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Hello folks,

 

I have a novice tank builder question for the armour biased brethren regarding the M4 Sherman variants that could be used in conjunction with the LCM III I'm intending to build for this GB; I have a Tamiya M4A3E8 'Easy Eight' which is fine, its apparently a nice kit which I got for a very good price but having done some increasingly confusing research I feel that it may not be pertinent to the D-Day landings. The Easy Eight had HVSS which I assume would make it difficult to back date so an alternative will need to be sourced, so;

 

My question is, which U.S. operated M4 variant is most prominent for use in the D-Day timeline of this GB? 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Mark.

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I'll pop my head above the parapet for this one. Put me in with the clanky tanky mob. Big fan of the Tamiya 1\48 armour, I already have a Churchill and an Achilles in the stash. Is the Achilles admissable? If I go Churchill it won't be the Crocodile as I don't like flamethrowers always struck me as rather "unsporting"! Might look for a DD conversion for a Sherman. Or even a Universal Carrier. Dunno.

 

But I'm in 😎

 

Edit: Achilles went ashore on D-day with Royal Artillery and the Canadian Royal Artillery. So it's a possible.

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49 minutes ago, Rumblestripe said:

I'll pop my head above the parapet for this one. Put me in with the clanky tanky mob. Big fan of the Tamiya 1\48 armour, I already have a Churchill and an Achilles in the stash. Is the Achilles admissable? If I go Churchill it won't be the Crocodile as I don't like flamethrowers always struck me as rather "unsporting"! Might look for a DD conversion for a Sherman. Or even a Universal Carrier. Dunno.

 

But I'm in 😎

 

Edit: Achilles went ashore on D-day with Royal Artillery and the Canadian Royal Artillery. So it's a possible.

The British 11th Armoured were sporting lots of Achilles / M10's as they rampaged through Normandy - but I'm not an expert - just a keen amateur :blush:

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45 minutes ago, BIG X said:

The British 11th Armoured were sporting lots of Achilles / M10's as they rampaged through Normandy - but I'm not an expert - just a keen amateur :blush:

That'd be the Divisional AT regiment, the 75th Anti-tank Regiment, Royal Artillery.

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I think I'm probably going to go for a Tamiya 1/35 Centaur Mk.IV from the Royal Marines Artillery Support Group.

 

I may back it up with an Airfix Beaufighter converted to a Mk.VI, with all the stripy goodness that implies.

 

However, in the back of my mind there is a small voice screaming "Horsa! Horsa!"

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4 hours ago, Procopius said:

That'd be the Divisional AT regiment, the 75th Anti-tank Regiment, Royal Artillery.

That's right - 2 batteries - however many that is :blush:

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....which one??

 

I had been intending to build my "Shark's Mouth" Typhoon but this particular aircraft wasn't flying till Jan45. So it's out of the air for me and into the dirt with a pair of Axis "Specialists"..... gee wouldn't that be a name of a good GB??? :whistle:

 

So one will be a Flak 38t and the other a Befehlsjager 38, just for something completely different.

 

Just been looking up both models parts count, combined it's around 2300!! I know that a lot aren't used (maybe 1/2) but for such small models...and I haven't added PE yet! 

 

I'm playing Co-Host for this one so it should be a lot of fun and a huge GB!!!

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2 hours ago, Enzo Matrix said:

I think I'm probably going to go for a Tamiya 1/35 Centaur Mk.IV from the Royal Marines Artillery Support Group.

 

I may back it up with an Airfix Beaufighter converted to a Mk.VI, with all the stripy goodness that implies.

 

However, in the back of my mind there is a small voice screaming "Horsa! Horsa!"

I see Bronco have a nice 1/35th version, now I know you want to build one of these!!

 

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/393494-bronco-cb35195-airspeed-a-s-51-horsa-glider-mk-i

 

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9 hours ago, wimbledon99 said:

Can anyone direct me to a Stuka (87) kit (or markings) that would be suitable for this build? Thought this would be so much easier to sort than the Hurri but it appears not to be so :facepalm:

Good morning Wimbledon99

I am not a Luftwaffe expert but I don't think that the Stuka was used during the Normandy Landings ..

 

Cheers

Patrice

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Morning Patrice,

 

I have found plenty of references on 'the Web' to say that they were used but I'm having a problem finding the correct markings for the location.

 

NO worries, I'll have a think about another option in the new year. 3rd time lucky (hopefully)!! :smile:

 

Cheers

 

Nigel

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15 hours ago, wimbledon99 said:

Can anyone direct me to a Stuka (87) kit (or markings) that would be suitable for this build? Thought this would be so much easier to sort than the Hurri but it appears not to be so :facepalm:

 

5 hours ago, TEMPESTMK5 said:

Good morning Wimbledon99

I am not a Luftwaffe expert but I don't think that the Stuka was used during the Normandy Landings ..

 

Cheers

Patrice

They may or may not have been used on D-Day itself - but they were certainly used against the 11th armoured later in the campaign - I don't which units though :blush: 

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There is mention of a Stuka unit being bounced by American Mustangs on the 6th of June .  Apparently they were rebasing to Le Mans in order to be in position to attack shipping around Caen the following day.  Looks like there are a number of choices available for the type of Ju87 to model:

 

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=20172&page=3

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=27785

 

Ju 87D-3, 2653, Klunth, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew wounded due to enemy fire. Crashed., Ju 87A per loss., Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ofw. Rumpler, ,
Ju 87H-6, , n.n., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Notlandung due to enemy fire. Bf wounded., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 40%, H, Bf Ofw. Marschering, ,
Ju 87C-3, 1289, Uhlhaas, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew wounded due to enemy fire. Crashed., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 80%, H, Bf Ofw. Gottschalk, ,
Ju 87, 1247, Genrich, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew missing due to enemy fire., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ofw. Ochmanik, ,
Ju 87C, 1214, Rüchenschütze, Uffz., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Killed due to enemy fire. Bf wounded. Crashed., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ogefr. Schröder, ,
Ju 87C-4, 1194, n.n., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Notlandung due to enemy fire. Bf wounded., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 60%, H, Bf Ofw. Kather, ,
Ju 87C-4, 2094, Wirner, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew wounded due to enemy fire. Notlandung., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 60%, H, Bf Uffz. Steyer, ,
Ju 87D-3, 2398, Skupin, Oblt., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Killed due to enemy fire. Bf wounded. Notlandung., Ju 87 (V3) WNr. 7868 per loss, corrected., Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.1, , Voves, 65%, H, Bf Ofw. John, ,
Ju 87B-6, 2196, Rachau, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Wounded due to enemy fire. Bf killed. Crashed., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ofw. Micke, ,

 

regards,

Jack

 

 

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40 minutes ago, JackG said:

There is mention of a Stuka unit being bounced by American Mustangs on the 6th of June .  Apparently they were rebasing to Le Mans in order to be in position to attack shipping around Caen the following day.  Looks like there are a number of choices available for the type of Ju87 to model:

 

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=20172&page=3

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=27785

 

Ju 87D-3, 2653, Klunth, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew wounded due to enemy fire. Crashed., Ju 87A per loss., Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ofw. Rumpler, ,
Ju 87H-6, , n.n., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Notlandung due to enemy fire. Bf wounded., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 40%, H, Bf Ofw. Marschering, ,
Ju 87C-3, 1289, Uhlhaas, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew wounded due to enemy fire. Crashed., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 80%, H, Bf Ofw. Gottschalk, ,
Ju 87, 1247, Genrich, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew missing due to enemy fire., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ofw. Ochmanik, ,
Ju 87C, 1214, Rüchenschütze, Uffz., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Killed due to enemy fire. Bf wounded. Crashed., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ogefr. Schröder, ,
Ju 87C-4, 1194, n.n., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Notlandung due to enemy fire. Bf wounded., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 60%, H, Bf Ofw. Kather, ,
Ju 87C-4, 2094, Wirner, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Crew wounded due to enemy fire. Notlandung., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 60%, H, Bf Uffz. Steyer, ,
Ju 87D-3, 2398, Skupin, Oblt., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Killed due to enemy fire. Bf wounded. Notlandung., Ju 87 (V3) WNr. 7868 per loss, corrected., Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.1, , Voves, 65%, H, Bf Ofw. John, ,
Ju 87B-6, 2196, Rachau, Ofw., , , Einsatz.St., SG 103, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Wounded due to enemy fire. Bf killed. Crashed., Ju 87D?, Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.105, , Voves, 100%, H, Bf Ofw. Micke, ,

 

regards,

Jack

 

 

Wow - Thanks Jack! I'll see if there are any decals out there

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Thank you Dennis.

 

I've been searching high and low and have conceded that I need a 3rd option. I've been looking at FW190s and found a few 'Priller' kits. These appear to fit the window perfectly from what I'm reading so just need to find one at a nice price 🤞

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6 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

Hello @wimbledon99 ... “Pips” Priller is my favorite luftwaffe pilot. He was notorious for not liking berlin and high command. If i can help i will. 

Are you saying you have a kit to donate, Dennis?? Wait - I jest :laugh:

 

In all seriousness, I've always been tempted to have a go at a German aircraft but the paint schemes have put me off (they look so difficult). However, I may just take the bull by the horns and have a bash for this GB. I knew nothing (shamefully) of Josef Priller until looking for a kit that fits the GB criteria so again, I've learned something. I have my eye on a Dragon kit (I thought they only did AFVs; another lesson :whistle: ) so may have a go with this if one comes along at a steal.

 

Cheers

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