The Spadgent Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 12 hours ago, TheBaron said: Full of adulation for all the Spadulation that you're putting into that Johnny. Monster work on the Game of Thrones interior seating and detailing of features. What a beast! Hope you had an enjoyable holiday break? Thanks Tony. Yes we had a blast, luckinly we made it back before the snow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Good evening you lot. I was going to save everything for the weekend but we were sent home from work early due to a power cut. That’s was a shame. So into the Grotto I ventured. Even though I have nearly knocked this off a zillion times since this I found to be a good way of sticking in the PE padded Aimers perch. You can see it at the end of the fuselage. Glue one side of the pad to the fuselage then tape the two halves together and let the one side rest on the other till glued. Looks good in there. I the decided to add the windows and start masking. hang on! I have these. So I used em for the inside masking that has to happen, I’ll cut the outside ones myself. Everything then got primed. not being totally happy with the outline left using the clear window parts I decided to use PPP. I applied it with a brush, thinned with water. Seemed to work really well. mai well I decided to have a go at the outer windows too. leave to dry for a minute or so then wipe with a little water and a finger. Eventually finishing off with a cloth to remove any excess. hopefully I’ll get away with no unpleasant sanding. so all the bits got primed ready for paint. I really don’t want to add lots of detail to the bits that can’t or won’t be seen but just in case I decided to do a crafty pre shade to add detail where ther was none. Should be just enough when glancing in. A mixed green using the instructions brew and PING! As a first pass I’m happy with the way this is going. I left the black bits blank for now. The seats and other parts got some hulk juice too. I Then masked the inner fuselage using blu-tac sausages and Tamiya tape. and Blamo!!! nato black! It’s not quit black black but it’ll work well with Flory later on and it seems to match the Eduard parts too so all’s good. Masking off and a few of the larger panels brush painted and we’re ready for adding more of the coloured Photo etch. Super happy with that so I’ll end it there, light the fire and get some wine. more soon, you never know I might get snowed in tomorrow. Take care y’all. Johnny Tundra. 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Lovey work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Seconded! I hope that PPP doesn't shrink too much, it looks really smooth at the moment - fingers crossed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Outstanding job, J! And boy, she's huge! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 That's looking very impressive Jonny, nice work Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 This is shaping up to be your best effort on BM yet What can I say other than Macbeth! Martian 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 wow, And here the spadgent get in high gear !! Lovely work ! look nice, I really enjoy her !! congratulations ! CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta7 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Very nice work, this is slowly moving to the top of my pile, mine will have the bomb bays closed as I think it gives a cleaner line, I did crack and bought the belcher bits engine as even with new parts I recon I would lose a lot of detail when filling and sanding joints. Thanks for sharing your build it makes a great reference for later 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Great stuff Johnny. Only one thing to pick you up on: "hopefully I’ll get away with no unpleasant sanding" C'mon mate, you know somewhere, some place on the build, there'll be a need for that pesky sandpaper. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Hello That looks really superb by now, especially the seat. One question or two. I never really did understand the thing with the side windows. Were all Lancs fitted with these at the factory and they removed them on some? Or were some build with and some without depending on the factory. Or were they deleted on all at a later stage of the war? I wonder why they put them there at all on/for a night bomber. Cheers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossington 2 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Early Lancs and all Manchesters had clear windows. Early to mid production Lancs had the perspex overpainted, either at delivery or soon afterwards. ( This allowed crews to use torches when navigating the fuselage). Mid to late production Lancs had the perspex replaced by metal. Late production Lancs had the windows deleted entirely. (So the fuselage will go from imperfect to smooth but it is oh so difficult to tell from photos). There are several threads on this around. The Holy Grail of Lancaster info is working out which production blocks were affected at what point. I think deleted windows came about around the JBs. If we know when the modification authority date to allow overpainting was announced, it would help a little. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Lovely paint and prime session Johnny. Really like the variations you're getting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 12 hours ago, delta7 said: Very nice work, this is slowly moving to the top of my pile, mine will have the bomb bays closed as I think it gives a cleaner line, I did crack and bought the belcher bits engine as even with new parts I recon I would lose a lot of detail when filling and sanding joints. Thanks for sharing your build it makes a great reference for later Hello delta, Don't you worry; The Belcher engine nacelles are very precise ! When your cut is about right, the nacelle plug in easily. I tried mine and it's right, the only problem came from the lateral air intakes on the inboard nacelles. Depending of the Lanc you choose to depict. sincerely. Corsaircorp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f111guru Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Most excellent work Johnny. I wish that mine would be that great looking when I get my modelling building completed. Still working to finish, finally have electric supplied to it. Ron VanDerwarker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) Johnny I dont think I have ever seen the colour scheme you have employed around the fuselage area ?? Half and half ?? Surely the fuselage was one colour although it was probably different in the nose section and the fuselage section beyond the main spar . . . . I was kinda waiting for an update to see the progress . . . . Ian Edited March 4, 2018 by Mancunian airman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 21 hours ago, Ossington said: Early Lancs and all Manchesters had clear windows. Early to mid production Lancs had the perspex overpainted, either at delivery or soon afterwards. ( This allowed crews to use torches when navigating the fuselage). Mid to late production Lancs had the perspex replaced by metal. Late production Lancs had the windows deleted entirely. (So the fuselage will go from imperfect to smooth but it is oh so difficult to tell from photos). There are several threads on this around. The Holy Grail of Lancaster info is working out which production blocks were affected at what point. I think deleted windows came about around the JBs. If we know when the modification authority date to allow overpainting was announced, it would help a little. I know the 100 squadron crews were painting them in late October of 1943. I am lead to believe the decision to stop windows in production was in November '43 and when JB602/3/4 and 5 arrived on the squadron in January 1944, they didnt have windows Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossington 2 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 You Gem Ian! Is there a list of Lancaster mods somewhere? Or maybe a message from the various group HQ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Mancunian airman said: Johnny I dont think I have ever seen the colour scheme you have employed around the fuselage area ?? Half and half ?? Surely the fuselage was one colour although it was probably different in the nose section and the fuselage section beyond the main spar . . . . I was kinda waiting for an update to see the progress . . . . Ian If you read page six @isaneng explains about the half ‘n’ half with pics too. Hope that clears it up. 18 hours ago, f111guru said: Most excellent work Johnny. I wish that mine would be that great looking when I get my modelling building completed. Still working to finish, finally have electric supplied to it. Ron VanDerwarker Modelling building you say? Wowza! I’m sure your Lanc will be stunning! On 03/03/2018 at 5:39 PM, TheBaron said: Lovely paint and prime session Johnny. Really like the variations you're getting. Thank you El Barony you’re too kind. On 03/03/2018 at 11:49 AM, bbudde said: Hello That looks really superb by now, especially the seat. One question or two. I never really did understand the thing with the side windows. Were all Lancs fitted with these at the factory and they removed them on some? Or were some build with and some without depending on the factory. Or were they deleted on all at a later stage of the war? I wonder why they put them there at all on/for a night bomber. Cheers Thanks. Yes it looks like the windows were mostly painted out then they decided not to cut the holes at all. The one I’m building has two windows on each side. On 03/03/2018 at 11:35 AM, Tomoshenko said: Great stuff Johnny. Only one thing to pick you up on: "hopefully I’ll get away with no unpleasant sanding" C'mon mate, you know somewhere, some place on the build, there'll be a need for that pesky sandpaper. Ohhhh there will be sanding. Just not unpleasant. On 03/03/2018 at 9:40 AM, delta7 said: Very nice work, this is slowly moving to the top of my pile, mine will have the bomb bays closed as I think it gives a cleaner line, I did crack and bought the belcher bits engine as even with new parts I recon I would lose a lot of detail when filling and sanding joints. Thanks for sharing your build it makes a great reference for later Thankyou sir. I’ll tag along for the ride when the time comes. On 02/03/2018 at 11:28 PM, corsaircorp said: wow, And here the spadgent get in high gear !! Lovely work ! look nice, I really enjoy her !! congratulations ! CC Thanks CC. On 02/03/2018 at 1:03 PM, Martian Hale said: This is shaping up to be your best effort on BM yet What can I say other than Macbeth! Martian Aaaaargh “Hot potato, orchestra stalls, puck will make amends”. You swine. oh and thanks. On 02/03/2018 at 9:48 AM, Stew Dapple said: That's looking very impressive Jonny, nice work Cheers, Stew Why tahank you. On 02/03/2018 at 8:26 AM, giemme said: Outstanding job, J! And boy, she's huge! Ciao Thanks. Ain’t she just. On 01/03/2018 at 11:07 PM, CedB said: Seconded! I hope that PPP doesn't shrink too much, it looks really smooth at the moment - fingers crossed Thanks. Shrink? Nobody never said nothing about shrinking. On 01/03/2018 at 10:04 PM, At Sea said: Lovey work! Thanky you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Thankyou for all the lovely comments guys. It warms the soul knowing you are all out there. A little more lancaster based action over the past day or two. I didn’t get snowed out of work Friday, I powered through and made it to the darkest depths of Digbeth. huzzah! Although we only had a skeleton crew as most were snowed in. We were allowed to flee at 1:00. So at least I got some bench time. I began by sticking on the coloured PE parts that I left out before painting. Here’s the radio table. I’ll make a little map and a few bits and bobs for the pockets too. Pre weathering she’s looking ok. the pilot control stuff got some attention. As did the fuselage halves. and the main chair. I also made some little grab poles from plastruct as the PE parts looked a little flat. I gloss coated everything last night ready for some Flory action this morning. on with the black, airbrushed wetter in the areas I wanted darker and propped upright so any pooling or drips looked right. Twenry minutes or so and cotton buds to the ready. ooh I’m liking the look of this. some nice clearing where footfall would have taken place. I’ll add some bumph in the pockets here too. I nearly forgot the window masks. they came off and turned out really nicely. Then remembered I needed to top coat. so searching around the mat I managed to find them intact and stuck em back on again. Every thing got a mate coat ready for some light weather dusting. I also glued on the grab rails. (An extra line of black got added to the front section too as I noticed I had finished a little short.) All the other bits got the same treatment. And front. something seemed to be missing and I couldn’t quite put my finger on it. Then.......... doh! I knew I needed more PE in my life. I’ll add these before I do the light weather wash. Talking of that I added a Tamiya powder highlight pass to the first few bits to see what they bought to the table. Subtle but I’m really happy with this. Same with the radio table. At that point chores called so it was tools down and other tools engaged. I have a bit of free time now but I’ve decided to chill with a beer and a fire and catch up with some BM. Hope you’re all enjoying the build. She’s really taking shape now. Thanks for dropping by and as always Happy Modelling. Tanke care. Johnny stout. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Hi Johnny if it's not too late the 2 windows either side of were the W/op sits need to be moved back towards the wing as on the kit they are too far forward, hope this pic helps. Graham 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Another great Spadgent interior Jont - you really are very good with that wash stuff aren’t you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Have to agree with Ced. You wash up a treat kid. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerJ_757 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Have to agree with Ced. You wash up a treat kid. Would that be Mum licking a hanky and ... oh, the Lanc! Love what you’ve done so far, Johnny! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Great John ! izzat Flory ??? look great !! sincerely CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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