exdraken Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) HI everybody, First of all, 10 years BM! That is to be celebrated! Thanks everybody for participating that intensly in the arguably best scale modelling forum! Therefor an appropriate kit, wants to get build as already announced in the discussion section, I am going to try my luck on a Kfir C10 conversion! the brand new AMK upgraded Kfir (one week delivery from Hobbyeasy!! ) kit forms the basis, Wingman Models conversion kit the necessary ingredient, and HPM produced Derby missile and Skunkworks (Kinetic ) PhytonV and Spice bomb so this is what I have for now: that is what I want to build: https://interesestrategicoarg.com/2017/10/17/los-iai-kfir-de-colombia-reciben-radar-aesa-y-misiles-i-derby-er/ more here: https://www.militar.org.ua/foro/fuerza-aerea-colombiana-t36118-6960.html Edited May 4, 2018 by exdraken 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Great choice exdraken, this should be good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thud4444 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Nice. Interesting read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Nice choice Werner, very nice indeed. I will be along for the ride if you don't mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davmarx Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Very interesting work in progress, expecially about how the Wingman resins fit the nice Amk kit. Ciao. Davide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 thanks guys! not much of an in progress yet, but, unconventionally I started yesterday to assembyl the Skunkworks (kinetic) weapons fom the Israeli weaponsset. Python 5 on top and Spice guided bomb below Spice bombs, strange design with lots of control and stab surfaces...... Python 5 ....one could actually say the same! strange design with lots of control and stab surfaces......2 small controll fins are actually even missing (could done in PE though) I will cross check the missile dimesnsions and geometry, the 8 front fins look quite large...... but they are supposed to be large anyways... more recent Academy F-15s should have some, no? will check the stash! thats it for now, Werner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 As others have already said, a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 cut some kit plastic and also found a PE set in the stash this is actually my 2nd AMK Kfir..... but now in upgraded form the new radar nose section does not look like a major fit problem : maybe I will replace the strakes... with some PE leftovers! I slightly modified the cockpit section in order to fit the Wingman models resin sample for the C10 looks like straight forward for now! cheers, Werner 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Edurd PE does a lot for inner nozzle area: painted , and PE flameholder 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) interesting detail of the Python 5... Adademy missile top an right, Skunk Works Python low and left respectively differences in the front fin size, estetically I prefer the Academy ones (this one coming from the recentyl completed F-111C upgrade kit, need to find a second one!) Academy is also slightly (1-2 mm) longer Edited February 6, 2018 by exdraken 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 started to paint the cockpit and closed the fuselage in order to be able to proceed Wingman IP: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 It's nice to see a 'small air force' represented Cliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 On 15.2.2018 at 10:39 AM, CliffB said: It's nice to see a 'small air force' represented Cliff thanks Cliff! but the aim was not to have a smaller airforce represented, but provide an interesting and worthy subject Actually I plnned to do Kfir CE form Ecuador with this conversion, but as there is no 10 in it.... anyways, some update the nose fits very well, hardly any diameter dificulties! ony challenge is to find the (a) correct looking angle.... that would be the same though with the Kinetic base kit! (I checked ) what do you think? does this look like a KFIR CE/ C10 shape? I'd happily correct at this stage cheers, Werner 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Just out of Curiousity ? But whats the opening forward of the nose gear bay ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Just out of Curiousity ? But whats the opening forward of the nose gear bay ? It is for the panel which carries the Pave Penny? Laser spot tracker on the C7 I guess. See this excellent photo http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/197818-kfir-c7/&do=findComment&comment=1858694 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) some work done on the landing gear bays, the PE adds in my opinion! air intakes pre-painted, and time to think about the front canopy... the most critical part as the design in notably different between Kinetic and AMK! Edited February 18, 2018 by exdraken 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 A bit of a struggle, but coming along very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingdutchman Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Looking very nice. Looks like the intakes have a good fit. You have build Kinetic’ Mirage kit, is the AMK (much?) better? Evert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Jabba said: A bit of a struggle, but coming along very well. would not call it a struggle! it is a conversion after all, and even for another kit! quite straight forward actually! 3 hours ago, Flyingdutchman said: Looking very nice. Looks like the intakes have a good fit. You have build Kinetic’ Mirage kit, is the AMK (much?) better? Evert no, I have the kits, but did not build any of the Kinetic Mirages yet (III and 2000) so I cannot comment here. I can say though that this is my second AMK Kfir see here: and it does go together very very well. Hard to top. Last time I did care more about this and had not troubles whatsoever, this time I could have focused a bit more on the wing-fuselage joint, but as I did not look up into the instructions and did what I fancied....... but it turned out ok as well. had a go on the canopy, as mentioned above, the wind-screen design notably different on the Kinetic and AMK kits. The former moulds part of the fuselage as well, AMK only as the framed parts in transparent ... no idea what is better actually! but for my case it means I have to remove some plastic and or vacform (you could not fit the AMK cwind screen to the Kinetic kit for the lack of material...) top: Kinetic, middle Wingman vacform frameless C10 part, and bottom the AMK one... spot the differences! sorry for the picture, but with flash form the mobile it turned out like that.....! some dry fitting (no glue yet) some sanding of the sills, and it looks fine! dipped it it future, so it dries now 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingdutchman Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Ow I thought you had build a Mirage III. Nevertheless very complete answer to my question. The fitt of the canopy seems to be good as you mentioned. And the last pictures shows it very well. Can't wait to visit my LHS within a few weeks and buy all the goodies to build a C10! Cheers, Evert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 work on the underside (pylons, muzzle deflectors) canopy glued, refueling probe, and canards mounted looking like a Kfir, no? l 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingdutchman Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Well the distinctive refueling probe is there so that makes it a KFIR!. I see you use the Tamiya curve tape, great stuff isn't it? Evert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Flyingdutchman said: Well the distinctive refueling probe is there so that makes it a KFIR!. I see you use the Tamiya curve tape, great stuff isn't it? Evert yeah, and the large canards, the large square intake in font of the fin, the short rear end, pylons.... that is what distinguies Kfirs from Mirage III variants. the refueling probe is actually not a must, but very caracteristic! as is the single frame front canopy only to be found in Cheetac C some D, Kfir C10, CE and C12 /TC12... and of course the long radar nose only on CE, C10 and a bit different on the Cheetah C great base aeroplane in any case! (Mirage III - first flight in 1956 or IIIA in 58!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Just catching up with your build Werner, excellent work so far (as usual). Nice job on the canopy and nose extension, you have made them fit very well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 some quite crude pre-shading, and bay painting not sure about the mid wing pylons yet, those are rarely seen bomb or external load pylons, also not entirely correct for my planned 4 missile load out..... also note the short pitot, unique to CE and C10 versions (by Master already included in the Wingman conversion set ) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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