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harveyb258

Fiat 806gp full-scratchbuild 1:12

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There's no scratchbuilding  I know  that can make this face any better lookin' :tooth:

 

Thank you for your kind words,  Olivier!!

 

Cheers, H

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dear Harvey 

 

 

 

do you solder white metal like you would brass ?

different temperature ?

 

many thanks !

Sam

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Harvey, I have to pretend your model isn't on this site because it makes me very aware that my scratch building skills are sadly amateurish! 😂   This is just top level model engineering that, if I had enough time, I might aspire towards but ... I turned 80 last week so it ain't gonna happen!

 

Anyway, keep up the impressive work.

 

Frank

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10 hours ago, sharknose156 said:

do you solder white metal like you would brass ?

 

Yes, Sam. I use a 70degree solder and soldering iron that is set to approx. 100deg.

Hope that helps.

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17 hours ago, albergman said:

it makes me very aware that my scratch building skills are sadly amateurish! 

 

Thank you for your very kind comments, Frank...very much appreciated, matey!

 

I have to disagree with your (above) comment, though!! You know wood, inside and out by grain and feel (much like myself) and have shown some beautiful work to us all...I thank you for sharing. If that's not scratch-work, then I don't know what is. Working difficult hardwoods is a skill and a knowledge that takes a long time to master(and you have), so don't ever put your work down. Your work always puts a smile on my face!:D

 

Cheers, H

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3 hours ago, harveyb258 said:

 

Thank you for your very kind comments, Frank...very much appreciated, matey!

 

I have to disagree with your (above) comment, though!! You know wood, inside and out by grain and feel (much like myself) and have shown some beautiful work to us all...I thank you for sharing. If that's not scratch-work, then I don't know what is. Working difficult hardwoods is a skill and a knowledge that takes a long time to master(and you have), so don't ever put your work down. Your work always puts a smile on my face!:D

 

Cheers, H

Thanks for that Harvey ... you are too kind.

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On 10/08/2018 at 22:01, harveyb258 said:

 

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I'm late to the party as always.

 

You look like you are beginning to get the hang of this modelling lark!

 

Even having spent all the time I have on the virtual model, these views make it really come to life. For instance In this shot, the fact the radiator may have had two pipes makes sense but it must have wrapped round the cross member (which I have not drawn yet because it was not important!). If this was the case, it must have been a right pain to install the tank in the car. They would have had to put the tank in from the top and then bolted the radiator in from the bottom. Taking it out would have been worse. There would have been oil everywhere. I bet the mechanics loved the designer of that!

 

Looking great as always. Keep up the good work.

 

Frank - you undersell you skills, sir - I have enjoyed all your build threads, marvelling at the apparent ease with which shapes emerge from wood or metal. For my money you can stand shoulder to shoulder with the other work here.

 

ATB all

 

Nick

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4 hours ago, NickD said:

. If this was the case, it must have been a right pain to install the tank in the car.

 

Quite a few expletives were uttered during this installation, dear Nick.....so yes, they must have had a total 'mare!!!:D 

Both my tanks are now firmly bolted in place and am now working on the oil-lines. I thought I had it all planned out, but, there's very little available space for anything once you start to fabricate each section, hence the delay in drawing anything.

 

 

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Good afternoon chaps.

 

After much faffing about, I finally have an update to share with you all.

 

Firstly, the hanging pipe-

 

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I made this from 1,5mm steel rod and the plug from brass.

I would assume this is the cold feed, as it is hanging in the wind, for that final blast of cooling air on it's journey to the engine. The bit in the middle,  as per our photo 10, I interpret to be a drain-plug (it would make sense, being at the lowest point of the oil circuit). 

 

Over to the other side-

 

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- and we have the return and it's breather pipe. Some very old rubber tubing, found behind the junk drawer, took care of the hose material ( much more flexible than shrink tubing, too, allowing you to achieve a very natural drape). A pair of ali brackets and M0,6mm bolts keeps everything in it's place.

 

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The hose with the banjo bolt is the expansion line to the header and feeds to the bottom......

 

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...as seen above on the left. To the right is my return, which would probably be activated by the lever atop the tank.

 

Over on the opposite chassis leg, we have an oil filter-

 

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-and from the left: engine out, breather, then return to tank. All brass fittings are turned by hand. It can be mounted above, on the engine bracket, if there's any interference with the pedal-box.

 

Now, a few more pics-

 

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Obviously, none of the above can in any way be stated as fact, but for me, it's just a simple and logical routing of the pipework. So, unless any HARD proof otherwise is  suddenly presented to us, it's staying the way it is!!:tease:

 

I hope you enjoy and thanks for watching, chaps.

 

Cheers, H

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Harvey

 

It looks good to me though I am not sure any of us would argue with you. Love the oil filter.

 

One thing that has struck me from the photos is just how neat Fiat were with the routing of wires and pipes. I think they would have been happy with your solutions.


Regards

 

Nick

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It looks like a plausible solution to me . Very well done !   Hannes

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Many thanks chaps!

 

5 hours ago, NickD said:

just how neat Fiat were with the routing of wires and pipes. I think they would have been happy with your solutions.

 

All they need, now, for that final touch of authenticity is lashings of asbestos tape...especially close to the red-hot engine. Surgical tape cut into 2mm strips will be perfect for this; especially after some oily weathering!:thumbsup:

 

Cheers, H

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Your building of this model is like writing a history book specifically for this car. We can't know if every tiny detail is correct but surely 90% of it must be and the remaining 10% might be as well. 

 

Your thread is a source of leisurely entertainment and awe for any petrolhead, lover of vintage racers and/or scale modelling enthusiast. 

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Many thanks, kind Sir!!:D

 

Cheers, H

 

I have  made a start on the gear-box, btw, so should have an update later this afternoon.

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Forgot summat!

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Hi chaps!

 

Slightly later than anticipated (due to computer tantrums lol), I bring you a short pictorial birth of the gearbox.....:D

 

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Still quite a way to go, yet, but it's firm foundation for continuation in the morning!!

 

With that, I bid you all a goodnight.

 

Cheers, H:sleeping:

 

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A very fine work , dear Harvey ! I look forward to see  the continuation !  Well done !   Hannes

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