Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Heard back from my Mentor. This is his answer regarding Gunze. “I usually start with a 50/50 mix or 60/40 thinner/paint. And with a lower air pressure like 15 psi . The paint will need to be built up with a few layers. If you mix up the paint thoroughly it basically works just like tamiya” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Can confirm, I use the same ratios mostly. Aqueous also works with X-20A as thinner. A thin misting coat first helps the next pass 'grip' better as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Good to see you getting ready for Paint Chris, I am unable to provide any advice as I paint with a hairy stick. But be good to get your airbrush fired up and practice on the mule. All the best Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 Thanks, Dennis. It's just that when I did get paint through it, it was just very thin lines with barely any colour. I thought I had it mixed enough. I'm going to switch needles today and see if that helps. I did notice that the pressure was quickly dropping to between 10 and 12 PSI when I started brushing. Maybe I need to check out hose connections. I don't have an air tank so maybe that part of the issue. The last time I used it was back in the late80's/early 90's, doing a white fuselage band on an Italian bomber. It covered real nice, so I'm not sure. I do have a water trap/pressure gauge unit just off the compressor. I'll check that, too. Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 Crap on a cracker! Well, no airbrushing this afternoon. Just moments before I was going downstairs, there was a power outage. It lasted almost 2 hours. I'm glad I upgraded the house's insulation back in '97. It's 31C outside right now but it only crept up to 23C inside before to power came back on and the A/C kicked in. Maybe I'll get some time in later. Chris 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 Well, fellow members, I am quite chuffed. After removing a non-standard valve from my compressor output line, I tried some painting again. I tried to be somewhat accurate with the paint/thinner ratio ( about 40/60 ) and switching needles, I managed to paint the starboard wing of my paint mule. I'm calling this, if not a complete success, it's at least a B+ and way better than my last try. I got solid ( somewhat ) colour density. I just need to set the airbrush up a little better next time. Chris 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, dogsbody said: I managed to paint the starboard wing of my paint mule. I'm calling this, if not a complete success, it's at least a B+ and way better than my last try. I got solid ( somewhat ) colour density. I just need to set the airbrush up a little better next time. That looks real good Chris, happy to see you figured out the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 01/08/2020 at 15:51, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: That looks real good Chris, happy to see you figured out the issue. Thanks, Dennis. I did get one blotch near the wingtip that's a bit thick. Lesson learned: start spraying off the model! Also, the equipment cleanup after usage is a bit of a rectal cramp. Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 31/07/2020 at 23:48, dogsbody said: Well, no airbrushing this afternoon. Just moments before I was going downstairs, there was a power outage. 1 hour ago, dogsbody said: Also, the equipment cleanup after usage is a bit of a rectal cramp. I did suggest a paint brush..... On a less sarcy note, I, like you, have been meaning to airbrush masterpieces, and have got various bits of kit.... But, have managed to finish models with a paint brush, and, yes, you'd see the difference in finish in macro, or if you get within six inches with glasses on... Otherwise? no. And, I do have to use some specialist brush soap when the brush gets stiff... Anyway, one you have it painted in some fashion you still have the decals to do Chris, I know you have put a lot of effort into this, maybe just take a simple well tooled kit, and just aim to get it complete, it's quite cathartic to finish, and you can then show that you do occasionally build them as opposed to have 379 stashed neatly on shelves in your den (I've seen the pics...) And, yes, I also have a terrible stash to completion ratio.... so I know the feeling. Takes one to know one... I'm bogged down replicating Hurricane cowl fasteners, and trying to develop enthusiasm to paint that flippin' Italeri Corsair, oh, and tidy up the bench and sprawl of kits, material paint and references that have spread into disorganised shanty town of tat meaning I usually takes me 10 minutes to find anything... cheers T 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 I couldn't wait! I finished my afternoon coffee & cookies and went back to try some more airbrushing. Again I'm quite happy with how it turned out. Nothing great, like the experten on this forum can do, but considering it's been over 25 years since I last attempted to use it, I'm happy. This time I sprayed a little Extra Dark Sea Grey ( post-war colour ) I need to move up from the small cup to the jar for the next practice. That cup doesn't hold much paint. That little fan I put in the window works great. The missus, who can smell squirrel flatulence from across the street, hasn't noticed a thing. This could become a new addiction for me. @Troy Smith, thank you for your kind words. I have been thinking of doing something a bit more basic, detail-wise. I just haven't made up my mind which one yet. Oh! The photo: Chris 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, dogsbody said: That little fan I put in the window works great. The missus, who can smell squirrel flatulence from across the street, hasn't noticed a thing. 🤣 Love that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Caught up now Chris - nice work and pleased to see you're mastering the airbrush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Great to see you busy with your airbrush! You are doing very well and as you practice more you will find it easier and easier. The cleaning doesn't have to be a total chore. I tend to follow the method of the guy in this video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmekanik Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 7:48 PM, dogsbody said: Don't know. It came with 2 but they both look to be the same size and there nothing marked on them. This is it. <snip> Chris Lookin good Chris, nice to see you picking this up. Badger lists their tips as Fine, Medium and Large, when you are changing needles around be sure you also change the tips to match otherwise the performance of the airbrush may suffer and this may very well be why the first attempt didn't go very well. I never thought about that until you mentioned that you didn't know what size the needles were. If you look at the butt end of the needles you'll see groves cut into them, 1 groove is Fine, 2 is medium, and 3 Large. The spray regulator, at the end of the head assembly, should have an F,M,or L stamped on it to identify the tip size. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Mike Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 16 hours ago, dogsbody said: Well, fellow members, I am quite chuffed. After removing a non-standard valve from my compressor output line, I tried some painting again. I tried to be somewhat accurate with the paint/thinner ratio ( about 40/60 ) and switching needles, I managed to paint the starboard wing of my paint mule. I'm calling this, if not a complete success, it's at least a B+ and way better than my last try. I got solid ( somewhat ) colour density. I just need to set the airbrush up a little better next time. Chris Well done Chris! I am also on a steep learning curve with an old Aerograph Super 63 I bought as an art student in the mid 90's. I've blown 25 years of dust out of it and now trying to master the black art of airbrushing for modelling. (Totally different from the watercolour work we did as art students) It's taken me a long while, and several kits, to feel like I'm actually making any progress with it! Finally, with the latest WIP, I'm getting somewhere, and really enjoying the process. I'm a convert now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 Thanks, @Jur. I seem to have done a pretty good job of cleaning my Badger. I've been doing about the same things as in the video. Lucky me! @nsmekanik, I have 2 medium needles, then, as both have 2 engraved rings on the end. Just as well, as I don't know how you would ever get the tip out of that fitting. The only part that has anything stamped into it is this, with IL on it. This is the whole airbrush. Bought in the very late 80's and used very little at that time I did some practicing and the used it a bit on one kit. At the end of 2013, I lent it to my youngest daughter, so she could use it for her makeup course in Edmonton. She said they had an instructor who knew airbrushes and showed the students hoe to clean them. It hasn't been used since, until this week when I started. Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmekanik Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Certainly looks like an earlier version then mine of the 150 to me, I picked mine up in the late 90's. and came in a wooden case with three needle/tip combinations, 2 different paint pots and the cup. Whats interesting is how the needle lock nut is designed differently from the later models. If I were to hazard a guess I'd say that the "L" on the regulator was for Large, if your airbrush came with only 2 medium needles, one being the spare, I doubt that would be correct. This is a 100 but the internals are the same as the 150. A couple of things to watch for, Badger would have you change the seal between the head and body every time you remove the head, I don't. I just use bee's wax to help keep things sealed up, it looks though that Badger has replaced type of seal with a rubber Oring. The next thing is the needle bearing, those 2 white tubes below the body, when this wears out your airbrush will tend to spit paint, Badger would have you send them your airbrush for a tune up which is a bit pricey, but there is hope. First it's a good idea to keep the needle lubricated, I use The Regdab needle juice, this will help extend the lifespan of the needle bearing and help keep things sealed up. Once the thing needs replacing you have a couple of options, you can send it in, you can buy the tool and do it your self, you can send it to me cuase I bought the tool, or you can save a few bucks and do this (which did ok but using the tool worked better) Simply push the old one from the back of the body out the front, then push the new one in the front until it seats, and then push the needle in and wiggle it around until it moves freely......there are youtube videos if you do a search. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Thanks for that info. As of yet, I haven't field-striped mine down that far. I'm not even sure how I'd do that. I think I've found where the IL comes from: Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 If I use an alcohol wipe ( moist towelette ) to wipe down the Hurricane before painting, to remove skin oils and fingerprints, will it disturb the Mr. Surfacer that I used to fill seams? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, dogsbody said: If I use an alcohol wipe ( moist towelette ) to wipe down the Hurricane before painting, to remove skin oils and fingerprints, will it disturb the Mr. Surfacer that I used to fill seams? Chris Nope do it all the time Chris, unless youre soaking the surfacer it wont be affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 10/08/2020 at 12:32, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Nope do it all the time Chris, unless youre soaking the surfacer it wont be affected. Thanks, Dennis! No, it'll just be a quick wipe with one of those packaged serviette type things. I recently found a few in an old box of crap, just before throwing the box in the trash. I also have some 30+ year old cleaners for our safety glasses at work. The last one of those I opened was still wet. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, dogsbody said: Thanks, Dennis! o, it'll just be a quick wipe with one of those packaged serviette type things. I recently found a few in an old box of crap, just before throwing the box in the trash. I also have some 30+ year old cleaners for our safety glasses at work. The last one of those I opened was still wet. Chris Being Diabetic I have a boatload of them, I also live with 3 women and benefit by getting all there makeup and beauty cast-offs. I use make up removing pads and soak them in the sane 70% Iso alcohol sometimes. They're about four times the size of the standard wipes. I also get nail files and buffing sticks from them. SWMBO was a former hair stylist and knows all the good quality stuff on sight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Being Diabetic I have a boatload of them, I also live with 3 women and benefit by getting all there makeup and beauty cast-offs. I use make up removing pads and soak them in the sane 70% Iso alcohol sometimes. They're about four times the size of the standard wipes. I also get nail files and buffing sticks from them. SWMBO was a former hair stylist and knows all the good quality stuff on sight. I have three daughters, the youngest of them is a beautician and makeup specialist at a local boutique in a national chain drugstore. I have gotten and can get anything like that I want and get her employee discount. I've got a bottle of acetone-based nail polish remover that I'll never get through. Works great on unsticking superglued fingers. Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 Ok! The missus got the results back from her test and she is negative. No Covid. Just a wee cough and still some sinus issues. Today I got the lawn mowed and trimmed and some other outdoor stuff done. Maybe tomorrow, I can get back downstairs and get some more airbrush practice in and maybe start some masking on the Hurc. Here's hoping! Chris 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 hours ago, dogsbody said: The missus got the results back from her test and she is negative. Great to hear Chris. Stay safe Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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