Mancunian airman Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Hi all If I was to have such an aircraft on my airfield would it carry any particular markings ? I obviously presume the usual RAF roundels and wing/tail markings but what else could I expect to see ? any help and guidance would be appreciated . Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossington 2 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Maybe some BAT flight yellow triangles? There were a lot of them, they were co-located with OCU's/HCU's and I suspect many a pilot would find an excuse to visit his old squadron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don149 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 If it was a slightly tatty , well used Ox Box it would most likely still be in green/dark earth above , trainer yellow below with the turret removed ! . If it`s postwar it would be overall silver with yellow training bands. The odd few I saw were in the latter . Don . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 The most colourful is likely Free French one: However the most interesting is I think any of "field bomber" from Habbaniya, 1941. I am not sure if it is right scheme. I made mine with red (not black) letter only on nose... Cheers Jerzy-Wojtek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Depending on period, trainer Oxfords (not all had the turret) would have the yellow halfway up the sides (up to 1940), only on the underside, or with yellow fuselage bands and upper-surface wingtips. I suspect that repainting them was not a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Ossington said: Maybe some BAT flight yellow triangles? There were a lot of them, they were co-located with OCU's/HCU's and I suspect many a pilot would find an excuse to visit his old squadron. Rather like this. The Signals Development Unit (SDU) moved onto Hinton-In-The-Hedges airfield on 15 April 1943, operating a rare mixture of aircraft including Ansons, Masters and Oxfords to Whitleys. Some of these aircraft had been absorbed from No. 1551 Flight, a Blind Approach Calibration Unit, which had been based at Bicester. It was agreed in March 1943 that they should carry large yellow triangles on the nose sides and amidships. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Thanks for the input lads. I already have a BAT Oxford but I was thinking that the station Commander would have his own aircraft, perhaps an old kite Yes, but without any BAT markings. Is it possible that he could have had an aircraft that was purely camouflaged, (I dont know what colour the underside would be ?) and used as his personal 'hack' ? I am thinking late 1943 . . . . Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 More likely an Anson than an Oxford as a "Station Flight" rather than a personal machine. Ansons were available in larger numbers. The US however did have a number of Oxfords in the comms/hack role (I.e. at least one...) A Proctor might be used as a suitable personal aircraft, or if they still existed a pre-war Vega Gull or Hendy Heck. I've a feeling they might have been kept for higher ranks, however. It might be a good excuse to grab one of the forthcoming new kits of Gulls/Proctor 1s. The extra Yellow markings wouldn't have been on non-training aircraft, and I've seen a colour photo showing that at least one Anson had Sky undersides. I have a feeling that the "Everything else in Yellow undersides" was strictly applied at the start of the war but things were more relaxed by 1943. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Many thanks for that Graham. I have another Oxford, in kit form but it looks like I shall have to look out for 'Annie' The Station Commander was a Group Captain so I did wonder if he was of sufficient high rank to warrant his own aircraft ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-21 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Waltham station flight used Oxford T1372 and Tiger Moth T6315, these aircraft would have been in standard dark green and brown uppers and trainer yellow I undersides. The Tiger Moth went to the Admiralty 6.6.45. Edited March 7, 2018 by T-21 Corrections 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) That is of great interest, Thank you T21. I would like to know where you sourced that info in case there is more to contribute to my book that I am currently writing. I have the Oxford as being used for SBA training but that was early days when 100 was building up to become operational. The Oxford was only there for about 6 weeks Was the tiggie for the G/Capt ? Ian Edited March 7, 2018 by Mancunian airman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-21 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 RAF Flying Training and Support Units since 1912 by Ray Sturtivant Air-Britain. I crossed checked the Oxford serial in the Air Britain T serial book as It was a digit out in Rays book presume transpose error as T1373. The Group Captain at Metheringham regularly used their station flight Tiger Moth so I would say yes. All the Bomber Command squadrons tended to use an Oxford and Tiger Moth on strength. The Comms flights used Proctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 An Oxford with a Bomber Squadron makes sense as it could be used to for instrument rating etc. Post war single seat jet fighter squadrons often had a Meteor or Vampire trainer for that purpose so I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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