bigbadbadge Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Good luck with the modifications to the windscreen, it certainly will be worth the effort, I am sure. All the best Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 On Saturday it didn’t rain and we had the heating on for a while ( boiler in my man cave ) so the humidity reduced enough for me to spray the yellow stripes. Yesterday I removed the masking, safe in the knowledge that I had applied a coat of Kleer to protect the roundels I ripped off the tape, and with it a portion of the starboard roundel ahead of the wing walk line ! I will not post any more photos until I have replaced the damaged roundel, replaced the undercarriage leg and attached the cannon barrel fairings. On the positive side, I have found a nicely ‘ blown ‘ sliding canopy to replace the kit item. John 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Bad luck John I will await your calm return... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 07:09, CedB said: Bad luck John I will await your calm return... Me too. Seconded on the bad luck... Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 If anyone is still watching ( don't blame you if you've given up ) I will hopefully be putting these two in RFI in the not too distant future, sorry for the delay. John. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Looking forward to those, John Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Me too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 And me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 Thanks for staying with me. MH434 is just about complete but I need to do some weathering on the Aussie MkVIII John 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Looking forward to seeing these Stay safe Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 I bought some Flory washes last year and this is my first attempt at using them. The Australian Mk VIIIs operated in harsh environments and so I assume would have been pretty heavily weathered. I decided to practise on something first and found a Tamiya Buffalo in my ‘ nearly complete ‘ box and decided to use that. I used a mixture of Grime and Mud which was liberally brushed on and left for a couple of hours.I found that the wash had “ beaded “ in places so the result after rubbing down is a little patchy and streaky. I have watched Phil Flory’s video again so I think I now know where I went wrong. I will probably wipe everything off and start again before I proceed to the Mk VIII but would also be happy to hear any advice from anyone who has used these washes. Fortunately MH434 will require only minimal weathering as it was kept in ‘ display ‘ condition. That’s it for now, stay safe everyone. John. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 John, I've never used Flory washes, but if they work anything like other washes, aren't they supposed to be applied on top of a gloss coat? In my experience, even tempera washes (which are basically dirt water), tend to pool and bead in places and there's no way to completely remove them, if applied on a flat paint coat... Ciao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 42 minutes ago, giemme said: John, I've never used Flory washes, but if they work anything like other washes, aren't they supposed to be applied on top of a gloss coat? It depends on the effect you're after. Sometimes a satin finish gives more grip (Flory washes are clay based), so more 'sticks' to the paint/varnish. Good part is that you can take it off with a damp/wet paper towel or cotton bud. Judging from the pictures, this is a nearly flat finish (?). If you want to clean it up, a bit more moisture will probably do the trick. My first try looked similar, turned out I was too gentle/careful cleaning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Can't help with the washes John, as I used them once, didn't like them so put them away in a box somewhere. But I have to say it seems a shame that that nice looking Buffalo has been relegated to being a test mule....!! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 Thanks guys. It was applied on a gloss finish, probably Tamiya X22 but it does seem to have toned it down quite a lot, especially the ‘ night ‘ side. More practise I think. Don’t worry Keith, the Buffalo will eventually find it’s way to RFI. John 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I've used the Flory washes on a few of my models having seen the great effect that @The Spadgent gets with them. Like the video I splash it on all over, let it dry and then use dampened kitchen towel to wipe it off - most of it actually. I don't think it matters what finish they go onto but obviously this will effect the amount that 'sticks'. It'll wipe off, whatever. As alt said above they're clay based so need a good shake beforehand, and during long sessions. HTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Thanks Ced. I’ve been thinking about this and as far as I remember the model was brush painted with xtracolour and given a coat of Kleer which was also brush painted. The patchy finish might be the result of it not being as smooth as if airbrushed, but I’m going to try ‘ reactivating ‘ the clay and spreading it more evenly, then on to the Mk VIII which was also brush painted! John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 It should be fine John - I think the wash will, er, wash off even after a long drying session. I use small bits of folded kitchen towel and, like Phil Flory, lick the paper - just make sure you keep turning it over as licking dirty paper is not recommended! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, CedB said: just make sure you keep turning it over as licking dirty paper is not recommended! You might end up with a nicely weathered tongue though....!! 😛 K 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, keefr22 said: You might end up with a nicely weathered tongue though....!! 😛 K if you end up with weathered teeth you'll frighten the children 😁 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Only if you smile. I’ve done some redistributing on the Buffalo underside and it looks better to me, so I have sloshed a load of Dark Dirt on the MkVIII and will give it some time to dry. it’s still ‘ beaded ‘ a little despite adding a drop of washing up liquid ( perhaps not enough or the wrong brand ) so we’ll see what happens later. john 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Weird. Just wondering, might those spots be where you held the model? Could be skin oils... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 I usually wear cotton gloves for handling the model once painted, but sometimes forget so It’s definitely a possibility. John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Nice to hear these are getting to the finish line! Exciting stuff, it will be good to see how the wash turns out. Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 So this is what I’ve managed to achieve so far with the Mk VIII. Underside and nose covered in the wash Port wing after rubbing with spit moistened kitchen roll and cotton bud. I think the secret of this game is to know just how much wash to remove, which will hopefully come with practice, and also to ensure that you have some panel lines left for it to fill! As this is the Arii/Otaki kit it did not have the characteristic ‘ gull wing ‘ so I used a resin Aeroclub insert, but in getting everything smooth I have obliterated most of the panel lines in that area and not re-instated them, so there is nowhere for the wash to stay. Stupid boy. That’s it for now. Stay safe everyone. John. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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