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[Homebee]

Pics, schemes & instructions

- ref. 72517 - PZL P.11a - https://nowosci.plastikowe.pl/aktualnosci/r-ibg-models-pzl-p-11a-72517/
- ref. 72523 - PZL P.11g Kobuz - https://nowosci.plastikowe.pl/aktualnosci/r-ibg-models-pzl-p-11g-kobuz-72523/

 

V.P.

 

Edited September 30, 2019 by Homebee

[caughtinthemiddle]

Even more comprehensive inbox review of PZL P.11g Kobuz: http://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-72-pzl-p-11g-kobuz-ibg-models/

[Torbjorn]

Certainly looks good.

[JWM]

I have realized that P11G shadowed P11A, but in fact the appearance of model of the latest is a true novelty regarding Sept 39 models. AFAIR some 20 of PZL P11a were used in September 1939 fights, some were evacuated to Romania and there are numerous differences between P11a and P11c , maybe bigger then between Messer Emil and Gustav...Wiki says about P11c differences compared to P11a:

"The P.11c would be the principal (and final) variant of the type to be inducted into the Polish Air Force. First reaching fighter squadrons during late 1935, it featured the adoption of a new, refined fuselage, a major change of which being the relocation of the engine to be 13 cm lower down in the aircraft's nose, which had the advantage of providing the pilot with an improved exterior view.[10] Besides, a new stronger engine Mercury V S2 had smaller diameter. Forward framework was longer, covering an enlarged and more comfortable cockpit, with pilot's seat moved 30 cm rearwards and raised by 5 cm.[9] The central part of the wings was also modified. During 1934, production of the P.11c commenced, by 1936, the type was being produced at a rate of 25 fighters per month; in total, 150 aircraft were produced by the end of production in 1936 (older sources quoted a number of 175, which is not confirmed in any documents).[9] The first series of approximately 50 P.11c aircraft were fitted with Mercury V S2 of 600 hp (447 kW), the rest with Mercury VI S2 of 630 hp (470 kW).[1]"

Cheers

J-W

 

Edited October 1, 2019 by JWM

[Piotr Mikolajski]

Well, in fact both are novelties.

 

P.11as were released earlier: in 1988 as vacu by JMK and in 2000s and 2010s as poor quality resin kits which were copies of that vacu improved with different parts from other injection kits. Overpriced, hard to build and certainly not worthy cash and effort.

P.11g was released only once, it was resin ripoff of Azur kits and MPM was not happy seeing their kits copied. As a kit of Kobuz this resin was full of errors, so certainly not worth of its price.

[caughtinthemiddle]

P.11a inbox review: http://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-72-pzl-p-11a-ibg-models/

[Seboo]

22 hours ago, caughtinthemiddle said:

P.11a inbox review: http://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-72-pzl-p-11a-ibg-models/

Rivet counting taken to the extreme. Mr Sztarbala is using a microscope to check the surface of the wings. OMG 

 

PS. I know he says it's only done to extend the length of the review. 🙂  

[caughtinthemiddle]

10 hours ago, Seboo said:

Rivet counting taken to the extreme. Mr Sztarbala is using a microscope to check the surface of the wings. OMG 

 

PS. I know he says it's only done to extend the length of the review. 🙂  

Kind of a joke in this case, although this microscope is actually a very useful tool for figure painting when your eyes reach a certain age

Edited October 6, 2019 by caughtinthemiddle

[caughtinthemiddle]

Build review of the PZL P.11g kit: https://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-72-pzl-p-11g-kobuz-ibg-models-budowa/

[JWM]

1 hour ago, caughtinthemiddle said:

Build review of the PZL P.11g kit: https://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-72-pzl-p-11g-kobuz-ibg-models-budowa/

Looks very nice, although some construction problems are annunced in the quoted here review

Cheers

J-W

 

[Homebee]

In box review in your favourite forum - ref. 72523 - PZL P.11g Kobuz

Source: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235065422-pzl-p11g-kobuz-polish-fighter/

 

V.P.

[Homebee]

In the 2020 catalog some new box art

 

 

V.P.

 

 

Edited January 29, 2020 by Homebee

[Homebee]

Release expected in early July 2020 - ref. 72518 - PZL P.11b in Romanian Service

Sources: 

https://www.facebook.com/ibgmodels/photos/pcb.3120812311373725/3120810371373919

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/IBG72518

 

And videos "How to build":  http://www.ibgmodels.com/pzl-p-11b-building-and-painting-by-oneseventwo-scalemodelling/

https://youtu.be/n9A8-Zg_JAg

https://youtu.be/TKyl_ZN7o8w

https://youtu.be/S_TAjhy0Lek

https://youtu.be/fZkS9b1Lhu4

https://youtu.be/YTVftk_ZrHY

https://youtu.be/smep6c0W9qw

 

 

 

V.P.

Edited August 26, 2020 by Homebee

[JWM]

Short info: the P11b was export (to Romania) variant of P11a, with different engine, instead of Bristol Mercury the Gnome-Rhone Mistral was installed. Some 50 build and delivered in 1934, remains  of them were in service as advanced trainer in Romania during WW2.

Regards

J-W

[Botan]

9 minutes ago, JWM said:

Short info: the P11b was export (to Romania) variant of P11a, with different engine, instead of Bristol Mercury the Gnome-Rhone Mistral was installed. Some 50 build and delivered in 1934, remains  of them were in service as advanced trainer in Romania during WW2.

Regards

J-W

Some had shorter engine nacelles if I remember correctly. I would love to have them in the box, it would make aircraft a bit different from other P.11 fighter. Difference is shown on that 48 scale kit boxart on scalemates.

[Homebee]

Released - ref. 72518 - PZL P.11b in Romanian Service

Source: https://www.facebook.com/ibgmodels/posts/3197991553655800

 

 

V.P.

[Homebee]

Soon - ref. 72519 - PZL P.11c

Source: http://www.ibgmodels.com/coming-soon/

 

 

V.P.

[Homebee]

A - ref. 72518 - PZL P.11b in Romanian Service review in your favourite forum:

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235079157-pzl-p11b fighter-in-romanian-service-72518-172-ibg/

V.P.

[Homebee]

From the 2021 catalogue

Source: http://www.ibgmodels.com/instr/IBG_models_KATALOG_2021.pdf

 

 

V.P.

[Homebee]

Release expected mid-May 2021 - ref. 72519 - PZL P.11c Polish Fighter

Sources: $

https://www.facebook.com/ibgmodels/photos/pcb.3976311919157089/3976303862491228/

http://www.ibgmodels.com/72519-2

Box art

 

 

V.P.

Edited April 13, 2021 by Homebee

[Homebee]

Source: https://www.facebook.com/ibgmodels/posts/4119343288187284

Quote

IBG Models 1/72 - ref. 72519 - PZL P.11c Polish Fighter- will hit the stores in around 2 weeks! 3 painting schemes will be included in the box.

 

 

 

 

V.P.

[Homebee]

Released - ref. 72519 - PZL P.11c Polish Fighter

https://www.facebook.com/ibgmodels/posts/4179866992134913

 

 

V.P.

[Piotr Mikolajski]

Three new sprues inside - E, I and W1, others you know from previous sets. The text is in Polish, but I think you are more interested in the pictures of the elements than in reading what you see in the pictures.

 

https://nowosci.plastikowe.pl/aktualnosci/r-ibg-models-pzl-p-11c-72519/

[JWM]

6 hours ago, Piotr Mikolajski said:

The text is in Polish,

I do not mind it  

Very nice model indeed... 

J-W

[zigster]

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Edited June 25, 2021 by zigster
wrong link