CanDid Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Hello good people, It's been a while since I posted something so why not honour the moment with something if not British so at least from the commonwealth. To me the finest Sabre manufactured, the CAC-27 Avon Sabre. I used Red Roo Models/High Planes conversion together with Hasegawas F86F-30, Eduard wheels, PE and bombs. I also attached a Quickboost bang seat. Alclad2, Ammo and Gunze paints was used togheter with a light Ammo weathering. The detailing of the conversion is excellent but the fit was not that great. I cannot say that it was an easy build but rather a long story of putty rescribing, primer and sanding. Still, I really enjoyed the challenge. I wanted an early look with the black cockpit, so I choose the subject A94-971 from RAAF 3 Squadron presented as a bomber during the Malayan Emergency. I only read about the Avon Sabre being used as a bomber, never finding any pictures, so the bomb racks are improvised. The conversion kit decals where excellent, but the decal instructions Was hard to interpret as pictures and text doesn’t match. I have only found one pictures of half the plane and I have never seen an Avon Sabre IRL (though I’d love to), so I hope I have not made too many mistakes. Thank you for looking :-) Cheers! /Fred Edited April 9, 2018 by CanDid New pictures with corrected hard pionts added 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I really like the Sabre and enjoy seeing them done in Alternative or non Korean war markings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Lovely not shake and bake but the results are great after all the hard work rgds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 You have done you have done a superb job there, I love your clean finish. note: you have your speedbrakes on the wrong sides, RH & LH should be reversed as they are upside down at present. Model On!! Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Very nice Sabre. I've been lucky enough to see one fly a few times, always a great sight. I have one of these in the stash, must get around to it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanDid Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 2018-02-24 at 8:10 AM, Tony Edmundson said: note: you have your speedbrakes on the wrong sides, RH & LH should be reversed as they are upside down at present. Tony, thnx for telling, sorted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilks Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Fabulous result there... Nicely executed. Cheers, Wilks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I can only see the last two photos, but I like what I see! Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Alan P said: I can only see the last two photos, but I like what I see! Alan Yes same here I can only see the last two pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 the pics are down while Fred fixes his speedbrakes, I suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanDid Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Alan P said: I can only see the last two photos, but I like what I see! Alan Hi, i don't know what went wrong, I could see all five all the time. Nevertheless, I have now changed the links so I hope they work now. /Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisTheBear Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Nice! My understanding is that bombs were carried on the outer pylon stations. Not an expert so could easily be very wrong. DennisTheBear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacificmustang Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 lovely finish and build. Also well photographed Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanDid Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 14 hours ago, DennisTheBear said: Nice! My understanding is that bombs were carried on the outer pylon stations. Not an expert so could easily be very wrong. DennisTheBear You might also be very right, I can’t argue since I don’t know. I only found text saying she could carry up to 1000lb bombs. I opted for 2x500lb of British origin, don’t even know if that’s truly correct, but at least bombs used by the Canberra, i.e. where the Avon Sabre got the engine idea from. I would be glad for a picture better than the one I used since is from a Korea Sabre http://acepilots.com/korea/georgia-peach-3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Hi Fred, This is beautiful! The Avon Sabre is one of the best IMHO, and you have really done it justice, well done indeed. I especially love the surface finish and very fine and subtle weathering. I'm working on a 1/72 version at the moment somewhere here as a WIP. I don't think it will end up looking this good! Cheers Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Very tasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilks Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Just outstanding. Superbly executed... AGW.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 12:13 AM, DennisTheBear said: Nice! My understanding is that bombs were carried on the outer pylon stations. Not an expert so could easily be very wrong. DennisTheBear I've never seen a CAC Sabre with bombs, and definitely not on the inboard Sidewinder pylons. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJP Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 That's one very neatly finished Avon Sabre - great photography too CJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rui Silva Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Amazing Sabre, congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 fantastic! I really like the bomb load on the inboard pylons! something different on a Sabre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme H Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Very nice job, great photography Like Tony, I have never seen an Avon Sabre with bombs, and i'm of an age where I saw just about all of them, I lived as a child in Malaysia, and my father served in the RAAF as an Engine Fitter Saying that, I would never say never. some photos of your bird, including in that colour scheme are on ADF serials http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/Sabre-A94-971 If you want to see a real one, the nearest one to you could be at Kbely in the Czech Republic if it's still there, A94-923, still a long way away though. http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/Sabre-A94-923 They did for a time use underwing rockets, but I think by the '60's they had given up on those http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/Sabre-A94-979/JP_2A94_979 I clearly remember as a younger child when we lived near Williamtown AFB in the late '50's when I think 16 of those fell off an aircraft about 2 kms from our house, didn't explode though as they had been wired up incorrectly, which is why they all fell off in one go. More common on that would be the Sidewinder, uncommon to see a Sidewinder mounted on a Sabre in Australia, but much more common to see them in Malaysia, where your model was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanDid Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 On 2018-04-05 at 11:43 PM, Graeme H said: Like Tony, I have never seen an Avon Sabre with bombs, and i'm of an age where I saw just about all of them, I lived as a child in Malaysia, and my father served in the RAAF as an Engine Fitter Saying that, I would never say never. More common on that would be the Sidewinder, uncommon to see a Sidewinder mounted on a Sabre in Australia, but much more common to see them in Malaysia, where your model was. I fully trust you all with your info. As I mentioned I have never seen an Avon Sabre live (though grown up to the sight and sound of Avon powered Swedish Draken interceptors) one day hope I will. Thank you for the tip To make the model a bit more correct she is currently back on the cutting mat for some surgery (new pictures will follow). The bomb racks I first made have been removed and new ones scratched, right now being primed and prepared for paint. Some paint and weathering touch ups on the airframe will be added. I will also move the new racks outwards since at least thats where the U.S. planes carried their bombs. The whole bomb idea comes from this text found on: http://www.3squadron.org.au ”Due to the absence of air threats in the conflict, 3SQN became primarily a ground attack squadron, targeting communist guerrilla infrastructure in support of the Malayan and Commonwealth troop presence on the ground. 3SQN carried out its first operation against communist guerrillas on 13 August 1959. In a joint bombing raid with 77SQN, six Sabres from each squadron took off with 500lb high-explosive bombs underwing, and destroyed three terrorist training camps.”. /Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme H Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) Well there you go, as I said, never saw them, and I was in Malaysia at that time, although living on Penang Island, and Butterworth is across the water on the mainland and Dad and all the RAAF personnel had to do a daily ferry ride across to the base. However given the source that info would have to be correct, and they would definitely been US type racks, might send off an email to 3 Sqn to see if they have any photos Late Edit While surfing the 3 Sqn site, I came across this photo, which may be a help for you 3sqn_armourers_malaya60-bg by qfa_tsv, on Flickr The bomb on the RH side of the photo even has the pylon Edited April 6, 2018 by Graeme H additional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanDid Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 That is just brilliant my friend. Thank you for sharing feed-back, knowledge and help. Without your doubts, perfectly based on your own experience, I would probably never seen this picture This is why I love the hobby and this forum, you will always get help and constructive feedback, no matter if it is the subject itself or the techniques used. This way, things that are not real (but better or worse interpretations), gets a place in history portraying what once was. If I may share a little story. I have mentioned growing up with J35D Drakens flying above, I alwas was impressed by their bombload as a young boy. The memories of the sun reflecting on the two bare metal bombs under the belly as the planes turned for landing just above the school yard. Well, they are not bombs but external fuel tanks...but that is something I learned very much later 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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