keefr22 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, hendie said: I think he's lost the entire Sea King It's probably in the same place as the 75% finished Airfix Vulcan I've, um, misplaced somewhere.... Keith 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Ho ho I finished a small black Catalina this year, do you think I have even a clue where I put it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Astonishingly after all that work, the missing part remains missing! Giorgio, I have 2 chisels; one with a square end and one round - but there are other shapes too. Master Tools model chisels; I bought them at Telford 2016, and use them all the time. They're actually made by Trumpeter, which I hadn’t realised until now. Great for all sorts of stuff; stay tuned & you’ll see more praise for them, because I’ve been using them on the Seafire 47 engine firewall today, and yet again they came up trumps. Not expensive, either. Edit: this is what they look like in their cases: Edited December 23, 2017 by Ex-FAAWAFU 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Brilliant, thanks Crisp And Merry Christmas everybody! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 Buon Natale, Giorgio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 On 12/22/2017 at 8:56 PM, hendie said: the last few weeks he's "lost" his mojo, lost half a Walrus, now he's gone and lost a wing ..... I think he's lost the entire Sea King and just too embarrassed to admit to it! And this is why, historically, Naval aircraft have had to have a seat for a Navigator. While the chaps in the pale blue are (mostly) allowed out on their own. Tsk Merry Christmas you lot. Try not to eat too much. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 44 minutes ago, Pete in Lincs said: Try not to eat too much Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm really not even trying Ciao 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Pete in Lincs said: And this is why, historically, Naval aircraft have had to have a seat for a Navigator OBSERVER! 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave22014 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Pale Blue flyers mainly fly over land, so they can follow the road signs if they get lost 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 On 22/12/2017 at 11:00 PM, perdu said: Ho ho I finished a small black Catalina this year, do you think I have even a clue where I put it? Western Approaches? Bay of Biscay? Hope it turns up. Happy Christmas Bill, and of course to you too Crisp! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) On 12/22/2017 at 8:56 PM, hendie said: I think he's lost the entire Sea King... "The report of my death has been greatly exaggerated" [Mark Twain] "And mine" HAPPY CHRISTMAS everybody! May Santa bring you many things that delight you (and probably make your other half look utterly mystified...) [Archetypal WW2 Jack Tar en route to fixing Christmas Tree to the masthead of HMS Turquoise, an ASW Trawler, Christmas 1943] Crisp x Edited December 24, 2017 by Ex-FAAWAFU 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerJ_757 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 So does the Observer not navigate? Henry the Observer just doesn’t sound right. Can just see the scene, Christopher Columbus, where are we, then, what, oh sorry, I’m just here to observe! 😂😂😂. Merry Christmas, Crisp, thank you and all the other BMers for the entertainment this year and look forward to seeing some more outstanding modelling next year! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, HomerJ_757 said: So does the Observer not navigate? Henry the Observer just doesn’t sound right. Can just see the scene, Christopher Columbus, where are we, then, what, oh sorry, I’m just here to observe! 😂😂😂. That is probably the main reason that the term Observer has persisted in the RN. Originally it was because they observed - reconnaissance & (especially) spotting for guns; even the RFC & early RAF used the word. But every ship has a person called “the Navigator” (strictly, the “Navigation Officer”); the geezer wot stops you going aground and the like. So when the RAF started using the word for aircrew, the RN didn’t follow suit, so as to avoid confusion. “Oi! Fred! Have you seen the Navigator - it’s urgent...” ”Ah, well that depends on whether you mean the ship’s Navigator or the bloke who sits in the left hand seat of the Lynx; be precise, man!” ...crunch... ”Too late...” 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Did you all see that picture of young Crisp climbing the mast with his Chrissmass tree You haven't changed a bit Crisp mate 😱 I wish you all a fabulous Christmas 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley John Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: “Oi! Fred! Have you seen the Navigator - it’s urgent...” ”Ah, well that depends on whether you mean the ship’s Navigator or the bloke who sits in the left hand seat of the Lynx; be precise, man!” ...crunch... ”Too late...” A certain Sub-Lieutenant Phillips' late of HMS Troutbridge springs to mind!..... "Left hand down a bit"..... Merry Christmas Crisp and the rest of the crew! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: "The report of my death has been greatly exaggerated" [Mark Twain] No sign of my Vulcan I suppose....? Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda everybody! Keith 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairystick Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 On 12/24/2017 at 5:42 AM, Ex-FAAWAFU said: But every ship has a person called “the Navigator” (strictly, the “Navigation Officer”); the geezer wot stops you going aground and the like. It was common Naval terminology to say "the never-guesser". Something to do with statements on the bridge, along the lines of "you'll never guess where we are now Sir!"... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 The chisles look the biz Crisp, I might look for something similar. I use a couple of bone chisles aobainted from a mate at the Jo'burg club who repped for a sergical company and a 3mm motice chisle but that is a bit clunky. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 Back to work on the Fang. Gradually getting the geometry of the undercarriage to look a bit more realistic: And fairing Trumpeter roots into the Barracudacast resin tails - elevators and rudder dry fitted, but the whole ensemble is a considerable improvement on the rather lifeless original: Still have to add a small section at the bottom of the rudder, above the tail hook assembly. More soon Crisp 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 16 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: the whole ensemble is a considerable improvement on the rather lifeless original: Agreed, even at pre-painting stage Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 cracking work Crisp, did any of the reference material come in handy? Be interesting to know how the kit shape measures up to the Seafang drawings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Crisp, I'm sure it's a perspective thing (or my eyes are wonky) but that tail plane looks enormous compared to the main wing Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Courageous said: Crisp, I'm sure it's a perspective thing (or my eyes are wonky) but that tail plane looks enormous compared to the main wing Stuart I think there is a meme thingy referring to a certain Irish TV priest "This is small..." LOL but you are right and when you're right, you're right 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) It is indeed a perspective thing - plus, I suspect, the fact that the Spitfire wing shape is so completely ingrained in us all that any deviation from it looks odd; clipped wings, extended high altitude pointy things, the late slightly more angular wing... all instantly register in our subconscious as "SPIT" without a moment's delay. This, however,r is NOT that wing, but it has exactly the same tail as (e.g.) the FR46, so the wing 'ought' to be the same.. It isn't. But it is the right size. Tail now glued. I have also nearly completed detailing the undercarriage bays. Here is one of them, and you will immediately be able to spot a problem: Yes, not entirely to my surprise the re-worked undercarriage leg has proved not to be strong enough. It was worth a try as was, but I have a Plan B which involves drilling and pinning - watch this space. Actually the lack of wheel makes fitting the legs, retraction jacks, etc slightly easier. Nothing that dangles lower than the lower skin of the wing is glued here. The Port bay has everything seen here except the copper wire elements. The flattened brass thing angling into the wheel area of the bay is a catapult spool; I am not 100% sure that this is where the spools were on the 'Fang, but it is definitely where the Attacker had them, so I have done some extrapolation! Edit: here is an additional picture showing the catapult spool. They were fitted on a vertical hinge, so could swing down below the wing when needed for a catapult strop, but sat out of the way in the wheel bay the rest of the time. More soon Crisp Edited December 28, 2017 by Ex-FAAWAFU 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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