giemme Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, Martian Hale said: If you colonials would see sense and start driving on the correct side of the road it wouldn't be a problem. How about non-colonial rest-of-the-world people on Planet Earth? Ciao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Martian Hale said: If you colonials would see sense and start driving on the correct side of the road it wouldn't be a problem. Here in Texas we eliminated those "roundabouts" (we call 'em "traffic circles") as hazards on state highways years ago. I was personally responsible for helping convert one to a sensible 4-way intersection during a summer job with the Texas Highway Department while in high school over 50 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Space Ranger said: Here in Texas we eliminated those "roundabouts" (we call 'em "traffic circles") as hazards on state highways years ago. I was personally responsible for helping convert one to a sensible 4-way intersection during a summer job with the Texas Highway Department while in high school over 50 years ago. Trevor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I told you roundabouts are hazards! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 6 hours ago, giemme said: How about non-colonial rest-of-the-world people on Planet Earth? Ciao Sensible policies for a better planet! 32 minutes ago, Space Ranger said: Here in Texas we eliminated those "roundabouts" (we call 'em "traffic circles") as hazards on state highways years ago. I was personally responsible for helping convert one to a sensible 4-way intersection during a summer job with the Texas Highway Department while in high school over 50 years ago. Probably not enough space for that on our crowded island. 29 minutes ago, Max Headroom said: Trevor And so perish all Her Majesty's enemies! Martian 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Hi mates, How about a quick update? As I mentioned, the gear doors are on, the horizontal tailplanes/elevators are on, and the wing flaps as well. Some additional detail painting has been done to the avionics bay and those fiddly intake doors are in place. Another view of the intake doors - I have to admit that the CMK pieces are nicely done. For some of the test flights of XR219, these intake doors were locked open, which I presume was done with the two small "arms" on each door. However, XR220 never flew, and the photos I have of her with these doors open, there are no arms. So I think I'll just leave it like this. You might be able to see the extra link that goes from the lower airbrake door actuator to the central drive system. Airfix left out this detail, but CMK provided the parts. I'm not sure what to do with the bomb bay. I could leave it alone, or add either of the two options from CMK. One is the orange thermal blanket as seen on XR220 today, but it is kind of boring. The other pallet is more interesting, but I'm not sure what it is. The nice detail in the nose gear well will disappear once the remaining nose gear doors go on. These were normally closed when on the ground, but I suppose I could pose them open. We're getting there, slow but sure. As for the great roundabout/four-way stop debate, there are pros and cons for each. Roundabouts move more cars through (Mythbusters showed about 20% more) and have fewer accidents, but pedestrian access and safety is better with four-way stops, assuming the people are actually crossing the road and not using a bridge or tunnel. So I think it all depends on the circumstance which one should be used. In my town, they've changed quite a few four-ways into roundabouts, and I like them. Cheers, Bill PS. @CedB - it will be Thursday. I'll send you a PM. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 It's all coming together very nicely, Bill Full of lovely details, and the paint job is outstanding Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 She looks lovely Bill, she looks as if she could have been seen out in public in just this condition and looks really realistic Real you might say 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Superb Bill, as usual. Marvellous stuff. Thursday 24th May in the diary! I'll watch out for the PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 That is looking rather special. Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Hi Bill, Just picking up on this amazing thread. This is some of the very best 1/72 modelling I have seen. I love the way this is progressing. I have also been thoroughly distracted by the thread on your 1/72 Buccaneer S1. Quite simply excellent modelling! I'm staying tuned in here ...... Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Roundabouts, you want roundabouts? Try this one in Swindon: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe/england/3766-swindon-s-magic-roundabout.html (Nice work on the TSR2. I've just spent an enjoyable afternoon reading the thread.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmas Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Beard said: Roundabouts, you want roundabouts? Try this one in Swindon: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe/england/3766-swindon-s-magic-roundabout.html (Nice work on the TSR2. I've just spent an enjoyable afternoon reading the thread.) Ah yes, Swindon's famous Magic Roundabout. I remember when I encountered that for the first time. It was snowing and dark (like it is here, now). It was memorable to say the least! Edited March 1, 2018 by Timmas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Bill that's glorious. Very crisp and neat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Stevens Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) I think I've seen this plane at RAF Cosford Aircraft Museum. It looks really good. An edit: I just gave my mate Miggers a phone call and he tells me I'm correct,we saw it last year at the Cosford air display and that there is a great documentory about it out on the 'net somewhere(I need to go look for that). Thinking about it,I remember seeing the plane,pretty big and white and front head on it looked like some sort of alien ufo. I said to him that a guy called Bill was building one and he said Hi Bill. Edited March 1, 2018 by Kenny Stevens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 44 minutes ago, Beard said: Roundabouts, you want roundabouts? Try this one in Swindon: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe/england/3766-swindon-s-magic-roundabout.html Oh! The horror! The horror! Make it stop! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Navy Bird said: The nice detail in the nose gear well will disappear once the remaining nose gear doors go on. These were normally closed when on the ground, but I suppose I could pose them open. You can leave the doors open: the main pressure refuelling/defuelling connection is at the rear end of the well so needs to be accessible during turn-rounds and fuel system testing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor44 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Navy Bird said: The nice detail in the nose gear well will disappear once the remaining nose gear doors go on. These were normally closed when on the ground, but I suppose I could pose them open. Saying that, the large main undercarriage doors would normaly be closed as well. Gondor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Really a splendid build and a joy to watch Bill. I think over-painting the panel lines with a light coat of white was just the ticket. Personally, i feel the orange insulating blanket will add a nice touch of colour to an otherwise sort-of-bland-looking off white weapons bay....But we don't know what colour the "Mystery Pallet" is painted in yet, do we? I'm still wondering why they put elevators on the elevators though... -d- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Here's another, in High Wycombe. They're fantastic when used properly, far better than a four way stop. Problem here in the US is people don't know how do drive them! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor44 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, David H said: I'm still wondering why they put elevators on the elevators though... -d- I think you will find that those are "Trim Tabs" which allow you to make offsets to the normal amount of deflection required. Gondor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At Sea Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I would love to build one of these one day... Have book marked this for reference. Beautiful work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 4 hours ago, stever219 said: You can leave the doors open: the main pressure refuelling/defuelling connection is at the rear end of the well so needs to be accessible during turn-rounds and fuel system testing. Thanks - right after I wrote that post I found photos of XR219 with those doors open while on the ground (and, now that you mention it, a hose of some kind leading into the bay). I probably don't have to worry about absolute accuracy here, as I have the large main gear doors and the airbrakes open as well. I've already broken the rules - belly up to the bar! 4 hours ago, Gondor44 said: Saying that, the large main undercarriage doors would normaly be closed as well. True fact, but both the kit and CMK parts are horrible fitting (the CMK parts are actually underscale) and I wanted to show off the detail in the main gear bays. That resin is just so crisp and beautiful - I guess that's a good enough reason to keep all the nose gear doors open too. 3 hours ago, David H said: Really a splendid build and a joy to watch Bill. I think over-painting the panel lines with a light coat of white was just the ticket. Personally, i feel the orange insulating blanket will add a nice touch of colour to an otherwise sort-of-bland-looking off white weapons bay....But we don't know what colour the "Mystery Pallet" is painted in yet, do we? I'm still wondering why they put elevators on the elevators though... The trailing edge flaps on the tailplanes were for additional pitch authority at low speed. They could only be operated when the wing flaps were down. When the wing flaps were retracted, the tailplane flaps were locked in neutral position. The second pallet, as far as I can tell, is the same flight test instrumentation but without the thermal blanket. It's basically white and silver, with some orange conduits running along the edge. To be honest, I think I like the detail of the structural pieces in the bare bomb bay better (pardon my alliteration). The second pallet kind of looks like a conveyor belt. But we'll see. I've added some off-white to the top of the vertical fin, and I need to put some flat black inside the fin's leading edge intake. Thanks again to the generous Britmodeller who donated this part to my build. I was having a bit of trouble procuring this part, even sending emails to the manufacturer/distributor. I won't name any names, but they did not even respond to me. I was just reading in Burke's book the other night about this intake - it provided cooling air to the brake parachute container. I wonder if there was some concern about the chute getting too hot, seeing as it was in-between the exhausts? Almost there... Cheers, Bill 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme H Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 It is really taking shape now, very impressive build, I like the look of the CMK stuff, but am put off by your tribulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) Great work! I have only one remark - the flaps of TSR.2 are consist of two sections. Without the longitudinal plate joining them. Plate is a museum revision! so it was on my model Edited March 2, 2018 by Seversky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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