Oriskany Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Hi guys I'm in this great STGB with a beautiful Tamiya East Eight dedicated to the European theater. I'm going to use some AM, like Eduard's PE and Friulmodel T66 tracks. In the next days i'll think about final markings, now i'm building it like generic Easy 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Welcome Oriskany, there are a few of these being built so if you need any tips there are plenty about. I'd be interested to see those tracks come together as I've just brought a set, as I've never used metal tracks before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriskany Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 Thanks Ozzy! I have used metal tracks many times, they are very realistic and quite easy to assembly. They are a little bit difficult to paint than plastic tracks, but you can use a good burnisher, oils and pigments to have a good effect. Unfortunately, the main problem is their cost... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 That's reassuring, I got mine from a chap in Poland for a very reasonable amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Great subject.....Welcome aboard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadbear Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just remember when using Fruilmodel tracks on a Sherman that they did say like a Panther or KV/JS. The Sherman series had live tracks so they kept under tension using the adjustable idler mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, Threadbear said: Just remember when using Fruilmodel tracks on a Sherman that they did say like a Panther or KV/JS. The Sherman series had live tracks so they kept under tension using the adjustable idler mount. Thats not totally correct , all tanks have an adjustable idler other wise you would not be able to change tracks or maintain them very easily, the live and dead track link is in relation to the make up of the hinge and pin of the track. Tracks may be broadly categorized as "live" or "dead" track. "Dead" track is a simple design in which each track plate is connected to the rest with hinge-type pins. These dead tracks will lie flat if placed on the ground; the drive sprocket pulls the track around the wheels with no assistance from the track itself. "Live" track is slightly more complex, with each link connected to the next by a bushing which causes the track to bend slightly inward. A length of live track left on the ground will curl upward slightly at each end. Although the drive sprocket must still pull the track around the wheels, the track itself tends to bend inward, slightly assisting the sprocket and somewhat conforming to the wheels. Most WW2 German tank track design was of the dead kind , most but not all allied track was a live track design. A good clue is return rollers, if fitted its probably a live track. Almost all modern NATO tanks rely on live track, it saves wear , it’s quieter and requires less maintenance than dead track. Cheers Dan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Spot on, that's as good an explanation as I've read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadbear Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 17 hours ago, Dads203 said: Thats not totally correct , all tanks have an adjustable idler other wise you would not be able to change tracks or maintain them very easily, the live and dead track link is in relation to the make up of the hinge and pin of the track. Tracks may be broadly categorized as "live" or "dead" track. "Dead" track is a simple design in which each track plate is connected to the rest with hinge-type pins. These dead tracks will lie flat if placed on the ground; the drive sprocket pulls the track around the wheels with no assistance from the track itself. "Live" track is slightly more complex, with each link connected to the next by a bushing which causes the track to bend slightly inward. A length of live track left on the ground will curl upward slightly at each end. Although the drive sprocket must still pull the track around the wheels, the track itself tends to bend inward, slightly assisting the sprocket and somewhat conforming to the wheels. Most WW2 German tank track design was of the dead kind , most but not all allied track was a live track design. A good clue is return rollers, if fitted its probably a live track. Almost all modern NATO tanks rely on live track, it saves wear , it’s quieter and requires less maintenance than dead track. Cheers Dan Thanks the clarification on the issue of "live" and "dead" tracks. I know of the principle of what you are saying. There are photos of Sherman tracks kind of in a roll laying on their sides. The fact that Allied armour whilst with less effective armour and guns, automotively they were superior and the tracks were one of the contributions towards the move across Europe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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