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Wessex HC2 Crab Cabs Pt II (Fly Wessex - why on earth did I?)


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10 hours ago, keefr22 said:

I'd have thought he'd have gone for Glen Campbell and the Winch-eta linesman....

 

Or even a little something from XTC's Drums and Wires...

Who just threw Keith's coat me?

 

Nice winch work H. Well worth the attention to shape and scale given how the eye is drawn to that feature.

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Now, where were we?   oh, I remember....

 

On 3/10/2019 at 7:17 AM, Head in the clouds. said:

The winch work and frame are bang on the money Hendie,

 

On 3/10/2019 at 3:44 PM, Nigel Heath said:

That winch looks excellent.

 

On 3/10/2019 at 5:12 AM, perdu said:

Great winch/hoist Hendie, love it

 

Thanks guys but the winch just wasn't doing it for me.  The more I looked at it the more I didn't like it.  After double checking my references, I found that I had misinterpreted a few things. So,

 

Let's start at the very beginning, it's a very good place to start.  When we start we begin with.. lemme see...

 

 

So I took their advice and did just that.  Back to basics here.

 

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Styrene and brass tube and off-cuts of plastic.  Then square bits and round bits and all chopped up drastic                                      ally

Carefully fettled then glued and then pinched.  This is the way I make my new winch.

That's looking a bit better methinks.

 

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Though I did save a few parts from the original, namely the sticky-outy valve bits.

Now before anybody shouts at me.   In checking as many photo's of Wessex mounted winches, I have been amazed at the number of variations.  Originally I thought it was just the plain flat faced type (that Fly provides) and the knobbly warty kind that I am hashing up here.  However I found that even within the knobbly type there are numerous variations. 

I've seen a case that splits in half and is butt jointed. I've seen the same type of case where there is a jog in the casing and one slide slips under the other.  The valve arrangements also vary.  Sticky-outy straight ones, sticky-outy then duck down (like I've done here), sticky-outy with a taper, and others.

 

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This back face is much better - I hadn't quite caught the angles right first time around

I also managed to capture that relationship between the small lip at the bottom and the front face more accurately

 

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Now for the hydraulic piping.  This top valve arrangement is made from a piece of round tube with a square tube stuck on the end. The square tube is then drilled through to accept some small diameter stainless steel wire.

 

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To make the hydraulic unions I resorted to drilling out some Meng resin nuts and bolts and threading the wire through them

 

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Just like these which are hardly visible here

 

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I can't remember if I showed this one before, but I added the bracket which the winch frame is bolted into

 

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The last touch on the winch was to add the bolts which clamp the two halves together, along with a thin strip to represent the joint.

 

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I had just enough time left to squirt some primer on the frame and the winch.

 

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Definitely much happier with this version.  I think I caught the angles on the frame upper attachment to the fuselage much better this time around

 

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Once that's painted up it should do the job nicely.  It's still only dry fitted at the moment.

I even remembered to pre-drill the winch to accept the main hydraulic lines for when it comes time to fit it all together

 

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Here endeth what was essentially a repeat of everything I did last time around, but with an alternative ending.

There's still a few bits to add to the frame but for the most part, it's done.  I guess I'll have to attack the winch hatch panel in the trans deck door next.

 

until then...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 3/9/2019 at 10:00 PM, hendie said:

Are you ready Steve? Uh-huh
Andy? Yeah
Mick? Okay
Alright fellas, let's go!

 

dah dah DAH dum dum,  dah dah DAH dum dum  (sorry, dunno how to make the drum sounds too)

 

Anyhoos,  a quick dry fit to get my bearings...

 

Was a complete waste of time as after I had delved into the researching stuff, I found that 28 Sqn cabs carried both types of winch over the years, and photo's which appeared to be in my time frame also showed both types, though I don't remember seeing two types in service.  I don't even remember which one was in play as we rarely touched it.  However, since this is my build, my ball, my rules, I have made an executive decision and decided to go with the chunky knobbly one as it is (to me at least) visually 

 

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and from the front 'ish...

 

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Valves n wires n stuff to be added at the next session.  Trying to interpret a bunch of photo's that never seem to be pointing directly at the area of interest is rather confusing at times.

 

I may even have a go at 3D printing this one, now that I have sizes to work with.  

 

and now dear gents and ladies, I am orf to the yacht club for oysters and beer!

 

 

 

 

Hello Hendie !!

Beer and Oysters OMG !!

Oysters deserve a chilled muscadet or better some drops of Champagne !!

Very good winch indeed, you did great, Congratulations !

And Happy St Padraig to all the bloke concerned !!

Must find a Guiness for my modelling session of this evening !!

Sincerely.

CC

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1 hour ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

Brilliant.  Just brilliant.

Yes, here-here, wonderful. I cannot argue with the man, definitely better 2nd time around.

 

16 hours ago, hendie said:

I have been amazed at the number of variations.

Are there any constants in modelling? There does seem to be a very wavy line on the matter.

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7 hours ago, corsaircorp said:

Beer and Oysters OMG !!

Oysters deserve a chilled muscadet or better some drops of Champagne !!

 

CC this is Ceciltucky (as they call it) that I live in.  Think redneck country where they can't even spell IQ, and the more you can't spell it, the greater your standing in the community.

In these godforsaken backwaters this is regarded as a "craft" beer...

 

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Had I attempted to order a fine muscadet or some fizzy wine, I would no doubt have been staring down the wrong end of the second amendment just prior to being hoisted high up the nearest tree.

 

I did learn two of life's valuable lessons though...  Don't eat gazzillions of raw oysters two days before a flight. That is, assuming it wasn't the oysters casino, the oysters Rockefeller, the pizza oysters (yes pizza oysters!), the fried oysters, or the oysters Mac n cheese.  Oh, and definitely clench before you cough! 

(I have now noted those very lessons down in "Hend's book of life's lessons to live by", the very same book I always forget to read just before I go out.)

 

 

 

6 hours ago, Head in the clouds. said:

Are there any constants in modelling?

 

Yes - I just checked the winch hook and the circular handle in the kit.  Both resin parts arrived broken (along with a few other bits).  Guess what the next job is?

 

 

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Clench before you cough!

That had me thanking my lucky stars that I wore my Tena Man pants today :) 

 

Box On

 

Strickers

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Hello Hendie !!

I don't know why, but I had the feeling that you were actually living somewhere around Cambridge...

I'll save your winch making for my future SAR Seasprite build.

Sincerely.

CC

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20 hours ago, hendie said:

 

CC this is Ceciltucky (as they call it) that I live in.  Think redneck country where they can't even spell IQ, and the more you can't spell it, the greater your standing in the community.

In these godforsaken backwaters this is regarded as a "craft" beer...

 

bud-light-lime-6-12-bt.jpg

 

Had I attempted to order a fine muscadet or some fizzy wine, I would no doubt have been staring down the wrong end of the second amendment just prior to being hoisted high up the nearest tree.

 

I did learn two of life's valuable lessons though...  Don't eat gazzillions of raw oysters two days before a flight. That is, assuming it wasn't the oysters casino, the oysters Rockefeller, the pizza oysters (yes pizza oysters!), the fried oysters, or the oysters Mac n cheese.  Oh, and definitely clench before you cough! 

(I have now noted those very lessons down in "Hend's book of life's lessons to live by", the very same book I always forget to read just before I go out.)

 

 

 

 

Yes - I just checked the winch hook and the circular handle in the kit.  Both resin parts arrived broken (along with a few other bits).  Guess what the next job is?

 

 

Oh dear, if that is there idea of craft beer. next time your down my way, I'll treat you to some seriously good craft beer...

 

Fantastic work on the hoist/winch, I think you craked to look.

 

Colin

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That winch looks sensational under primer H. :worthy:

One suspects it to be capable of lifting several crates of Lime Bud at a time.

Preferably to drop them onto rocks from a height.

 

Have yesel' a bottle of:

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instead!

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Nice work Hendie. With all this talk of beer, its a good job Mrs Martian is winging her way home with supplies at this very moment.

 

Thirsty of Mars 👽

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On 3/17/2019 at 3:57 PM, hendie said:

That is, assuming it wasn't the oysters casino, the oysters Rockefeller, the pizza oysters (yes pizza oysters!), the fried oysters, or the oysters Mac n cheese.  

Just don't ever ask about Rocky mountain oysters, or Blue mountain oysters ! For the love of all sanity man dont do it !!!

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7 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

Just don't ever ask about Rocky mountain oysters, or Blue mountain oysters ! For the love of all sanity man dont do it !!!

Oh Thanks Dear Cousin !!

Now I need to know !! I'm nozy for sure...

Blue mountain oysters ???

And Blue Oyster cult ?? 

 

16 hours ago, Martian Hale said:

Nice work Hendie. With all this talk of beer, its a good job Mrs Martian is winging her way home with supplies at this very moment.

 

Thirsty of Mars 👽

Beer ?? Who said beer ??

November is nearing !!! Brexit or not, I'll bring some beers !!

 

Sincerely

CC

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