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1/48 - Focke Wulf Triebflügel by Amusing Hobby - released

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13 hours ago, SleeperService said:

Me263 to go with it some day? That's so barking mad I MUST have one :fool:

I love these weird & wacky Luftwaffe '46 types. Wonder how the pilot manages to bail out without being sliced & diced!!

 

Allan

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2 hours ago, Albeback52 said:

I love these weird & wacky Luftwaffe '46 types. Wonder how the pilot manages to bail out without being sliced & diced!!

 

Allan

Bailing out would show a lack of Nationalist Socialist ardor :fool:

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6 hours ago, SleeperService said:

Bailing out would show a lack of Nationalist Socialist ardor :fool:

Or ejector seat;)

 

Oooh, want one!:D

 

Christian, exiled to africa

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9 hours ago, Albeback52 said:

Wonder how the pilot manages to bail out without being sliced & diced!!

I remember reading somewhere it was a combination of ejector seat & the blades were ejected as well. The rear tail/feet were permanent so the pilot couldnt just bail out.  Supposedly the design was the blades were held in with explosive type bolts, and were ejected just before the seat would fire. 

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Oooooohhh nice! Would it be resin or proper, civilised plastic?

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9 minutes ago, Gorby said:

Oooooohhh nice! Would it be resin or proper, civilised plastic?

The 35th armour stuff is styrene so I hope this is too.

 

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On 2/3/2018 at 2:45 AM, Albeback52 said:

I love these weird & wacky Luftwaffe '46 types. Wonder how the pilot manages to bail out without being sliced & diced!!

Probably explosive bolts to detach the spinning blades. The vertical tail and rear prop of the Do 335 could be blown off in similar fashion if the pilot needed to eject.

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12 hours ago, Caerbannog said:

Excellent - I sold on my Abra kit and was not so sure if this was a good idea. It seems it was.

Yes it most certainly was. I know somebody who managed to build it and he's never been quite the same since.

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Fascinating and utterly mad. I'm keen on it!

 

In the Correct Scale as well.

 

 

It seems to represent the 3 times removed, mad-uncle of the V22.

Well done "Amusing Hobby"!

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I've never understood what would prevent the 'main fuselage' rotating too, especially at low speed.

The turboprop tail-sitters tested by the USN in the 50's had contra rotating propellers and control surfaces in their airflow.

I wonder too how the pilot managed to enter the cockpit (no sign of hand holds/foot steps) the armament serviced  etc.  It looks very unstable and easy to tip over …..

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On 18/07/2018 at 10:34, Denford said:

I've never understood what would prevent the 'main fuselage' rotating too, especially at low speed.

The turboprop tail-sitters tested by the USN in the 50's had contra rotating propellers and control surfaces in their airflow.

I wonder too how the pilot managed to enter the cockpit (no sign of hand holds/foot steps) the armament serviced  etc.  It looks very unstable and easy to tip over …..

The main difference between the Triebflügel and the Pogo or Salmon are the location of the "engine" - Pogo and Salmon have it in the fuselage and drive the props from there, so the drive train goes from fuselage to the prop. At the Triebflügel the prop has the engines/"drivetrain" integrated, so there is no torque between fuselage and prop (if you know what I mean). Well that is at least what I considered when I had the same question in mind. Apart from that I doubt that the Triebflügel would have been workable for any pilot. But it looks interesting and a bit crazy which makes it a perfect Luft 46 subject (so SciFi) 🙂

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I wonder why there are 2 sets of transparencies shown, 2 kits in the box ?

 

Robert

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8 hours ago, Caerbannog said:

The main difference between the Triebflügel and the Pogo or Salmon are the location of the "engine" - Pogo and Salmon have it in the fuselage and drive the props from there, so the drive train goes from fuselage to the prop. At the Triebflügel the prop has the engines/"drivetrain" integrated, so there is no torque between fuselage and prop (if you know what I mean). Well that is at least what I considered when I had the same question in mind. Apart from that I doubt that the Triebflügel would have been workable for any pilot. But it looks interesting and a bit crazy which makes it a perfect Luft 46 subject (so SciFi) 🙂

There is indeed no torque between the fuselage and prop, but this wouldn't stop the former from rotating.  I've seen this at first hand.

 

No not a Triebflügel alas, but a small model helicopter kit one could buy in the 50's.  Powered by two solid fuel 'Jetex' rockets on the rotor assembly, it could lift the little craft to around 100 ft after which it would gently auto-rotate to the ground.  With nothing to stop it so doing, the little fuselage spun merrily round the whole flight.

 

Another (so far) unmentioned feature of the Triebflügel would be the large gyroscopic effect of the motors, compounded by the miserable moment arms of the 'control surfaces' if one could even call them that.  Hardly an attribute wanted in a fighter!  Some remedy could be obtained by enlarging them, which at the same time would make the whole crazy concept a little less likely to tip over on the ground.

 

I've overlooked too what might happen if any engine 'faltered' or gave a different thrust (for any reason) from the others.  'Catastrophic' is hardly strong enough to describe the consequences!

 

The whole idea has no more credibility than if it had been thought up by the Luftwaffe's chief pastry cook and sketched out on some grease proof paper.

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Dear Denford,

You seem to miss the point that the weirder the idea of a "Luft 1946" project is the more interesting a model of it gets? ;)

I want one Triebflügel kit and I want it now!

BR,

Rui

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16 hours ago, Denford said:

There is indeed no torque between the fuselage and prop, but this wouldn't stop the former from rotating.  I've seen this at first hand.

 

No not a Triebflügel alas, but a small model helicopter kit one could buy in the 50's.  Powered by two solid fuel 'Jetex' rockets on the rotor assembly, it could lift the little craft to around 100 ft after which it would gently auto-rotate to the ground.  With nothing to stop it so doing, the little fuselage spun merrily round the whole flight.

 

Another (so far) unmentioned feature of the Triebflügel would be the large gyroscopic effect of the motors, compounded by the miserable moment arms of the 'control surfaces' if one could even call them that.  Hardly an attribute wanted in a fighter!  Some remedy could be obtained by enlarging them, which at the same time would make the whole crazy concept a little less likely to tip over on the ground.

 

I've overlooked too what might happen if any engine 'faltered' or gave a different thrust (for any reason) from the others.  'Catastrophic' is hardly strong enough to describe the consequences!

 

The whole idea has no more credibility than if it had been thought up by the Luftwaffe's chief pastry cook and sketched out on some grease proof paper.

😁😁Details!Mere details! You're probably correct but, so what? It looks great and certainly no more implausible than a 1000 ton tank or indeed,many Sci Fi subjects! Personally, I love the weird and wacky! I would buy this before yet another Spitfire!😂

 

Allan

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11 hours ago, Albeback52 said:

😁😁Details!Mere details! You're probably correct but, so what? It looks great and certainly no more implausible than a 1000 ton tank or indeed,many Sci Fi subjects! Personally, I love the weird and wacky! I would buy this before yet another Spitfire!😂

 

Allan

Go ahead, buy it and enjoy.  But be sure to finish it in the Luftwaffe '46 colours of RLM 91 & 92...

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