AMS Resin Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 4:34 PM, jpk said: Beautiful job Harold on a not so accurate kit. I'm sure you are looking forward to the Kitty Hawk Fury. If you recall, we once had some communications going on surrounding the Collect Aire FJ-3 many years ago. You were considering an attempt to create a Fury kit yourself. I had sent you my beat up CA kit for you to examine. Yep, I remember well. It was just a bit beyond my abilities at the time, still is...LOL Got fingers and toes crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpk Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 1:56 AM, Sabrejet said: This isn't the full story: the first two aircraft were based on the F-86F and the potential modeller should note the basic airframe differences between those and the third, armed machine which was based on the F-86E: So 133754 and 755 - F-86F-based with the prominent fuselage-top vent/exhaust panel: And then F-86E-based 133756 (armed), which had the flush fuselage-top and the fuselage side vents: It's also worth pointing out that the first two usually carried FJ-style drop tanks while the armed version carried F-86-style 120-gal tanks. Other differences are detailed elsewhere. Sabrejet, I have a question re the -2/3 Fury's that you may know something about. The question is regarding the introduction of the ribbed rudder and the ribbed stabs. I see the ribbed rudder as being introduced post GSB slat wing -3's. I don't have any photos of GSB slat wing -3's with the ribbed rudder. I don't have any photos contemporaneously of -2's with either the ribbed rudder or stabs. The only photo I have of a -2 with a ribbed rudder is when it was moved to the reserves. Additionally, I have no photos showing later GoW -3's with the ribbed stabs. Were they ever introduced to the active fleet aircraft? Can you offer any guidance on these questions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 7 hours ago, jpk said: Sabrejet, I have a question re the -2/3 Fury's that you may know something about. The question is regarding the introduction of the ribbed rudder and the ribbed stabs. I see the ribbed rudder as being introduced post GSB slat wing -3's. I don't have any photos of GSB slat wing -3's with the ribbed rudder. I don't have any photos contemporaneously of -2's with either the ribbed rudder or stabs. The only photo I have of a -2 with a ribbed rudder is when it was moved to the reserves. Additionally, I have no photos showing later GoW -3's with the ribbed stabs. Were they ever introduced to the active fleet aircraft? Can you offer any guidance on these questions? I think they just made it to the last VMF birds before they were retired. VMF-235 had some; and VMF-232, as the last FJ-2 USMC unit, may also have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpk Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 2:54 PM, Sabrejet said: I think they just made it to the last VMF birds before they were retired. VMF-235 had some; and VMF-232, as the last FJ-2 USMC unit, may also have. Would they not have made it to the latter navy -3/3M aircraft as well if the marine -2's got them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 Just kicking this one to the top of the pile as I see KH is ready to ship its new 1/48 FJ-2. Can't wait because the sprue shots look really nice. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloegin57 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Sabrejet said: Just kicking this one to the top of the pile as I see KH is ready to ship its new 1/48 FJ-2. Can't wait because the sprue shots look really nice. Nice punt to the top Sabrejet. Didn't the FJ-2's take part in the USN natural metal trials ?. Hope so as I am currently still in my NM/polished alum phase of modelling life. Any idea of the kit final decal sheet ?. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, sloegin57 said: Nice punt to the top Sabrejet. Didn't the FJ-2's take part in the USN natural metal trials ?. Hope so as I am currently still in my NM/polished alum phase of modelling life. Any idea of the kit final decal sheet ?. Dennis All FJ-2s started life in natural metal and most finished that way. A few of the late-service aircraft received the gull gray over white scheme and carried that into Reserve service. Then of course most NMF FJ-2s were repainted in the white/orange Reserve scheme. I do have a rundown of the kit markings, but IIRC they comprised only active duty USMC units, so no Reserves etc. EDIT: schemes as revealed a while back: they may have changed since. Edited October 26, 2019 by Sabrejet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloegin57 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Sabrejet said: All FJ-2s started life in natural metal and most finished that way. A few of the late-service aircraft received the gull gray over white scheme and carried that into Reserve service. Then of course most NMF FJ-2s were repainted in the white/orange Reserve scheme. I do have a rundown of the kit markings, but IIRC they comprised only active duty USMC units, so no Reserves etc. EDIT: schemes as revealed a while back: they may have changed since. Thanks for the prompt reply Sabrejet. I'd managed to answer my own question at the same time as you posted the above !!. A couple of those will go down very well this side of the Mac and get me back to 48th. Regards Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Sabrejet said: Just kicking this one to the top of the pile I was just saying to myself, 'what shall I build after the RF-86?' and this thread got bumped up...YES, a 1/72 Sword FJ-2! Your fault Duncan. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 Incidentally, I should qualify the above statement with, all SERVICE FJ-2s started life in natural metal. First test machines in dark gloss blue, as referred to at the beginning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene K Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 15 hours ago, Sabrejet said: Can't wait because the sprue shots look really nice. Could/would you share a link, please? Gene K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 Gene, Can't find the link, but here are the shots (not my photos): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene K Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Sabrejet said: Can't find the link, but here are the shots (not my photos): Thanks. I see KH is ready to ship its new 1/48 FJ-2 Was that info in the same link? and Was there mention of the FJ-3? Sorry for the follow on questions ... I am anxious . Gene K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 No mention of FJ-3 (though I suspect it will be released under a separate schedule), and no mention of FJ-2 availability on any of the usual dealer websites I frequent either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene K Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 6/16/2019 at 9:10 AM, Tailspin Turtle said: ... see https://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2009/10/fj-fury.html. Tommy, The link appears broken? Gene K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloegin57 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Sabrejet, where were the catapult hooks located on the XFJ-2's (looking at a Hobbycraft F-86F somewhat sideways) ? Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, sloegin57 said: Sabrejet, where were the catapult hooks located on the XFJ-2's (looking at a Hobbycraft F-86F somewhat sideways) ? Dennis Dennis, It's at the aft end of the barrier guard (circled): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldwin8 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Gene K said: Tommy, The link appears broken? Gene K Gene, if you try this, it should work http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2016/10/north-american-fj-44b-fury-notes.html and this http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2009/10/fj-fury.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Gene K said: Tommy, The link appears broken? Gene K Thanks for calling it to my attention. The problem appears to be that the link in the post includes a period at the end of it. Delete the period and it works... https://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2009/10/fj-fury.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Sabrejet said: Dennis, It's at the aft end of the barrier guard (circled): https://tailhooktopics.blogspot.com/2019/10/fj-23-catapult-hook.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tailspin Turtle said: https://tailhooktopics.blogspot.com/2019/10/fj-23-catapult-hook.html Tommy, Those views show the production one (mounted on the fwd centre wing box web), but the XFJ seems to have it as the aft part of the barrier guard. Do you have any better shots than the one with Bob Hoover (above)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene K Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Tailspin Turtle said: The problem appears to be that the link in the post includes a period at the end of it. Delete the period and it works... DUH ... I knew that I spent a great morning yesterday reviewing MANY Sabre/Fury posts by you and Sabrejet, and as always, was in awe of both of your knowledge and willingness to share. You've sure had a great positive impact on my hobby.. Thanks to both of you! Gene K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 One of the very first models I ever built, with much help from my Dad, 60 some odd years ago was a Lindbergh fury. Fell in love with the navy blue finish. Really hoping the new one from KH willbe as good as the spruce shots look. It'll need to be total crap before I don't buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Sabrejet said: Tommy, Those views show the production one (mounted on the fwd centre wing box web), but the XFJ seems to have it as the aft part of the barrier guard. Do you have any better shots than the one with Bob Hoover (above)? You probably have all the XFJ-2 pictures that I have. There’s one from the side with the pendant attached that may provide an indication of that. The FJ-2 in the picture that I posted is the one hanging from the ceiling at the National Naval Air Museum at Pensacola. It is marked as one of the XFJ-2s but isn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpk Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just a little thing. Didn't the shape of the catapult attachment hook recess change between the -2 and -3? I don't recall which way it went, rectangle to trapezoid or the other way. A very minor thing overall. It certainly would not affect my buying the kit. Over on Cybermodeler they have the FJ-3 listed as a 4Q 19 release so maybe they will both be released in sequence fairly quickly before the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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