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On 4/13/2018 at 4:02 PM, mini man said:

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Loved the film! Thanks for posting.

 

Now if you swap the Transit for a red Sherpa, that could easily have been me out on my RM box collection back in the 80s! :whistle:

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Now that I've cleaned all the drool off my keyboard maybe I write something intellegent......intelagnt.......smart now.

So, if a guy kinda went a little overboard with this LWB Transit, and wanted to put a motor in it, what would he use?

Did the LWB come with the V4? And is it the same one SAAB used?

I know I could use any motor, but what would be "correct" for a factory build?

As far as a cast tire..oops..tyre rack, that would be great. The question in my mind is, will it support 15 or 20 tyres?

I can see it now...all my built ups robbed of their rubber!

Thanks for your help in advance.

I'm just gunna go back a page and drool some more......a little bit.................maybe..........

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Here is some engine info, I don't know about any connection with SAAB - I thought they were all powered by jet engines?! 

 

"Customers buying a new Ford Transit MK2 had a choice selection of petrol engines and diesel engines. In the Ford range includes three petrol units and one diesel (initially with a capacity of 2.4L, and 2.5L face-lift). The table below we present the comparison engines.

 

1.6 OHC

2.0 OHC

3.0 V6

2.4 Diesel

2.5 Diesel

Engine (cc)

1593

1993

2992

2360

2496

Power (hp)

65

78

100

62

68

Max power in (rpm)

4750

4500

4650

3600

b.d. 

The new Ford Transit MK2 was sold in several body versions. They dominated mainly vans and minivans. However, the design of this model allowed for any development of the body. As a result, Ford Transit MK2 could serve as a tug, ambulances, as well as a military vehicle. However, the most popular were fire engines, which have survived to this day. Transit MK2 was offered on 14-inch wheels."

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If I remember correctly.

The SAAB 96? used a Ford of Germany 1700cc V4.

I'm sure I remember Transits with a V4, but whether it was the

German one or the English 2 litre I'm not sure.

 

I found this which may be of use

https://pitchers-0-stuff.tumblr.com/post/173073972514/hemmingsmotornews-former-fire-department-1968

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Yes it does help. Choices for V6 motors seem to be a little thin in 1/24, let alone diesel 4 cylinders. But I have to admit, I haven't looked yet.

That Transit fire truck has been for sale all over. I think I saw it on daBay out of Colorado some time ago. Interesting to note that bungee cords 

must be the battery tie-down of choice all over the world! 

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The V4 appears to have been in the Mk1, here are the engine options.

 

The first Ford Transit was produced in 1953, he wore a name Ford Taunus Transit. It was only in 1965, after the production of the Taunus decided to mark the new generation Transit abbreviated as "MK" (ang. Mark). Ford Transit MK1 was produced continuously until 1978 in several body styles:

  • modelemk1.png- Van - Classic van; 
  • - Chassis Cabs; 
  • - Chassis Cabs with Windscreen 
  • - Chassis Cab, 
  • - Kombi, 
  • - Minibus - Bus. 

In the model MK1 SWB had a choice of two engines - one diesel (diesel) and the second petrol (V4). In the LWB version appeared while two-liter petrol.

Type

Petrol V4 OHV

(SWB)

Petrol V4 OHV

(LWB)

Diesel OHV

(SWB)

Capacity

1.7L (1663cc)

2.0L (1996cc)

1.6L (1621cc)

Power (hp)

73

85.5

42.3

Max. Power (rpm)

4750

4750

3600

Fuel tank capacity depending on the model was 35 liters (SWB) and 68 liters (LWB). Transit models are equipped with 14-inch steel wheels on the 5 screws, as well as a four-speed manual gearbox.

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Great conversion. I really must get on with the one I am making as my old van. 

The ex Ford V4 was used in the SAAB 95 and 96. With the 99 onwards they used a development of the ex Triumph 2000 engine until the next generation 900 series. 

My Transit had an ex Capri 2.0 with a fast road cam. Twin webber carbs and a four branch manifold and a few other engine tweaks. Also had a drivers seat from a Ford Granada ghia, spotlights, sunroof and.......rust. 

 

All the best. 

 

Greg

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Thinking of v4s,I was bored/mad a few weeks back and came up with this idea - a v8 to a v4!

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Timing  chain cover removed and  the  inlet manifold cut down.
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Exhaust  manifolds on.
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Near  done.    
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A  couple of videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8pgka6K-Zw

 

 

Here is the v4  with valve covers and timing chain etc.     
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Indeed Mini Man, the cut down V8 is looking like the way to go. Going to have to create a file folder of just V4 photos. Never have "built" a scale motor before, this should prove interesting! 

Of course it would be so much easier to find someone that can render it in 3D, and has a connection to Shapeways.

Oh yeah, they would have to be willing to give freely of their time for my selfish wants!  Hummmmmmmm.............

If only I knew someone.................................... 

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Not 100% on this but I seem to remember the V4 was only used in the mk1 Tranny and Capri mk1 and possibly the Taunus. Though when I was a member of the Capri club international I never came across a V4 powered Capri. 

May be worth asking if anyone has a spare engine from an esci/Italeri MK2 Escort? That would be perfect for tthis version of Transit. 

 

All the best

 

Greg.

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18 minutes ago, gregers said:

Not 100% on this but I seem to remember the V4 was only used in the mk1 Tranny and Capri mk1 and possibly the Taunus. Though when I was a member of the Capri club international I never came across a V4 powered Capri. 

May be worth asking if anyone has a spare engine from an esci/Italeri MK2 Escort? That would be perfect for tthis version of Transit. 

 

All the best

 

Greg.

Yup, The Taunus gt that V4 engine too, my father got a 17M super with the V4.

As for the diesel one, they have the french indenor engine (marine engine affiliated to Peugeot)

Slow and clanky engines but really reliable !

Sincerely.

Corsaircorp

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Well gentleman, after 3 hours searching Google images, it has yet to bring forth an actual image of a Mk2 with the V4 engine.

I found some interesting pix of an inline 6cyl Mk2 though.  I also found this sales brochure

 http://fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=46969

which show 4 engine options. The 1.6 (standard), 2.0 (optional), 3.0 (LWB) "heavy duty", and the 2.4 diesel.

So obviously, they must be rarer than hens teeth.  But any way you look at it, stuffing Mark's LWB with any motor tantalizes the imagination.

I am very much looking forward to the next update, and sorry Mark, I didn't mean to hyjack your thread!  

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The body shell has now been sprayed white taking full advantage of the spring heat, remember that a couple of days ago?! The Milton Keynes Model Show & Sauna got in the way of further progress, I will try to upload some more build photos soon.

Another delivery from Shapeways containing the Lens and Rotating Lamp unit for the Dale Stem Light, as used on Emergency Vehicles, and the parts for the rally van roof rack arrived today. I may need to buy yet another Italeri Transit.

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On 23/04/2018 at 09:32, gregers said:

Not 100% on this but I seem to remember the V4 was only used in the mk1 Tranny and Capri mk1 and possibly the Taunus. Though when I was a member of the Capri club international I never came across a V4 powered Capri. 

May be worth asking if anyone has a spare engine from an esci/Italeri MK2 Escort? That would be perfect for tthis version of Transit. 

 

All the best

 

Greg.

That kit only  had a inline 4 cylinder engine.

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On 4/23/2018 at 20:32, gregers said:

Not 100% on this but I seem to remember the V4 was only used in the mk1 Tranny and Capri mk1 and possibly the Taunus. Though when I was a member of the Capri club international I never came across a V4 powered Capri. 

May be worth asking if anyone has a spare engine from an esci/Italeri MK2 Escort? That would be perfect for tthis version of Transit. 

 

All the best

 

Greg.

The V4 was also used in the Corsair. It came in 1.7 and 2.0 litre flavours across the range. Always ran a bit rough, with a tendency to strip the phenolic resin timing gear from it's metal hub.

Diesel Transits used the Perkins 4/108. I should know, I rebored hundreds of them....

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There appears to be a sub-thread here about engine options in the Transit and just about any other Ford Vehicle. I'm not complaining about a bit of added info or detail photos of the Transit but the engine discussion is overwhelming this thread.

Perhaps a better place for the engine discussion would be in the 'Discussions' section.

 

Thanks for your understanding

Mark

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Anyhow, here are a couple of post paint photos. Door cards and detail parts yet to be finished.

 

132532.jpg  132450.jpg

 

and the components for the roof rack for the Rally Barge, the longitudinal bars have yet to be separated. As these link the triangulated frames their slight waviness should straighten out. 

 

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A minor hiccup on the build this morning as the van took a nosedive off the bench, resulting in some cracking along the roof joint so it will be back to the paintshop. Anyway to cool off I've decide to make a new one piece rear door with enhanced detail/corrections over the kit part. The CAD file is at Shapeways being laughed at. And I think a tidy up of my workroom is in order too.

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The test build of the roof rack for the Rally service van is well underway, more parts yet to fit. I've yet to decide about filling it with a van load of wheels and tyres.

 

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The roof rack is done. Additional plates have been added to the end frames along with mounting plates to the support legs. The van itself has finally been repaired following the minor damage, has been re-primed and will get top coated today. I've also been busy on drafting some tyres and alternative wheels for the Italeri Escort Mk2, Dunlop treaded A2 195/60-15 [Tarmac] and Dunlop SP61 185/70-15 [Gravel M/S] as an alternative to the slicks in the kit. I'm testing Shapeways' Black Hi-Def Acrylate for the masters on these as the surface is claimed to be smoother than the Frosted resin I usually choose. With these tyres it could be that they form the basis for some multi tyre blocks to fill the rack.

As an aside, someone asked if the rack could be built in a shortened version which, as it's modular, is possible. This would lend itself to being stuck on top of the SWB van.

 

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Regular viewers will recall me mentioning the mishap that befell the van, well it's been repaired and resprayed shown with a trial fit of the tyre rack. The chassis is 99% done and the cab interior parts have been painted prior to being fitted. Then it's onto masking the body for the paint scheme.

 

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