the landing, the temperature was about 30 degrees below zero.

 

For the test pilot who was sitting at the cockpit, this is not the first eject from an out-of-control fighter.  In 2012, he was part of the crew of the Su-30 that fell near Komsomolsk-on-Amur, and the circumstances of these two incidents, by a strange coincidence, are very similar.

 

The Su-30 crashed on February 28, 2012, 130 kilometers north of Komsomolsk-on-Amur.  

Video crush Su-30:

When performing acceleration to maximum instrument speed, the backlight came off when refueling in the air.  Once in the air intake, this part caused a fire of the right engine.  Both pilots successfully ejected.

One way or another, the following details match:

 In both cases, we are talking about acceptance tests, when the aircraft were tested at maximum conditions, but in 2012 the aircraft was tested before being transferred to Vietnam;
 Both aircraft crashed in about the same area north of Komsomolsk, one in 130 kilometers, the second in 111;

 In both cases, the disaster occurred in the winter;
 Both then and now, the pilots ejected after lengthy attempts to save the combat vehicle;
 The pilot who piloted the Su-57 today was also part of the crew of the Su-30 that fell in 2012;
 In both cases, fortunately, there were no casualties.

 

Source:

http://www.komcity.ru/news/?id=36091

 

B.R.

Serge

 

P.S.

New missile for Su-57:

with "old" missile & pylon's:

Resource:

http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19598&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1040

 

[At Sea]

Interesting thread.  With any luck all this low radar return and fighting insurgents from 30,000+ ft can stop.  The technological arms race will make ground masking relevant once more and we can get back to the serious business of painting everything grey-green wrap around and low flying near my house again.

[Aardvark]

53 minutes ago, At Sea said:

With any luck all this low radar return and fighting insurgents from 30,000+ ft can stop.

Some hypothetical- conspirology

version says - "No".

https://afirsov.livejournal.com/529914.html

Highly recommended used Google translate, but reading this text.

 

For those who do not want to read a large text through a Google translator in Russian, a brief summary.

 

The article is about a possible use concept X-37 as carrier С-HGB ( AHW), that is, according to the author of article, X-37 this is a platform for delivering a first point strike from space with hypersonic missile  С-HGB ( AHW) to the top military-political leadership of any country that the owners of the X-37 consider to be enemy.

 

Of course there is no evidence of the hypothesis referred to in the article, but if this is true, this is just the concept "strike from 30,000++++ ft"

😉

53 minutes ago, At Sea said:

The technological arms race will make ground masking relevant once more and we can get back to the serious business of painting everything grey-green wrap around and low flying near my house again.

With masking always was best than without masking!

😉😁

 

B.R.

Serge 

[exdraken]

Any news on the Su-57?

Did they find the reason for the first serial production jet crash? Is it public?

[Aardvark]

On 3/22/2020 at 3:04 PM, exdraken said:

Any news on the Su-57?

😁 The MoD Russian Federation is closely following this topic! 😁😁😁

Therefore, today the following official news appeared:

Official annotation:

 "Pilots of the Aerospace Forces have fully mastered the Su-57 aircraft in all flight modes, including limiting modes of altitude, speed and overload.
 In the course of the flight missions, VKS pilots completed single and group aerobatics, group flight as part of a link, flights at low and extremely low altitudes, as well as combat use of aviation weapons.
 The final stage of the flights was the implementation of elements of close air combat, including the use of super-maneuverable modes of the aviation complex.
 Su-57 is a 5th generation fighter designed to destroy air, ground and sea targets.  The aircraft is equipped with weapons located in the inside fuselage compartments, the latest complex of avionics, as well as a radio-absorbing coating developed using stealth technology.  Within the framework of the state defense order, 76 aircraft of this type were planned to be delivered to the Aerospace Forces."

More photo:

 

On 3/22/2020 at 3:04 PM, exdraken said:

Did they find the reason for the first serial production jet crash? Is it public?

I have not read any official posts.  If they appear, I will write about this of course .... if someone does not write about.

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

Edited March 25, 2020 by Aardvark

[Nigel Bunker]

Can IPMS Russia please talk to Sukhoi and get the camouflage scheme changed to one that is easier to reproduce on a model.

[Aardvark]

2 hours ago, Nigel Bunker said:

Can IPMS Russia

I don’t know anything about the activity of this organization and its power .... does it even exist in reality or only on paper / on the Internet?

2 hours ago, Nigel Bunker said:

talk to Sukhoi and get the camouflage scheme changed to one that is easier to reproduce on a model.

1. You do not allow the idea that the MoD Russian Federation has a cartel agreement with model manufacturers of aftermarket masks and decals for Su-57 camouflage? 😉😁

2.There is a strong opinion that some officials of the Russian Federation, in gratitude for the cancellation of property introduced abroad against their real estate (including in the UK), are ready not only to change the camouflage scheme on the Su-57, but also applying  RAF insignia 

on the Su-57! 😉😁

What is there, the RAF insignia, the flag of Buckinghamshire

and the portrait of 

Nigel Bunker

will be applied on Su-57.... only remove the locks from their accounts in GB banks!

😉😁

Therefore, everything is in Your hands!

😉

 

B.R.

Serge

 

 

 

Edited March 26, 2020 by Aardvark

[Aardvark]

A little bit Su-57:

 

B.R.

Serge

[Aardvark]

Almost box-art  plot:

Photo by Anna Jurgenson, "Aviation and Cosmonautics magazine", 5/2020.

Recourse:

https://afirsov.livejournal.com/540809.html

 

B.R.

Serge 

Edited May 7, 2020 by Aardvark

[alt-92]

On 3/25/2020 at 1:52 PM, Aardvark said:

"Pilots of the Aerospace Forces have fully mastered the Su-57 aircraft in all flight modes, including limiting modes of altitude, speed and overload.
 In the course of the flight missions, VKS pilots completed single and group aerobatics, group flight as part of a link, flights at low and extremely low altitudes, as well as combat use of aviation weapons."

 

You just got to love that not-so-subtle poke at the F-35 program

 

 

[Aardvark]

11 minutes ago, alt-92 said:

You just got to love that not-so-subtle poke at the F-35 program

I never thought in this context, but I think You're right!

😉😁

But what do You from the official text of the MoD?

Nevertheless, if you's follow the official channel of the MoD Russian Federation on YouTube, you can notice four new films about 2WW in English designed for the English-speaking Internet audience, maybe some time will pass and they will make a film in English about the Su-57? Who knows....

 

9 hours ago, Aardvark said:

Almost box-art  plot:

But as for me, for box-art,  on background need more dramatic, I don't know, maybe thunder and lightning on background?

 

B.R.

Serge

 

[JPuente54]

Actually, decals/transfers of the camouflage scheme may be better to use than paint in 1/72nd and smaller scales. In 1/48th and larger, it is more of a debate for either. The problem may be the ability of the company to print the 'correct" color(s). Still as @Nigel Bunker asked it would be nice if IPMS/Russia, or anyone could print a good and accurate camo. scheme of the Su-57.