Fozzy Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Sorry about the first two photos guys!...I accidentally deleted them off postimage hence breaking the link!......I will down load them again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 He is Human!!!! Simon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I dunno about it being because they were of a real B-17 Fozzy, all of them look like a real B-17 to me Wonderful modelmaking 👌👍👏👏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Yes Simon!....human and a berk!!.....I'll down load them tomorrow as I'm off to Bedfordshire....night night! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 More great modelling Fozzy - realistic as always! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 5/29/2019 at 12:24 AM, Fozzy said: as I'm off to Bedfordshire....night night! Shouldn't that be "Berkshire"? 😉 Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) Hi guys Well it's been nearly a month now since my last post what with family staying and this and that etc etc( you know the drill...getting in the way of modelling!)...but finally I'm now back at dealing with this B17G! ...and it was time to tackle the complicated ball turret hanging system!.......After looking at loads of confusing photos of the task at hand I decided that the only way to replicate it was to try and break it down into small stages.....wasn't going to be easy ...but then that's the challenge I guess! So I started with the frame work and the bits and bobs at the bottom that fits onto the turning mechanism above the ball turret...here's a few photos...... I was about to attach the upright tube ( plastic flag stick that luckily was the correct scale!) when I noticed that I would have to adjust the walkway that goes around the turret as it was too large and I would never be able to continue with the hanging structure!.....annoying as I had to take of the glued floor carefully off and then re shape it and then replace it and make good!...any way after that problem was solved I had the next problem of repeatedly placing the top section of the fuselage.... as a dry run fit ....to see if the tube aligned up correctly with the ceiling connection!....that I have to say took some time and patience!...of course in the process I knocked of the radio ops seat and some radio stacks from the radio room floor!...I have left them off for the time being whilst I deal with this nightmare! Once that was all sorted I gave this section some paint after first placing some cables and wiring on....here are some photos...... Now......I could have left it there!.......but I think you know me by now😉 The B17G had a system for carrying extra ammunition that fed automatically into the ball turret....after looking at photos I decided to at least have a go at it and if it was too complicated then I could just not bother with them. Basically it was two ammunition cans suspended above the ball and bolted to the frame work.Being two cans they of course had to be symmetrical...and that is something I find difficult to do...especially the round feeds that were like S- shaped channels! The rounds were made by cutting small gauge wire to size (at least 50!!) and the glued in between 2 pieces of the S-shaped feeds.....some of the rounds could be seen through inspection ports....hence bothering with making the rounds! Any way here are the pretty rough looking examples of the ammunition cans and feed chutes....will look better in situ and with paint on....I hope! It was time to attach the ammo cans to the hanging structure....... The next task was nearly impossible to do and that was to make the lower supports for the cans.....it took ages but got there in the end!.......all I had to do now was to paint it all..... OK So that is as far as I have got so far. I still have to make a couple of ammunition belts and the oxygen tank for the turret and then I can think of closing the two halves in preparation for the external detail! I have to say although challenging this part of the build was ......I thoroughly enjoyed myself!🙂 Till the next post....take care guys! Fozzy Edited June 25, 2019 by Fozzy 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 That is fantastic work there Fozzy. Having the B 17 G in the stash and trying to remember the feeds for the ball turret and what you have created is beyond belief. Carry on sir. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Another Fozzy Masterclass, your ought to write a book! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 Thanks for your support Simon and Tony C....it really helps!😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthemodeller Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Your attention to detail never ceases to amaze me! For interest, how did they get the ammunition from the two emergency boxes into the ball? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, brianthemodeller said: Your attention to detail never ceases to amaze me! For interest, how did they get the ammunition from the two emergency boxes into the ball? Cheers Brian.... The rounds were gravity fed through the S-shaped chutes which were then in turn connected to the top of the ball and into the round boxes inside the turret....bloody clever I think!...1940s etc! Because I have exposed the top of my ball turret for viewing purposes the connection wont be seen but I have built it so you can see the rounds in the ball turret boxes.....the emergency round feeds I will hang up on two pegs as I hope you will see in my next post!....cheers mate! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzulscha Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 That looks terrific Fozzy! I could have used those photos while I was doing my ball turret. My B-17 stuff is done but I will keep watching this thread for the craftsmanship anyway! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tzulscha said: That looks terrific Fozzy! I could have used those photos while I was doing my ball turret. My B-17 stuff is done but I will keep watching this thread for the craftsmanship anyway! Cheers Tzulscha!....Yes I saw your B17....and I thought my 1:20 scale was large! ha ha!.....good job...well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Superb stuff Fozzy, as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusty one Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Absolutely amazing Fozzy👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Afternoon guys! This post will finish up all the interior detail I needed to do before closing both top and bottom halves of the fuselage and then I can proceed to finish off the detail on the exterior of the fuselage. So what needed to be done was the ammunition belts from the emergency ammunition cans and the oxygen bottle for the gunner. I'll start with the ammunition belts.....By using just paper and wire I'd thought I would show you how I went about this task ..photo by photo... 1. The first task was to cut 4 pieces of paper to the length/width of the belts....I used paper as it will bend like a real ammo belt... 2. As you can see I then cut all 4 pieces..(you will see in the next few photos why I did this!)... 3. I then got some garden metal wire twine (I chose this as it looked the right scale for the rounds)... 4. This then had to be straightened using a flat piece of metal rolled across the top of a length of wire...... 5. After measuring the width of the pieces of paper I then had to cut... (loads!!).... of pieces of wire which would replicate the rounds,....laborious task!...although I don't actually mind doing it!! 6. These were the super glued onto 2 of the 4 strips of paper.... 7. Then the other strips of paper were glued over the top of the rounds This is the time that I bent the paper to the shape I needed.... 8. A couple strips of paper were cut and glued to both sides of the belts to make them look more authentic and I then painted them..... So now all I had to do was super glue one end of the belts to the ammo cans and hook up the other ends on a couple of posts....(the reason for this is that because I have exposed the top of the ball turret I couldn't glue them to the entry point of the turret!)...here are a few photos of the task complete...... The last task to do before closing the two halves was to scratch the oxygen tank for the gunner. I have so far made loads of oxygen tanks for this project so I just made them the same way as before....and that is a sanded down piece of balsa wood with plastic strips glued to them!......here it is.... I then glued the tank onto the post and made a couple of paper straps ....to replicate the securing straps! So here is the finished Ball turret connection structure...... So now its at long last time to place the top to the bottom!!..ha ha! I am now getting close to the end of the Radio room section of this B17G....the external detail will now have to be thought about before proceeding......so I'll see you all the next time around! Thanks again for looking in Fozzy 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 OK Fozzy, lovely work , hand made ammo belts. But where is the Hershley bar dispenser ? Carry on mate, scratch building is an art form, and you`ve got it sir. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthemodeller Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I really wanted to post a witty response but, to be honest, words fail me; it’s just too good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I couldn't for the life of me see how the emergency ammo containers could work, until I studied your work a little closer and realised that they rotated with the turret. That's quite incredible to think that I could figure that out from your model! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusty one Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Just watching your skill at this is a privilege mate👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Thanks a lot guys! 4 hours ago, limeypilot said: I couldn't for the life of me see how the emergency ammo containers could work, until I studied your work a little closer and realised that they rotated with the turret. That's quite incredible to think that I could figure that out from your model! Ian Thanks Ian.....Its un believable the amount I have learnt my self about the B17 by doing this project...staring endlessly at photos trying to get it right!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Once again, that is an incredible amount of dedicated, precision work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 11 hours ago, The Crusty one said: Just watching your skill at this is a privilege mate👍 Never a truer word spoken 👍 Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Some days, some threads the impossible becomes Beyond belief We see it done, watching avidly on the way Then this just beggars belief Wow and thanks Fozzy, we b'ain't worthy mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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