Col. Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said: That gives me hope for my Albanian Mig-15... An Albanian MiG-15 you say John? I like the sound of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, Col. said: An Albanian MiG-15 Yes...I have the markings but little in the way of confirming which decade... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, John D.C. Masters said: I have the markings Alas...my markings are from the Blue Rider sheet and are all 1960 and after based on the roundel design. I'll just have to build one anyway for fun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, John D.C. Masters said: Yes...I have the markings but little in the way of confirming which decade... Are you able to post an image of the markings in question? Perhaps someone here can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Sure Col. Belay what I have said. Red 14 is a Mig from1958/60. The rest are all from the 1970s... Edited January 17, 2019 by John D.C. Masters hmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 This is also a good source... http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/albania/af/albaf-nat-markings.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 How about the Mig I-320? I know it was a prototype and only flew about 50 or 60 times, but they did make it ready for frontline duty--even though it was soon scrapped. Would the I-320 be allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said: How about the Mig I-320? I know it was a prototype and only flew about 50 or 60 times, but they did make it ready for frontline duty--even though it was soon scrapped. Would the I-320 be allowed? I would personally ask @Col. allow You and only You to participate in this GB with the experimental I-320 model, provided that You show the public at least one photo of the cockpit of the real I-320! 😉😁👿 B.R. Serge P.S. B.w. John, if You will be maked I-320 on other GB with open airbrake, know there is an error in the interior! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I wouldn't be sad if Col said 'no'. Only two prototypes were built and they never really used them that much... It would be good for the upcoming Prototype GB...😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The more research I do the more I understand that from the beginning of the Cold War to 1958 (intro of the Mig-17) the Mig-15 and its variants were the only real jet fighter choices for the Warsaw Pact. All the other producers were either making bombers (Ilyushin), stuck in a prototype/failure cycle or still making successful piston aircraft. Not that I am complaining. I could make the Mig-15 until the cows come home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 39 minutes ago, John D.C. Masters said: The more research I do the more I understand that from the beginning of the Cold War to 1958 (intro of the Mig-17) the Mig-15 and its variants were the only real jet fighter choices for the Warsaw Pact. All the other producers were either making bombers (Ilyushin), stuck in a prototype/failure cycle or still making successful piston aircraft. ?????? 1. MiG-9, 2. МiG-15 3. MiG-17 4. MiG-19 5. Yak-15, 6. Yak-17, 7. Yak-23, 8. Yak-25, 9. Yak-27( controversially, interceptors released a small series - 5 examples and most likely they were not used in combat units, but one alive), 10. La-15. 11. Avia S-92 To my great regret, the Su-7 fits the list, just because the only aviation units that operated it were in the Far East, although one that makes Modelsvit somehow ended up in Kharkov, and another was in Moscow. And yes, MiG-21F made with 1959 year, and probably red "02" maked Modelsvit fits too. B.R. Serge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I stand corrected, although the ubiquitous history of the Mig-15 says something about both its popularity and high production numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, John D.C. Masters said: ubiquitous history of the Mig-15 says something about both its popularity and high production numbers Clear fortune Mikoyan & Lavochkin's fatal bad luck .... La-168 was better than the MiG-15 in most parameters .... but .... but I’m going to talk about this in my La-15 topic. B.R. Serge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Aardvark said: Avia S-92 I have one of these on the list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 20 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said: Sure Col. Belay what I have said. Red 14 is a Mig from1958/60. The rest are all from the 1970s... I'm thinking Red 14 is a MiG-15, is that correct? 18 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said: How about the Mig I-320? I know it was a prototype and only flew about 50 or 60 times, but they did make it ready for frontline duty--even though it was soon scrapped. Would the I-320 be allowed? 15 hours ago, John D.C. Masters said: I wouldn't be sad if Col said 'no'. Only two prototypes were built and they never really used them that much... It would be good for the upcoming Prototype GB...😉 I'll say no for the I-320 due to its prototype status and not entering front-line service. Now, about this Prototype GB, that sounds interesting! 13 hours ago, Aardvark said: Clear fortune Mikoyan & Lavochkin's fatal bad luck .... La-168 was better than the MiG-15 in most parameters .... but .... but I’m going to talk about this in my La-15 topic. B.R. Serge My understanding is that Mikoyan Gurevich was the fortunate recipient of Stalin's personal favour to the detriment of other aircraft manufacturers but I'm happy to be corrected and learn the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Col. said: Red 14 is a MiG-15, is that correct? It is! I'm in luck. 21 minutes ago, Col. said: Stalin's personal favour That'll do it! Don't want to disappoint Uncle Joe. 22 minutes ago, Col. said: I'll say no for the I-320 due to its prototype status My feelings too. What about the Avia S-92? They really didn't make too many of those either. 5 single seaters and 3 trainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, John D.C. Masters said: It is! I'm in luck. .... What about the Avia S-92? They really didn't make too many of those either. 5 single seaters and 3 trainers. Woohoo! A lucky guess on my part Avia S-92 is fine in my opinion as it had front-line service and would have been thrown into battle should things have got interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) That's cool. I'll do that after the Thunderjet. I am waiting for the decals to arrive from the Big Yellow Store. Edited January 18, 2019 by John D.C. Masters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, John D.C. Masters said: That's cool. I'll do that after the Thunderjet. I am waiting for the decals to arrive from the Big Yellow Store. Cool. Have a Hasegawa -262 with a rather comprehensive Eduard etched brass set and decals for an S-92 buried in the stash as well but there's really is such an array of potential options for this GB I'm struggling to chose one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Col. said: My understanding is that Mikoyan Gurevich was the fortunate recipient of Stalin's personal favour to the detriment of other aircraft manufacturers Initially, Stalin’s favorite was Yakovlev https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Sergeyevich_Yakovlev * (who does not know, Yakovlev in the bottom row in a cap): Resource photo & memories A.S. Yakovlev about Stalin: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.fishki.net/anti/2145529-vospominanija-aviakonstruktora-a-jakovleva-o-staline.html%3Famp%3D1 Yakovlev's first wife was Lidiya Rudinkina: https://books.google.ru/books?id=YnpQAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT95&lpg=PT95&dq=Л.+Рудинкиной&source=bl&ots=sedZf3I0Fr&sig=ACfU3U0fSFYPndtMUrlVIh_KTVlG03OMbA&hl=ru&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjcwsi3sfffAhUHEiwKHZqvBQQQ6AEwAHoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=Л. Рудинкиной&f=false that everyone knew as a niece Jan Earnestovich Ruzutak (Jānis Rudzutaks): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jānis_Rudzutaks * , but in fact she was the daughter of his deceased friend. Ruzutak in turn, was married to a foster daughter Lenin and Krupskaya, but not least he held the position People's Commissar of Workers and Peasants Inspection of the USSR: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabkrin * In addition, some authors Yakovlev associated with the head of the government Rykov: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Rykov * Most likely, these connections helped Yakovlev to gain confidence in Stalin. Ruzutak & Rykov were repressed in 1938, Yakovlev escaped repression, but had to divorce with first wife. A.S. Yakovlev from January 11, 1940 to 1946, was simultaneously Deputy Commissar of the Aviation Industry for a New Technology, and from March 1946 Deputy Minister of the Aviation Industry (for general issues). In July 1946, left the post of deputy minister of his own accord. Artem Mikoyan was brother Anastas Mikoyan (right on photo) : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastas_Mikoyan * who was Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR . Most likely in 1946, Yakovlev lost Stalin’s confidence, perhaps this is due to the underestimation of jet aircraft, perhaps for other reasons. Very probably Artem Mikoyan have Anastas Mikoyan as his lobbyist before Stalin, but his influence was not the same as that of Yakovlev. B.R. Serge ______________ * - I'am highly recommend read Russian version Wikipedia, because this article more full then English version: https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Рудзутак,_Ян_Эрнестович https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Рабоче-крестьянская_инспекция https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Яковлев,_Александр_Сергеевич https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Рыков,_Алексей_Иванович https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Микоян,_Анастас_Иванович Edited January 18, 2019 by Aardvark 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Feel free to begin whenever you are ready gang. This GB is now underway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Yay! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Col. said: Feel free to begin whenever you are ready gang. This GB is now underway Sadly I've got some studying to do otherwise I would've loved to participate in this GB as it's about my favourite period in history, that wonderful mix of the old and new! Instead I shall watch from the sidelines and occasionally chip in with the odd comment. Good luck to all in this GB. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, Wez said: Sadly I've got some studying to do otherwise I would've loved to participate in this GB as it's about my favourite period in history, that wonderful mix of the old and new! Instead I shall watch from the sidelines and occasionally chip in with the odd comment. Good luck to all in this GB. I recall you saying it was bad timing due to your studies Wez but hopefully this GB will provide plenty inspiration for your own future projects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Need some help folk.I fancy a couple of small scale military build's and looking at ICM' s 1/72 range like the BTR 152 variant's and the Zil 157 variant's are they eligable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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