Codger Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 PLEASE don't paint this thing......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavor Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just Spectacular. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveyb258 Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 Thanks gents. Â A bit more progress on the body.... Â Â Â Â Â Â Thanks for watching, I hope you enjoy. Â Cheers, H 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROPELLER Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 For sure, we enjoy... Stellar work, congrats! Â Dan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totally Mad Olivier Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, PROPELLER said: For sure, we enjoy... Stellar work, congrats!  Dan. + 1, for sure...  Cheers  Olivier  P.S: and I agree with JeroenS, photos on the previous post in BW amazingly beautiful and promising... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Hi Harvey,  Really enjoyed your recent posts.   This is taking the mick. You have not used any form of computer at all. There's no way this should work. There should be laws about exhibiting this amount of skill in a built up area. On 10/07/2019 at 09:16, harveyb258 said:   Who'd have guessed they used an enormous spoon to shape the headrest On 16/07/2019 at 20:08, harveyb258 said:  LoL! On 16/07/2019 at 20:08, harveyb258 said:  Just Fab  Like the posts from today too. Looks convincing to my eye. Not that I suspect you need my endorsement.  Great effort.  All the best Nick  PS Feel stingy about only being able to give one like per post. Edited July 17, 2019 by NickD Forgot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannes Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 50 years ago I was watching the first men on the moon . It´s a pleasure to see another giant leap in another scale after half of a century . This car is an icon of our common European culture and I hope this culture will prevail even it´s in great jeopardy right now . Very well done , dear Harvey ! Hannes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveyb258 Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Many thanks, chaps. 11 hours ago, NickD said: This is taking the mick.  11 hours ago, NickD said: Who'd have guessed they used an enormous spoon to shape the headrest I guess giants really DID exist...lol.  That's what I love about what I do...you can spend a LOT of money on special tools ( doming/dapping etc) to create whatever piece you're working on, when It's not really necessary....the home is already full of goodies for use in different applications. The hard part is finding them...  Cheers, H Edited July 18, 2019 by harveyb258 Forgot summat! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROPELLER Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Â 2 hours ago, harveyb258 said: That's what I love about what I do...you can spend a LOT of money on special tools ( doming/dapping etc) to create whatever piece you're working on, when It's not really necessary....the home is already full of goodies for use in different applications. The hard part is finding them... Â I agree ! But to my eyes, the hardest thing is to find the good method. Â After that, time and sweat... Dan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, harveyb258 said: That's what I love about what I do...you can spend a LOT of money on special tools ( doming/dapping etc) to create whatever piece you're working on, when It's not really necessary....the home is already full of goodies for use in different applications. The hard part is finding them... Â Cheers, H You have demonstrated genius at doing that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Codger said: You have demonstrated genius at doing that. Yep 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveyb258 Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Codger said: You have demonstrated genius at doing that. A life-time of working on site with no materials and limited electricity, and/or availability of any necessary tooling, has created my inner genius(????) /madness, tbh  I suppose I'm "old-skool"......I'll always find a way.  4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveyb258 Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 Hello everybody. Â After what seemed like an eternity of beating, stamping, fitting and fettling, I can now show you some more progress on my beloved Fiat. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â The tip of the tail split open upon 1st trial fit...confirming what I already expected (not enough taper on the rear of the fuel tank), so I left the tip open until yesterday. As you can see, it won't quite fit, so I now need to remove the tank and modify it slightly... Â Â So, that's where things stand at the moment. Â Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy. More soon. Â Cheers, H Â 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy vd M. Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Good stuff Harvey, nice hammering! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 It pains me to see you must remedy the miscalculation Harvey, but I feel that beautiful tail cone must be preserved. The shape and louvers - just perfect. Hopefully, a bit of solder to close the split is all that's needed. The tank is more involved. But I would grit my teeth and attack it with an eye toward the greater good the result will bring. Once again I must rave about how the rawness of the materials imparts such an old-world museum, hand made quality to this. Really 'Industrial Revolution' look. Far beyond mere model building. This is a metal sculpture and I love it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totally Mad Olivier Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Hi Harvey! Watching your pics recalls me so many things... Thanks and keep up the great job!  Cheers, O 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larchiefeng Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Great work Harvey! I’m also in the Codger camp on the way it’s looking. The whole hand hammered 30’s look evokes just how the real car must have looked. Nothing was perfect back in the day and it looks all the more realistic for it! 🤔 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Harvey,  Beautiful as always. Very excellent hammering indeed.  Fellow Fiat Fans,  In case you had not spotted it, this week's Autosport carries the following wonderful picture of the great man on a busy day at the office. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/photos/pietro-bordino-fiat-804-pitstop/41908394/ Certainly worth another look. Though the date should be 1922 not 1918.  A weathering opportunity extraordinaire -after scratchbuilding the car of course.  Last weekend's German GP was pretty eventful but the drivers clearly have it easy compared to Bordino's generation (and so many of those that followed).  In the race above, 3 Fiats started. All apparently had a rear axle fault. Biagio Nazarro lost control of the car when a rear wheel came off and was killed. Bordino had a similar failure but safely stopped the car. Felice Nazarro won. 2 weeks later Bordino won and Nazarro came second in Italy.  Having watched GPs most of my life, I still cannot understand how individuals can risk so much (which is why I sit and watch).  I am sure at least some of our current GP stars would have been up for the challenge. However, I am grateful that, mostly, they are protected enough that they can exhibit their supreme skills week in week out.  For me the fascination with the 806 is partly about understanding the lost engineering and partly about commemorating a time when superheros drove vehicles that were marginal even in the dry and must have been terrifying in the wet.  Thanks in advance for your indulgence for this little diversion.  Regards  Nick PS Autosport's coverage of the German GP is also excellent!  3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveyb258 Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 Many thanks, chaps.  4 hours ago, Roy vd M. said: nice hammering! It was!!! I found it very relaxing and therapeutic, slowly teasing a sheet of ali to shape. Hand forming the louvres was a bit intense, though...knowing that the slightest slip or error would mean a new tail-end. Phew!!!  4 hours ago, Codger said: It pains me to see you must remedy the miscalculation Harvey, That's the nature-of-the-beast, unfortunately, Chas  4 hours ago, Codger said: But I would grit my teeth and attack it with …..a big hammer????  3 hours ago, Olivier de St Raph said: pics recalls me so many things... Your build seems so long ago...good memories.  1 hour ago, larchiefeng said: I’m also in the Codger camp on the way it’s looking. The whole hand hammered 30’s look evokes just how the real car must have looked I'm glad you share my vision, sir.  Cheers, H 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveyb258 Posted August 2, 2019 Author Share Posted August 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, NickD said: Beautiful as always Many thanks Nick.  29 minutes ago, NickD said: A weathering opportunity extraordinaire -after scratchbuilding the car of course. It is indeed, mate...what a great pic from yesteryear. Thanks for sharing that.  Cheers, H 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannes Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 A great , realistic reconstruction ! Bravo ! Maybe my old hawkeyes can help to improve just one not completely correct line : It´s the edge between the two farings on the right side . In my opinion this line of the bodywork should be less arched and more straight in the central part . Look at our photos and maybe at my own elaboration . There should be a relatively sharp turn in the region of the seat fairing into the upward direction imho or else the seat won´t fit .The seat is slightly slanted and you should make a cardboard pattern of it´s backside for adaption works I hope my remarks will help to improve your otherwise perfect and impressive bodywork . ATB , your friend Hannes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveyb258 Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Hannes said: old hawkeyes can help to improve just one not completely correct line  You are indeed, most correct , Sir. Thank you for pointing it out. After all the thousands of hours, staring at the pics...how the heck did I not notice???? Not to worry, though... I'll just make a new front section because it will be quicker and easier than messing about trying to correct it. I could use the old one (practice-piece???) for the 451 scuttle....  Cheers, H   1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveyb258 Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 Hello chaps. Â Time again for another update, methinks. Â The fuel tank needed to go on a diet, so, after the removal of the upper skin, I cut away the majority of the (filler) core...just leaving the arched section covered to act as a kind of heat sink for later soldering duties. After a bit of file work to re-profile the rear end, it was time to bash some steel. To be correct...0,3mm tin-plate steel. Although, after several rounds of HOT forging, then filing/sanding etc, I would be very surprised if any plate still remained. Â After a lot of fun, I present a sleeker tank... Â Â I was a bit unhappy with the pipe connections underneath and wanted to create a bit of a well, so the search was on for a suitable jig and some sort of punch. I quickly found an old slotted angle bracket that was perfect for my needs. Sat right next to it was a masonry nail that had my name written all over it (well, through it, really) as the punch. Â Â Â Â Â A bit more banding added... Â Â Â Â I think it looks like a piece of medieval armour.... Â More soon, lads. Â Cheers, H 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy vd M. Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 It does Harvey, but it also looks like you're as close as can be to the car you're bringing back to life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Delicious - wonderful rework. It looks like armor because you are indeed the 'master blacksmith' I labeled you ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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